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Every walk-off in MLB postseason history

2020.09.19 06:13 displacedindavis Every walk-off in MLB postseason history

REQUEST: I do ask that you please try not to overwhelm the comments section with Cheatstros/Asterisks posts. Yes, that happened, it was terrible, but let's try and focus on the bigger picture here as well.
The walk-off is an iconic tradition that makes baseball truly special compared to other sports. When it happens in the postseason, it's even more epic (provided, of course, you didn't root for the team that lost the game).
It's just a win, right? Well, there's a strange psychological effect associated with walk-offs. It requires a ton of effort just to make a walk-off scenario possible. It means you played the other team close. It's fun to keep up with the other team but also frustrating to watch the other team keep up with you all the way down to the end. Maybe your team had a miraculous late surge. Or maybe you're trying to negate the other team's late miraculous surge. At this point, for all the work you've put in, all the joy and/or heartbreak you've experienced, the only acceptable outcome is a win. And boy, does it feel good to get it.
And you can multiply this sentiment in the postseason because every game counts. A long, exhaustive list of postseason walk-offs to follow. Relive the joy...or pain...or both.

Year Game Info (Winning and Losing Team, Score, Series and Game #) Walk-off Info (player, type of hit/play, misc)
2019 STL 5 ATL 4 (11), NLDS Game 4 Yadier Molina sac fly
2019 HOU 3 NYY 2 (11), ALCS Game 2 Carlos Correa solo HR
2019 HOU 6 NYY 4, ALCS Game 6 Jose Altuve 2-run HR wins series
2018 MIL 3 COL 2 (10), NLDS Game 1 Mike Moustakas 1-run single
2018 LAD 2 MIL 1 (13), NLCS Game 4 Cody Bellinger 1-run single
2018 LAD 3 BOS 2 (18), WS Game 3 Max Muncy solo HR wins the longest playoff game ever
2017 CLE 9 NYY 8 (13), ALDS Game 2 Yan Gomes 1-run single caps off an 8-3 comeback
2017 HOU 2 NYY 1, ALCS Game 2 Carlos Correa 1-run double
2017 LAD 4 CHC 1, NLCS Game 2 Justin Turner 3-run HR
2017 HOU 13 LAD 12 (10), WS Game 5 Alex Bregman 1-run single wins the joint-highest scoring WS game and caps off a multi-comeback effort
2016 TOR 5 BAL 2 (11), ALWC Edwin Encarnacion 3-run HR
2016 TOR 7 TEX 6 (10), ALDS Game 3 Rougned Odor throwing error allows 1-run, challenge unsuccessful
2016 SFG 6 CHC 5 (13), NLDS Game 3 Joe Panik 1-run double
2015 KCR 5 NYM 4 (14), WS Game 1 Eric Hosmer sac fly caps off a 4-3 comeback in the 9th
2014 KCR 9 OAK 8 (12), ALWC Salvador Perez 1-run single caps off a 7-3 comeback overall, a 7-6 comeback in he 9th, and an 8-7 comeback in the 12th
2014 STL 5 SFG 4, NLCS Game 2 Kolton Wong solo HR
2014 SFG 5 STL 4 (10), NLCS Game 3 Randy Choate throwing error scores 1 run
2014 SFG 6 STL 3, NLCS Game 5 Travis Ishikawa 3-run HR wins series
2013 TBR 5 BOS 4, ALDS Game 3 Jose Lobaton solo HR
2013 OAK 1 DET 0, ALDS Game 2 Stephen Vogt 1-run single
2013 BOS 6 DET 5, ALCS Game 2 Jarrod Saltalamacchia 1-run single caps off late 5-2 comeback
2013 STL 3 LAD 2 (13), NLCS Game 1 Carlos Beltran 1-run single
2013 STL 5 BOS 4, WS Game 3 Will Middlebrooks obstruction scores 1 run
2012 NYY 3 BAL 2 (12), ALDS Game 3 Raul Ibanez solo HR caps off a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
2012 DET 5 OAK 4, ALDS Game 2 Don Kelly sac fly
2012 OAK 4 DET 3, ALDS Game 4 Coco Crisp 1-run single caps off a 3-1 comeback in the 9th and brings the A's back from a 2-0 series deficit
2012 WAS 2 STL 1, NLDS Game 4 Jayson Werth solo HR
2011 MIL 3 ARI 2 (10), NLDS Game 5 Nyjer Morgan 1-run single wins series
2011 TEX 7 DET 3 (11), ALCS Game 2 Nelson Cruz grand slam is the first recorded instance to walk off a playoff game
2011 STL 10 TEX 9 (11), WS Game 6 David Freese solo HR caps off a 7-4 comeback late, including a 7-5 comeback in the 9th, and a 9-7 comeback in the 10th
2010 SFG 6 PHI 5, NLCS Game 4 Juan Uribe sac fly
2009 MIN 6 DET 5 (12), AL Central Tiebreak* Alexi Casilla 1-run single caps off 5-4 comeback in the 10th
2009 NYY 4 MIN 3 (11), ALDS Game 2 Mark Teixeira solo HR caps off a 3-1 comeback in the 9th
2009 LAD 3 STL 2, NLDS Game 2 Mark Loretta 1-run single caps off 2-1 comeback in the 9th
2009 NYY 4 LAA 3 (13), ALCS Game 2 Maicer Izturis throwing error scores 1 run and caps off a 3-2 comeback in the 11th
2009 LAA 5 NYY 4 (11), ALCS Game 3 Jeff Mathis 1-run double
2009 PHI 5 LAD 4, NLCS Game 4 Jimmy Rollins 2-run double caps off a 4-3 comeback in the 9th
2008 BOS 3 LAA 2, ALDS Game 4 Jed Lowrie 1-run single wins series
2008 TBR 9 BOS 8 (11), ALCS Game 2 BJ Upton sac fly
2008 BOS 8 TBR 7, ALCS Game 5 JD Drew 1-run single caps off a 7-0 comeback
2008 PHI 5 TBR 4, WS Game 3 Carlos Ruiz 1-run infield single is the first ever to walk off a playoff game
2007 COL 9 SDP 8 (13), NLWC Tiebreak* Jamey Carroll sac fly caps off an 8-6 comeback in the 13th
2007 BOS 6 LAA 3, ALDS Game 2 Manny Ramirez 3-run HR
2007 CLE 2 NYY 1 (11), ALDS Game 2 Travis Hafner 1-run single
2006 DET 6 OAK 3, ALCS Game 4 Magglio Ordonez 3-run HR wins series and caps off a 3-0 comeback
2005 HOU 7 ATL 6 (18), ALDS Game 4 Chris Burke solo HR wins series and caps off a 5-0 comeback, also winning the longest playoff game at the time
2005 CWS 2 LAA 1, ALCS Game 2 Joe Crede 1-run double
2005 CWS 7 HOU 6, WS Game 2 Scott Podsednik solo HR
2004 NYY 7 MIN 6 (12), ALDS Game 2 Hideki Matsui sac fly caps off a 6-5 comeback in the 12th
2004 BOS 8 LAA 6 (10), ALDS Game 3 David Ortiz 2-run HR wins series
2004 ATL 4 HOU 2 (11), NLDS Game 2 Rafael Furcal 2-run HR
2004 BOS 6 NYY 4 (12), ALCS Game 4 David Ortiz 2-run HR makes him the first MLB player with 2 walk-off HRs in the same postseason and caps off a 4-3 comeback in the 9th
2004 BOS 5 NYY 4 (14), ALCS Game 5 David Ortiz 1-run single
2004 HOU 3 STL 0, NLCS Game 5 Jeff Kent 3-run HR
2004 STL 6 HOU 4 (12), NLCS Game 6 Jim Edmonds 2-run HR
2003 OAK 5 BOS 4 (12), ALDS Game 1 Ramon Hernandez bunt single caps off a 4-3 comeback in the 9th
2003 BOS 3 OAK 1 (11), ALDS Game 3 Trot Nixon 2-run HR
2003 FLA 4 SFG 3 (11), NLDS Game 3 Ivan Rodriguez 2-run single caps off a 3-2 comeback in the 11th
2003 NYY 6 BOS 5 (11), ALCS Game 7 Aaron Boone solo HR wins series and caps off a late 5-2 comeback
2003 FLA 4 NYY 3 (12), WS Game 4 Alex Gonzalez solo HR
2002 SFG 2 STL 1, NLCS Game 5 Kenny Lofton 1-run single wins series
2001 ARI 2 STL 1, NLDS Game 5 Tony Womack 1-run single wins series which is a first for the D-Backs
2001 NYY 3 SEA 1, ALCS Game 4 Alfonso Soriano 2-run HR
2001 NYY 4 ARI 3 (10), WS Game 4 Derek Jeter solo HR caps off a 3-1 comeback in the 9th
2001 NYY 3 ARI 2 (12), WS Game 5 Alfonso Soriano 1-run single caps off a 2-0 comeback in the 9th
2001 ARI 3 NYY 2, WS Game 7 Luis Gonzalez 1-run single wins series and caps off a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
2000 SEA 2 CWS 1, ALDS Game 3 Carlos Guillen bunt single wins series
2000 NYM 3 SFG 2 (13), NLDS Game 3 Benny Agbayani solo HR
2000 NYY 4 NYM 3 (12), WS Game 1 Jose Vizcaino 1-run single
1999 CLE 3 BOS 2, ALDS Game 1 Travis Fryman 1-run single
1999 NYM 4 ARI 3 (10), NLDS Game 4 Todd Pratt solo HR wins series
1999 NYY 4 BOS 3 (10), ALCS Game 1 Bernie Williams solo HR
1999 NYM 5 ATL 4 (15), NLCS Game 5 Robin Ventura 1-run single (technically a grand slam, but only 1 run crossed home)
1999 ATL 10 NYM 9 (11), NLCS Game 6 Andruw Jones walk wins series
1999 NYY 6 ATL 5 (10), WS Game 3 Chad Curtis solo HR
1998 ATL 2 CHC 1 (10), NLDS Game 2 Chipper Jones 1-run single
1998 HOU 5 SDP 4, NLDS Game 2 Bill Spiers 1-run single
1997 CLE 5 NYY 4, ALDS Game 4 Omar Vizquel 1-run single
1997 FLA 2 SFG 1, NLDS Game 1 Edgar Renteria 1-run single
1997 FLA 7 SFG 6, NLDS Game 2 Moises Alou 1-run single
1997 CLE 2 BAL 1, ALCS Game 3 Marquis Grissom steals home
1997 CLE 8 BAL 7, ALCS Game 4 Sandy Alomar 1-run single
1997 FLA 3 CLE 2 (11), WS Game 7 Edgar Renteria 1-run single wins series and caps a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
1996 NYY 5 TEX 4 (12), ALDS Game 2 Dean Palmer throwing error scores 1 run
1996 NYY 5 BAL 4 (11), ALCS Game 1 Bernie Williams solo HR
1995 CLE 5 BOS 4 (13), ALDS Game 1 Tony Pena solo HR caps off a 4-3 comeback in the 11th
1995 NYY 7 SEA 5 (15), ALDS Game 2 Jim Leyritz 2-run HR
1995 SEA 6 NYY 5 (11), ALDS Game 5 Edgar Martinez 2-run double wins series and caps off a 5-4 comeback in the 11th
1995 CLE 7 ATL 6 (11), WS Game 3 Eddie Murray 1-run single
1993 PHI 4 ATL 3 (10), NLCS Game 1 Kim Batiste 1-run double
1993 TOR 8 PHI 6, WS Game 6 Joe Carter 3-run HR wins series and caps off a 6-5 comeback in the 9th, it is also the last walk-off HR in the playoffs when trailing to date
1992 ATL 3 PIT 2, NLCS Game 7 Francisco Cabrera 2-run single wins series and caps off a 2-0 comeback in the 9th
1992 TOR 3 ATL 2, WS Game 3 Candy Maldonado 1-run single
1991 ATL 5 MIN 4 (12), WS Game 3 Mark Lemke 1-run single
1991 ATL 3 MIN 2 (11), WS Game 4 Jerry Willard sac fly
1991 MIN 4 ATL 3 (11), WS Game 6 Kirby Puckett solo HR
1991 MIN 1 ATL 0 (10), WS Game 7 Gene Larkin 1-run single to win series
1990 CIN 5 OAK 4 (10), WS Game 2 Joe Oliver 1-run single
1988 LAD 5 OAK 4, WS Game 1 Kirk Gibson 2-run HR to cap off a 4-3 comeback in the 9th
1988 OAK 2 LAD 1, WS Game 3 Mark McGwire solo HR
1986 CAL 4 BOS 3, ALCS Game 4 Bobby Grich 1-run single
1986 NYM 6 HOU 5, NLCS Game 3 Lenny Dykstra 2-run HR to cap off a 5-4 comeback in the 9th
1986 NYM 2 HOU 1 (12), NLCS Game 5 Gary Carter 1-run single
1986 NYM 6 BOS 5 (10), WS Game 6 Bill Buckner error scores 1 run to cap off a 5-3 comeback in the 10th
1985 TOR 6 KCR 5 (10), ALCS Game 2 Al Oliver 1-run single to cap off a 5-4 comeback in the 10th
1985 STL 3 LAD 2, NLCS Game 5 Ozzie Smith solo HR
1985 KCR 2 STL 1, WS Game 6 Dane Iorg 2-run single to cap off a 1-0 comeback in the 9th
1984 SDP 7 CHC 5, NLCS Game 4 Steve Garvey 2-run HR to bring the Padres back from a 2-0 series deficit
1982 STL 4 ATL 3, NLCS Game 2 Ken Oberkfell 1-run single
1981 HOU 3 LAD 1, NLDS Game 1 Alan Ashby 2-run HR
1981 HOU 1 LAD 0 (11), NLDS Game 2 Denny Walling 1-run single
1981 PHI 6 MTL 5 (10), NLDS Game 4 George Vukovich solo HR to bring the Phillies back from a 2-0 series deficit
1980 HOU 1 PHI 0 (11), NLCS Game 3 Denny Walling sac fly
1980 KCR 4 PHI 3 (10), WS Game 3 Willie Aikens 1-run single
1979 BAL 6 CAL 3 (10), ALCS Game 1 John Lowenstein 3-run HR
1979 CAL 4 BAL 3, ALCS Game 3 Larry Harlow 1-run double to cap off a 3-2 comeback in the 9th
1978 LAD 4 PHI 3 (10), NLCS Game 4 Bill Russell 1-run single
1978 NYY 4 LAD 3 (10), WS Game 4 Lou Piniella 1-run single to cap off a 3-0 comeback
1977 NYY 4 LAD 3 (12), WS Game 1 Paul Blair 1-run single
1976 NYY 7 KCR 6, ALCS Game 5 Chris Chambliss solo HR wins series
1976 CIN 7 PHI 6, NLCS Game 3 Ken Griffey Sr 1-run single caps off a 6-4 comeback in the 9th
1976 CIN 4 NYY 3, WS Game 2 Tony Perez 1-run single
1975 CIN 6 BOS 5, WS Game 3 Joe Morgan 1-run single
1975 BOS 7 CIN 6 (12), WS Game 6 Carlton Fisk solo HR to cap off a late 6-3 comeback
1973 OAK 2 BAL 1 (11), ALCS Game 3 Bert Campaneris solo HR
1973 CIN 2 NYM 1, NLCS Game 1 Johnny Bench solo HR
1972 OAK 3 DET 2 (11), ALCS Game 1 Al Kaline throwing error scores winning run on top of a Gonzalo Marquez 1-run single to cap off a 2-1 comeback in the 11th
1972 DET 4 OAK 3 (10), ALCS Game 4 Jim Northrup 1-run single to cap off a 3-1 comeback in the 11th and bring the Tigers back from a 2-0 series deficit
1972 CIN 4 PIT 3, NLCS Game 5 Bob Moose wild pitch scores winning run to win series (for the Reds) and cap off a 3-2 comeback in the 9th
1972 OAK 3 CIN 2, WS Game 4 Angel Mangual 1-run single to cap off a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
1971 BAL 3 PIT 2 (10), WS Game 6 Brooks Robinson sac fly
1969 BAL 4 MIN 3 (12), ALCS Game 1 Paul Blair bunt single to cap off a 3-2 comeback in the 9th
1969 BAL 1 MIN 0 (11), ALCS Game 2 Curt Motton 1-run single
1969 NYM 2 BAL 1 (10), WS Game 4 Pete Richert throwing error scores 1 run
1964 NYY 2 STL 1, WS Game 3 Mickey Mantle solo HR
1962 LAD 8 SFG 7, NL tiebreak Game 2* Ron Fairly sac fly caps off a 5-0 comeback
1960 PIT 10 NYY 9, WS Game 7 Bill Mazeroski solo HR to win series and claim the only walk-off HR to date in a WS Game 7
1959 LAD 6 MIL 5 (12), NL tiebreak Game 2* Felix Mantilla throwing error on top of Carl Farillo single scores 1, wins series and caps off a 5-2 comeback in the 9th
1958 MIL 8 NYY 7 (10), WS Game 1 Bill Bruton 1-run single
1957 MIL 7 NYY 5 (10), WS Game 4 Eddie Mathews 2-run HR to cap off a 5-4 comeback in the 10th
1956 BRO 1 NYY 0 (10), WS Game 6 Jackie Robinson 1-run single
1954 NYG 5 CLE 2 (10), WS Game 1 Dusty Rhodes 3-run HR
1953 NYY 4 BRO 3, WS Game 6 Billy Martin 1-run single wins series
1951 NYG 5 BRO 4, NL tiebreak Game 3* Bobby Thompson 3-run HR wins series and caps off a 4-1 comeback in the 9th
1950 NYY 3 PHI 2, WS Game 3 Jerry Coleman 1-run single
1949 NYY 1 BRO 0, WS Game 1 Tommy Henrich solo HR to earn the first walk-off HR in WS history
1947 BRO 3 NYY 2, WS Game 4 Cookie Lavagetto 2-run double to cap off a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
1945 CHC 8 DET 7 (12), WS Game 6 Stan Hack 1-run double
1944 STL 3 SLB 2 (11), WS Game 2 Ken O'Dea 1-run single
1939 NYY 2 CIN 1, WS Game 1 Bill Dickey 1-run single
1935 DET 4 CHC 3, WS Game 6 Goose Goslin 1-run single wins series
1934 DET 3 STL 2 (12), WS Game 2 Goose Goslin 1-run single
1929 PHA 3 CHC 2, WS Game 5 Bing Miller 1-run double wins series and caps off a 2-0 comeback in the 9th
1927 NYY 4 PIT 3, WS Game 4 Johnny Miljus wild pitch scores 1 run and wins series (for the Yankees)
1924 WAS 4 NYG 3, WS Game 2 Roger Peckinpaugh 1-run double
1924 WAS 4 NYG 3 (12), WS Game 7 Fred Lindstrom 1-run double wins series
1916 BOS 2 BRO 1 (14), WS Game 2 Del Gainer 1-run single
1915 BOS 2 PHI 1, WS Game 3 Duffy Lewis 1-run single
1914 BSN 5 PHA 4 (12), WS Game 3 Bullet Joe Bush error scores 1 run and caps off a 4-2 comeback in the 10th
1912 BOS 3 NYG 2 (10), WS Game 8 Larry Gardner sac fly wins series and caps off a 2-1 comeback in the 9th
1911 NYG 4 PHA 3 (10), WS Game 5 Fred Merkle sac fly caps off a 3-0 comeback including a 3-1 comeback in the 9th
1910 CHC 4 PHA 3 (10), WS Game 4 Jimmy Sheckard 1-run single caps off a 3-2 comeback in the 9th

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2020.09.09 02:31 Cryptolexicon (LIFESTYLE) - The MGTOW Playbook for Male Professionals

(LIFESTYLE) - The MGTOW Playbook for Male Professionals

"This is sensible advice every male professional can get behind. No private coaching/mentoring and NEVER, ever alone in a meeting room with a woman."


He knows. Absolutely, positively no hugs and Zero Fucks Given if feelings are hurt. Protect your career and your business!
To take a man down, no proof is required. Protect your career - Keep them at a Safe Distance.
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A man's life is easily crushed.
False allegations of rape and sexual harrassment can swiftly lay waste to what has taken years to build: your career, your business.
And so, the need for male professionals to mitigate the risk of false allegations has become an absolute priority.
These simple strategies will help:
  1. The Modesto Protocol: In 1948 Billy Graham created a protocol meant to protect himself and the men on his team from temptation and false accusations. Practical ways to implement the Modesto protocol at work include standing in the doorway of an office to talk rather than entering; sitting across the table; bringing someone with you; telling a trusted person where you will be and checking in with them periodically by text or phone. Feminists are furious with the Modesto protocol because it takes away a major opportunity to create false accusations. Kamala Harris calls it "outrageous,"and the Wall Street Journal's Ashley Parker calls it "Terror of Women."
  2. Absolutely No Hugs: As a way to protect himself from false accusations Sheriff Jim Kaelin of Neuces County, Texas, won't hug anyone except close family and friends--everyone else gets a handshake or fist-bump. There are videos on the internet that teach ways to avoid being hugged. One is to quickly thrust your hand out for a handshake. Another is to side step, take a step back and then offer your hand along with a big smile and a kind and friendly greeting. Not hugging is a way to avoid being accused of touching a woman inappropriately.
  3. NO kisses/pecks on the cheek.
  4. NO private mentoring or coaching.
  5. NO lunches or dinners alone with a female colleague.
  6. CCTV is your friend - Record all interactions: Police body cameras have reduced false accusations against law enforcement officers by 93%. The reason is because liars don't want to be recorded. Recording apps can be installed on your mobile phone. If a female gets abusive turn your recorder on and tell her she is being recorded. Then get away. Recordings can prove you were polite and used a nice tone of voice. A recording preserves the words that were said in case the female changes her story later on. It also documents abuse you were being subjected to including threats, profanity, and slurred words demonstrating intoxication. Be sure to check the recording laws in your state.
  7. Do not get drunk while alone with a woman: Just don't do it. If you meet an interesting female don't get her drunk and don't let her get you drunk. Don't do anything more than get her phone number and have a nice conversation. The first few times you are intimate you both should be fully sober.
  8. Suppose you meet a female at an office party. You get drunk and have sex. Later on send a text such as "you are awesome... thanks!" even if you are not that interested in her. Suppose it elicits a response such as "I had a great night. Let's do it again soon." Two weeks later when she accuses you of rape a text message such as this may make the difference between criminal charges and no charges.
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Even if you take precautions, it is still possible to find yourself being the object of false allegations.
The best strategy to prevent this from happening is to avoid high risk circumstances. However, even if an innocent man is falsely accused he still has options.
Below you will find quick and dirty strategies for surviving false allegations - and quickly shutting down accusers.

Play HardBall - Sue the Accuser immediately.

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- Derrick Rose plays basketball for the New York Knicks. He was humiliated by a false rape accusation made by a woman who sued him for $ 21.5 million dollars. Derrick counter sued his accuser once he was cleared (Al-Othman, Hannah (2016). Derrick Rose demands $ 70,000 compensation from woman who falsely accused him of rape. Daily Mail, Nov 16 2016).
- John Henning was falsely accused of being a pedophile. He sued his accuser. He won a financial award and a public apology. (Evans, Martin (2019). Former MP falsely accused of abuse wins libel action. The Telegraph, Jan 27 2019).
- Dhameer Bradley and Malik Hilaire were falsely accused of rape by Nikki Yovino, causing them to lose their football scholarships to Sacred Heart University. They sued the school and their false accuser. (Rodriguez, Katherine (2018). Former college football players sue student, college over fake rape claim. Breitbart, Oct 30 2018).
- Colonel David Riggins was accused of rape by Susan Shannon, causing him to lose a promotion to Brigadier General. Riggins sued Shannon, winning $ 8.4 million dollars.(Jackman, Tom (2017). Jury orders blogger to pay $ 8.4 million to ex-Army colonel she accused of rape. The Washington Post, Aug 11 2017).

Take a Polygraph and Release the Results

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- Roy Moore was accused of being a pedophile. He quickly took a polygraph and released the results which said he was not lying when he denied the accusation.(Martosko, David (2017). I'm not a pedophile and I've got the polygraph to prove it. Daily Mail, Dec 28 2017).
- Russell Simmons was accused of forcing a 17 year old girl into giving oral sex in 1991. He immediately took a polygraph, provided a picture of him being tested and then his attorneys released the results. (Russell Simmons takes polygraph after assault allegations. TMZ, Dec 14 2017).

Press Release or Full Page Newspaper Denial

Buzzfeed ran an embarrassing story about a young man accused of rape. Attorney Ivey Gilmore was hired to represent him. Her first action was to take out a full page ad in the local paper titled "Character Assassination in the Internet Age", where she characterized the lawsuit as "an attempt to extort money." Gilmore noted text messages, email and photographs which showed the rape accusation was false. She pointed out this evidence caused police to close their investigation. (Roundtree, Cheyenne and Snejana Farberov (2017). Attorney for man accused of raping Alabama student who committed suicide releases full-page ad claiming her text messages exonerate him. Daily Mail, Jul 27 2017).

Hit 'em Hard and Fast - Deny and Make a Counter-Accusation

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- When Kevin Spacey was publically humiliated with a lawsuit claiming he sexually assaulted a teenager, he immediately responded with counter-accusations that the teen sought to be introduced to him, the teen flirted with him, the teen gave Spacey his phone number and the teen lied about his age. (Spargo, Chris (2019). Kevin Spacey fires back at accuser. Daily Mail, Jan 08 2019).
- When soccer star Neymar Santos was publically accused of rape he immediately released photos and x-rated messages from his accuser showing otherwise. (Tahir, Tariq (2019). Neymar 'rape' scandal: Neymar shares x-rated messages and photos he claims were sent to him by rape accuser. The Sun, Jun 02 2019).
- When Mohamed Hadid was accused of date rape he immediately released text messages from his accuser showing she aggressively and willingly participated in sex. He also accused her of extortion. (Parry, Ryan (2018). 'I miss your soft lips and juicy [eggplant emoji]!' Daily Mail, Mar 12 2018).

Reveal Dirt to Stop an Opponent's momentum

When Virginia governor Ralph Northam received considerable attention in the press on his support for late-term abortion, a former classmate slowed Northam's momentum down by revealing a photo of Northam and a friend in a Ku Klux Klan/ blackface photograph. (Caplan, Joshua (2019). Ralph Northams abortion comments prompted classmate to reveal racist photo. Breitbart, Feb 04 2019).

Deny and State Sympathy for the false accuser

When he was accused of sexual assault Chris Hardwick said the accusations were false and devastating. Chris said he wishes his accuser well. (Burke, Minyvonne, and Michelle Curran (2018). 'I was heartbroken to read her post, but did not sexually assault Chhloe.' Daily Mail, Jun 16 2018).
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2020.08.27 18:18 SaintRidley Wrestling Observer Rewind ★ Mar. 21, 1988

March 21, 1988
Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words, continuing in the footsteps of daprice82. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives.
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  • It’s a really slow week for news, so Dave spends a lot of real estate giving his predictions for Wrestlemania and Clash of the Champions. Wrestlemania is first, and he starts with the tournament. There are only three real contenders there: Hogan, DiBiase, and Savage. Everyone else isn’t good enough to carry the company or has loads of baggage the company doesn’t want coming back up. The recent tv taping’s third hour was meant for post-Wrestlemania, so guaranteed non-winners are Andre, Duggan, Reed, Muraco, and Bigelow. Steamboat and Rude probably make it through a round, but not to the final. WWF has foreshadowed things a bit, though. Changing the brackets seems designed to get Savage to the finals, which really necessitates a heel opposite him, which rules out Hogan. Since DiBiase could have won the title in the old bracket without facing Savage in the final (they would have met in the semifinals), changing the bracket to put Savage in the final seems suspect from a DiBiase-must-win scenario. Secondly, the latest issue of WWF magazine has a photo of Elizabeth shopping, captioned “Elizabeth, manager of the World Wrestling Federation Champion Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage”). Red herring? Misprint? Clue? It’s hard to say. The magazine has been out for two weeks. Lastly, a reader swears they were at the taping and peeked behind the curtain and saw Savage carrying the title while doing a promo. Savage has Dave’s vote, as everything just adds up to it and has been since they changed the bracket. For the IC title match, Dave predicts the match will not only be terrible, but that Honkeytonk Man will no longer be the worst Intercontinental Champion ever. Beefer to win it, because somehow he’s managed to get more over than he has any right to be with this barber thing. The Islanders and Heenan vs. Koko B. Ware and the Bulldogs seems destined to go to the Bulldogs, in part because after Dynamite’s injury last year, somehow the company decided to use their time to get Matilda over and this is Matilda’s return. They’ve only got Heenan in so Matilda can chase him around the ring. For the tag titles, Dave predicts Demolition to win. WWF has booked a title change for the tag titles every Wrestlemania to include a tag title match so far, and curiously, Demolition seem to be getting over real well - the last show at the Cow Palace saw all the fans dutifully cheer every face and boo every heel during the announcement of the card with one exception: Demolition got cheered and Strike Force got booed. Dave really hopes Warrior vs. Hercules won’t be the template for pro wrestling in the 90s, as Dave’s only predictions are that this will be a worst match of the year candidate and that neither man will live to see the age of 50. He’s half right: Herc died at 47, but Warrior managed to make it all the way to 54. Lastly, Dave considers the battle royal, a bad concept that Bret Hart managed to single-handedly save and make work previously. There’s no stakes and no heat, it’s just a way to get everyone a payday. Dave’s predictions: babyface will probably win, George Steele won’t get in the ring, Roma and Powers will smile, JYD won’t do anything, Sam Houston takes the best bump going out if he doesn’t win, Harley Race takes the next best bump.
  • Over in Greensboro Coliseum, Crockett’s Clash of the Champions offers its own speculative fun. Flair vs. Sting will certainly go over 20 minutes with loads of near falls and all the usual stuff (Sting not selling the suplex, Flair getting plucked off the top rope). It’s a Ric Flair match, so it’s going to be exactly what you expect, which isn’t a bad thing really. But it does kind of take the excitement out of things. Flair’s gonna get destroyed, but he won’t lose the title and the finish will be one we’ve all seen before. Woo. Dusty and the Road Warriors vs. Ivan Koloff and the Powers of Pain in a barbed wire match seems to exist just for the sake of lots of blood, and barbed wire matches aren’t conducive to good wrestling. Dave figures Dusty wins to the disappointment of many while satiating fans’ blood thirst. For the NWA tag titles, Dave thinks Luger has improved enough to hold up his end of things and the other three are some of the best workers in the territory. Probably a DQ win for the Horsemen, but Luger and Windham winning the titles isn’t a negligible possibility either. On paper, it’s an easy 3.5 star+ match. For the U.S. Tag Titles, Midnight Express vs. the Fantastics looks like a title change. Cornette’s spent too long hyping the length of the Midnights’ title reign for it not to be, and you gotta put over the Fantastics now before fans have a chance to turn on them for being small and too much like the Rock & Roll Express. Rotundo vs. Garvin in an amateur rules match, Dave doesn’t have a prediction for the winner, but figures Rotundo will cheat somehow and Sullivan will do something dastardly, and a hot angle should spin out of it. Finally, Zbyszko vs. Shane Douglas will end, Dave guesses, in a time limit draw or some other kind of unclear finish. Shane’s gotten good, but with Magnum managing others for the Crockett Cup and the Dusty/Zbyszko feud going nowhere, it seems his push is being tweaked.
  • Wrestlemania 4 did finally sell out this past week for the live crowd. You can point out how last year’s show sold over 90,000 tickets to sell out and this show has only 13,500 sold tickets, but there are more things to consider. Last year, all of Michigan was blacked out for closed-circuit and PPV, meaning to see Wrestlemania you either had to leave the state or be in attendance. On the flip side, WWF has eight closed-circuit sites in New York City, eight more in New Jersey, one in Philadelphia, and PPV everywhere. So that’s a huge difference in accessibility, plus tickets this year were way more expensive. Last year’s average ticket price was $16.50, with a lot of $9 tickets for the cheap seats and $100 for the top price. The lowest price this year is $25, and the top price is $150. Overall, this year’s live gate will still be around $1 million, even with the smaller audience.
  • The Crockett Cup’s top ten seeds will be announced at Clash of the Champions. Dave has word about the top 10, and those are Arn & Tully, Dusty & Nikita, Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Powers of Pain, Luger and Windham, Fanatics, Mike otundo & Rick Steiner, Sting & Ron Garvin, and Ivan Koloff & Dick Murdoch. No big name outside teams look to be involved, since even if the Von Erichs and Inoki were to send teams over, they’d insist on them being seeded, if not outright making it to the finals. Crockett’s dropping hints about Puerto Rico and Japan, but there’s no indication other than that of any deals in the works. Steve Williams is returning, but don’t expect him to have a unification match with Ric Flair on night two - the scuttlebutt is that a face from one of the seeded teams will pull out of the tournament to challenge him.
  • WWF looks to be going with Andre vs. Duggan as their big angle following Wrestlemania. They shot the first thing for it on March 9 in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, where Jim Duggan interrupted an Andre and DiBiase interview, only to get beat up and headbutted off stage before he tries to charge and is held back. This is set to air the day before Wrestlemania. The second part of the angle, set to air after Wrestlemania, has Duggan interfere in an Andre match until Andre chokes him and Duggan bleeds from the mouth until he can somehow get his 2x4 and knock Andre out. They bring out a stretcher for Andre but he wakes up and goes berserk, chasing Pat Patterson to backstage.
  • A bigger surprise from that taping, though, is Owen Hart. Apparently he worked the previous night in Bristol, Tennessee as well, but the big deal is he appeared using his real name. He jobbed in a squash in his first match of the show, then had a match in the third hour against Hercules where he got to do a lot of his really cool offense and the crowd was into it, and definitely seems like this match was taped for April 2. No idea if Hart is in for a try-out or what, though it makes little sense to Dave that they’d debut him as a jobber if this was a debut.
  • Outlet Communications, which owns both WATL in Atlanta and Pro Wrestling This Week, is for sale. They’re using it to fuel an angle on the show, announcing on this week’s episode that someone is attempting a hostile takeover.
  • AGB, the other national ratings source besides Neilsen, came out with their ratings for The Main Event. They listed it 35th for the week out of 72 shows, with a 15.1 rating and 23 share (Neilsen had them at 31st place). WWF winning the time slot for the night, which looked really clear going by Neilsen, is now disputed, as AGB had the CBS Beauty and the Beast that aired at the same time ahead of it at 32nd place for the week. This is a huge blow to WWF. Vince had been claiming that Andre vs. Hogan would put them right at the top for the week and be the highest rated show in prime time all season. And now he can’t even definitively claim top of the time slot, nevermind beating Dallas (which both groups had ranking in the top 20).
  • In syndicated ratings, the week ending February 14 saw the WWF network rank 4th place with an 11.1 combined rating. Crockett had a 7.9, falling to 7th place.
  • The Sammartino family is in the news this week. Last week, Bruno quit WWF to promote a 900 hotline amid many complaints about the state of wrestling and WWF specifically. Bruno’s contentions have to do with insulting the intelligence of the fansand not trying to maintain credibility, but obviously Vince thinks differently about how to promote. He was also upset David never got a push, and when he gave his notice two weeks back, Linda McMahon called the next day to tell him they had the name Bruno Sammartino trademarked so he couldn’t use it in any outside business ventures. Considering Bruno’s drawing power in the 60s is the reason many believe Vince Sr. survived as a promoter and WWF even exists today, obviously that should be upsetting. It may be debatable whether or not he’s the sole reason WWF even exists today, but it isn’t debatable that his popularity is the foundation WWF built off. And to make matters worse, David Sammartino was wrestling in New York on March 9 and apparently assaulted a fan who was heckling him. David reportedly went after the fan and threw him out of his chair. He was arrested and given a court date of April 4, and he lost all of his bookings as a result.
  • Saturday Night’s Main Event, filmed March 7, aired March 12. The five matches that aired were part of a massive 14 match card that drew a 10,000 fan sellout, though the crowd was heavily papered as only 2,000 tickets had sold by March 4. Local radio did a deal where anyone who could name two WWF wrestlers got two free tickets. The televised matches saw 1. Beefer pin Valentine by kicking out during a double pin situation while Honketonk taunted him from ringside. 2. Hogan pinning Harley Race. 3. DiBiase beat Savage by countout, with Virgil ejected quickly and Andre interfering after a ref bump to cause the countout, then Elizabeth ran back and got Hogan to save him. 4. Islanders beat Killer Bees with Haku pinning Blair, and what aired was just the first fall - the live crowd got a two of three falls match that the Islanders won 2-1. 5. One Man Gang squashed Ken Patera. The unaired main event saw Andre squash Bam Bam Bigelow in 3 minutes, which shows where Bam Bam’s future is. Duggan’s been getting more and more over again and is primed to take the spot Bam Bam was set up for as #3 babyface after Hogan and Savage.
Watch: Savage vs. DiBiase from Saturday Night's Main Event
  • The annual Cauliflower Alley Club banquet took place this past Saturday. The Cauliflower Alley Club is a group of “wrestlers, boxers, and Hollywood types” mainly from the early tv era, and their banquet is something of a class reunion type deal every year. Lots of names Dave’s read about but never seen, and special honors were given to Fred Blassie, Roddy Piper, Buddy Rogers, Moolah, and Clara Mortensen (who was a pioneer in women’s wrestling alongside Mildred Burke). Loads and loads of old names there: John Tolos, Doc & Mike Gallagher, Ox Anderson, Count Billy Varga, Billy Darnell, Paul Boesch, Kit Fox, Donna Christanello, Toru Tanaka, Red Bastien, Ray “Thunder” Sterne, Reggie Parks, Bob Orton Sr., George “Crybaby” Cannon, Vic Christy, Mike Mazurki, and more. Fred Blassie hammed it up the entire night, but Piper was subdued and seemed happy to be out of wrestling, and Dave believes that Piper believes he’s got no intention of wrestling again (though never say never, if his film career doesn’t pan out). Buddy Rogers still has his trademark strut and look of arrogance, and his old manager Bobby Davis was with him. Davis apparently wants to work as a manager in WWF.
  • [Memphis] Lawler and Eddie Gilbert collide in their first match of their feud on March 14. It all started when Jerry Jarrett made an appearance presenting Lance Russel with a plaque for winning best wrestling announcer for his fourth consecutive year as voted by the fans (fun fact - 1987 was Lance Russel’s fourth consecutive year winning the Observer award for best wrestling announcer) and Russel noted that the tv show also won the fan vote for best tv show. Anyway, Eddie Gilbert and Missy Hyatt came out and started arguing and Lawler did a phone interview at the same time where he said he was waiting for a doctor’s clearance to wrestle. The main event of the show this week saw Gilbert vs. Steve Keirn, and Gilbert kept arguing with Jarrett and then Tommy Gilbert got hold of Jarrett and Eddie threw a fireball at him, and Lawler said doctor’s orders or not he was going to get his hands on Eddie Gilbert.
  • The Samoans were supposed to win the tag titles in Memphis on March 7. But they quit the week before the match.
  • March 14 for Memphis will also feature a cage battle royal with a key on a pole. The only way to win is to get the key from the pole and use it to unlock the door and escape. Vinny Russo, is this your idea?
  • Not a lot new in World Class, except for the fact that Al Perez is set to go to the NWA. He was supposedly meant to regain the title from Kerry on March 25 in Dallas.
  • The Fabulous Lance, formerly Lance Von Erich, is rumored to be returning to World Class next month. Last Dave had heard of him, he was wrestling in South Africa. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, given Fritz tried to bury him and outright stated he wasn’t a real Von Erich after he left.
  • [Stampede] Scott McGhee has returned to Florida to recuperate from his stroke. He’s made good progress, reportedly, but still no indication he’ll ever be able to return to the ring. Indeed, McGhee’s career is over. He’ll do two more one-off matches in 1989 and 2010, but otherwise, he’s past his wrestling days here.
  • The 8-man match on February 27 was, according to Ross Hart, one of the best matches in the history of Stampede. Wayne and Owen Hart teamed with Brian Pillman and Jason the Terrible against Akam Singh, Steve DiSalvo, Gerry Morrow, and Makhan Singh in a match that went 47 minutes and came down to Owen getting pinned by Morrow in the end. Wayne was the first eliminated, and Dave doesn’t know it but this was the last match of Wayne Hart’s in-ring career. I tried to find a video, but I couldn’t find one.
  • Not much news on the AWA front, but they are bringing in a new manager and giving him a big push at their Vegas tapings on March 19. On the one hand, they could have chosen Paul E. Dangerously who is dynamic and great at getting heat with his mic work. But this is the AWA, so they’ll choose someone who has been out of the game for 15 years over a young, hot act. So welcome to the AWA Stan “Big K” Kowalski, whose last relevant work was managing Ivan Koloff and Shozo Kobayashi int the early 1970s.
  • Global hasn’t folded yet, and they recorded six weeks of tv on March 5. The interesting angle saw the evolution of the feud between Col. Kirchner & G.I. Joe Palardy vs. Dr. Red Roberts and V.C. Minh. Last taping, Minh came out with a photo of American soldiers in bodybags being carried home from Vietnam, which caused Kirchner and Palardy to freak out. Roberts, whose gimmick is based on his real life day job as a psychologist, diagnosed Kirchner as having “Patriophobia” and invoked the Baker Act to get Kirchner involuntarily committed to an institution for evaluation. Given Kirchner’s promos, Dave notes that this is entirely consistent with his character, at least. Anyway, shenanigans and such, and the heels win a squash so bad they send out medics, and the medics turn out to be Kirchner and Palardy, who attack and beat up Roberts so badly he declares he’s retiring from wrestling to use his skills in his field to help young men work through drug abuse. Dr. Roberts’ real name is Dr. Michael Brannon, and he’d find himself embroiled in the world of wrestling again in 2001 when the Lionel Tate case happened, providing testimony as an expert against Tate, arguing Tate knew wrestling was fake all along. Who knew that this would tie in so neatly with one of the stories from a recent 2002 rewind?
  • About the only news out of Japan is that All Japan’s March 9 card drew a near sellout for Tenryu vs. Stan Hansen. Tenryu pinned Hansen, Hansen’s third pinfall loss in Japan in seven years, to win the PWF Title, making him a triple champion alongside his United National and PWF Tag Titles.
  • The New York State Athletic Commission showed their double standard against independent groups earlier this month. They wrote a memo to Northeast Championship Wrestling citing Misty Blue’s attire as “too short.” Meanwhile, Vince gets to fly in the face of any and all Athletic Commission rules in the state. Granted, some of the rules are beyond asinine (it’s still illegal for a wrestling promoter to have a financial interest in a wrestler), but come on. It’s ring attire.
  • The Von Erich story in Penthouse looks pretty set for the July issue now. Nope.
  • Queen Kong/Mount Fiji from GLOW and POWW is setting up her own tv show called Rasslin Revival. You didn’t hear it from Dave, because he didn’t write it in the issue, but Queen Kong apparently also invented the phone sex line.
Read: The Woman Who Invented Phone Sex and Wrestled Bears
  • Barry Orton was convicted in his vehicular manslaughter trial. His sentence is six years, but he could be out in under two with good behavior. The conviction comes right as he was starting to do some of the best work of his career, but you know, someone’s dead so that should probably be the key takeaway.
  • A sportscaster who has worked with both Kirk Gibson of the L.A. Dodgers and Hulk Hogan called in to give his opinion on the comparison that was made forever ago and which still comes up in some of the letters. Anyway, the guy says Gibson is an asshole 99% of the time and Hogan is often quite nice and is easily 10 times more popular than Gibson on top of being friendlier in public. Good thing those numbers look reasonable, or I’d suspect the sportscaster’s name was Bulk Bogan.
  • A lot of Crockett contracts are set to expire in May, so expect WWF to make a play for several of them to retaliate for Clash of the Champions.
  • Almost everyone who called Dave this week had something to say about Jim Cornette’s comments on TBS this past Saturday. How the hell did he slip “beating meat” past Standards and Practices?
  • Ted Turner is starting a new tv network in October with a focus on sports and MGM movies, and Crockett may wind up switched to that new network. It’s going to be called TNT. Oh yeah, that network will definitely have wrestling on it in the future.
  • Something Dave does now and again that I usually skip over here is give rankings for who he feels are the top wrestlers. This week he ranks his top 25 men’s tag teams and top 40 men’s singles guys. Owen Hart is #1 for singles guys. Ric Flair has fallen all the way down to #3.
  • Fabulous Lance may not be coming into World Class afterall. Apparently his booker didn’t want him as anything but a babyface, while Fritz wanted him to partner with the Freebirds.
  • The Owen vs. Hercules match was apparently not supposed to be taped, so who knows if it’ll air. It definitely did wind up taped, so that’s all up in the air. It in fact did not air.
  • All charges against David Sammartino have been dropped in the case of the incident with the fan. It made a lot of press nationally for such a small thing, and it did result in David getting fired while other WWF guys have skated by with worse incidents. Apparently the fan was heckling David by using insider terms, which I guess absolves David from any responsibility for putting hands on the guy?
  • A reader writes in that as much as Dave complains about bad taste, he’s put out some really tasteless stuff himself. Namely, putting the info to help Al Blake (Vladmir Petrov) pay his legal expenses given his conviction for drug smuggling, and the writer would probably have let it slide if not for it being the Observer and how many readers “seem to live and die by the gospel according to Dave Meltzer.” The other instance he cites is admittedly less severe, but using one of his trademark denigrating nicknames (“Doggie” in this case) to refer to Maurice “Mad Dog” Vachon regarding the hit and run that cost him his leg strikes the writer as blatant and callous disregard for Vachon’s dignity after what he went through. He also throws a plea to Dave to cover GLOW and POWW, “keeping in mind I’m wasting my time.” Or at least, let the readers vote on it. It’d be a better use of space than covering Central States (and if you’re wondering why you rarely see anything about Central States in the rewinds, it’s because nothing and no one of consequence is there).
NEXT WEEK: Interest in Wrestlemania down, Billy Jack Haynes vs. Don Owen promotional war, Dump retirement ratings hit, syndicated ratings rankings, and more
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2020.08.24 21:16 aaronk287 Tracking the linear owner of the title "The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be"

So after reading u/theuniversaltool's post about Randy Orton having every single lineal title, I decided to figure out if he was in fact the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
 
In Bret Hart's book he said this about his catchphrase that he is know for 'till this day:
On September 28 [1985], Jim and I appeared on Vince’s Tuesday Night Titans show, a campy takeoff of The Tonight Show, which was supposed to afford the fans a rare glimpse of the wrestlers out of character. I had rarely ever talked to Vince McMahon at the time, and when he turned to me, I blurted out a line from Robert Redford’s movie The Natural: “?‘We’re the best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be!’?” Little did I know it would soon become my trademark line.
 
With that said, I used 9/28/85 as a start date for this tracker. Additionally, given that Bret Hart doesn't make excuses so neither will I. We will count any loss that isn't a tag team loss. Singles, triple threat, gimmick matches, DQs, Count outs will all be tracked. You know why, because the best rise above adversity.
 
Wrestler Date Won Show/Promotion Number of reigns
Bret Hart 9/28/1985
Dynamite Kid 10/24/1985 WWF House
Junkyard Dog 11/7/1985 WWF The Wrestling Classic
Randy Savage 11/7/1985 WWF The Wrestling Classic
Junkyard Dog 11/30/1985 WWF House Show 2
Terry Funk 12/1/1985 WWF House Show 2
Hulk Hogan 12/7/1985 WWF on Prism
Randy Savage 12/26/1985 WWF House Show 2
Tito Santana 1/5/86 WWF House Show
Randy Savage 1/11/1986 WWF on NESN 3
Dino Bravo 1/12/1986 WWF House SHow
Samu 6/30/86 International Wrestling
Dino Bravo 7/22/1986 International Wrestling 2
Samu 8/11/86 2
Dino Bravo 8/12/86 3
Samu 8/31/86 3
Tatsumi Fujinami 11/16/1986 NJPW Japan Cup 86
Kengo Kimura 1/3/1987 NJPW New Years Dash
Tatsumi Fujinami 1/14/1987 NJPW Fierce Fight Special 2
Bam Bam Bigelow 4/13/1987 NJPW Blazing Cherry Blossoms
Tatsumi Fujinami 4/27/1987 NJPW Blazing Cherry Blossoms 3
Bam Bam Bigelow 7/21/1987 NJPW Summer Big Fight Series 2
Yoshiaki Fujiwara 7/23/1987 NJPW Summer Big Fight Series
Steve Williams 10/21/87 NJPW Toukon Series
Antonio Inoki 10/25/87 NJPW Toukon Series
Vader 12/27/1987 NJPW Year End
Antonio Inoki 1/4/88 NJPW New Year Golden Series 2
Riki Choschu 7/22/88 NJPW Summer FIght Series 88
Vader 7/25/88 NJPW Summer FIght Series 88 2
Antonio Inoki 7/29/88 NJPW Summer FIght Series 88 3
Riki Choschu 10/19/1988 NJPW Fighting Spirit Series 88 2
Vader 1/16/89 NJPW New Year Golden Series 89 3
Riki Choschu 1/26/89 NJPW New Year Golden Series 89 3
Shinya Hashimoto 4/24/89 NJPW Battle Satellite
Vader 4/24/89 NJPW Battle Satellite 4
Salman Hashimikov 5/25/89 NJPW Battle Satellite
Riki Choschu 7/12/89 NJPW Summer Fight Series 89 4
Vader 8/10/89 NJPW 5
Shinya Hashimoto 11/3/89 NJPW 2
Masahiro Chono 11/26/89 NJPW World Cup League
Riki Choschu 12/6/89 NJPW World Cup League 5
Shinya Hashimoto 5/28/90 NJPW Crush the Super Heavy 3
Bam Bam Bigelow 8/20/90 NJPW 3
Shinya Hashimoto 9/30/90 NJPW Inoki Festival 4
Riki Choschu 11/1/90 NJPW Dream Tour 6
Tatsumi Fujinami 12/26/90 NJPW King of Kings 4
Vader 1/17/91 NJPW New Year Dash 6
Tatsumi Fujinami 3/4/91 NJPW Big Fight Series 91 5
Ric Flair 5/19/91 WCW Superbrawl
El Gigante 5/21/91 WCW House Show
Ric Flair 6/8/91 WCW House Show 2
Hulk Hogan 10/25/91 WWF House Show 2
Ric Flair 10/27/91 WWF House Show 3
Hulk Hogan 11/1/1991 WWF House Show 3
Ric Flair 11/9/91 WWF House Show 4
Hulk Hogan 11/12/91 WWF Wrestling Challenge 4
The Undertaker 11/27/91 Survivor Series
Hulk Hogan 12/3/91 WWF This Tuesday 5
Ric Flair 1/12/92 WWF House Show 5
Hulk Hogan 1/18/1992 6
Yokozuna 6/13/1993 WWF King of the Ring 93
Bret Hart 7/16/93 WWF House Show 2
Bam Bam Bigelow 7/19/1993 WWF Monday Night Raw 4
Tatanka 7/29/93 WWF Summer Tour
Jerry Lawler 9/18/93 USWA Wrestling
Bret Hart 9/29/93 WWF Wrestling Challenge 3
Yokozuna 10/9/93 WWF House Show 2
The Undertaker 10/29/93 WWF House Show 2
Yokozuna 11/21/93 WWF House Show 3
The Undertaker 11/26/93 WWF House Show 3
Yokozuna 1/22/94 WWF Royal Rumble 4
Bret Hart 2/6/94 WWF Winter Tour 4
Randy Savage 3/6/94 WWF House Show 4
Kevin Nash 4/2/94 WWF House Show
Scott Hall 4/13/94 WWF Superstars
Kevin Nash 5/6/94 WWF House Show 2
Scott Hall 6/23/94 WWF House Show 2
Kevin Nash 6/25/94 WWF House Show 3
Scott Hall 6/30/94 WWF House Show 3
Kevin Nash 7/23/94 WWF House Show 4
Scott Hall 7/24/94 WWF House Show 4
Shawn Michaels 8/1/94 WWF Monday Night Raw
Tatanka 8/11/94 WWF House Show 2
The Undertaker 8/14/94 WWF House Show 4
Lex Luger 8/17/94 WWF Superstars
Yokozuna 8/21/94 WWF House Show 5
The Undertaker 8/25/94 WWF House Show 5
Sid Vicious 11/7/94 USWA Wrestling
Lex Luger 11/8/94 USWA Wrestling 2
IRS 12/12/94 WWF Monday Night Raw
The Undertaker 12/26/94 WWF House Show 6
Bam Bam Bigelow 3/2/95 WWF House Show 5
The Undertaker 3/12/95 WWF House Show 7
Mabel 6/25/95 WWF King of the Ring 95
Savio Vega 6/28/95 WWF Wrestling Challenge
Sid Vicious 8/29/95 WWF SUperstars 2
Bret Hart 8/30/95 WWF House Show 5
The Undertaker 11/24/95 WWF House Show 8
Bret Hart 12/1/95 WWF House Show 6
The Undertaker 1/21/96 WWF Royal Rumble 9
Bret Hart 2/20/96 WWF Superstars 7
The Undertaker 2/24/96 WWF House Show 10
Bret Hart 2/25/96 WWF House Show 8
Shawn Michaels 3/31/96 WWF Wrestlemania 12 2
SId Vicious 11/17/96 WWF Survivor Series 3
Steve Austin 11/27/96 WWF House Show
Bret Hart 12/2/96 Middle East Cup 9
Sid Vicious 12/15/96 WWF In Your House 12 4
The Undertaker 12/15/96 WWF Monday Night Raw 11
sid Vicious 1/3/97 WWF House Show 5
Shawn Michaels 1/19/97 WWF Royal Rumble 3
Ken Shamrock 11/3/97 WWF Raw is War
The Rock 1/18/1998 WWF Royal Rumble
Ken Shamrock 2/4/98 WWF House Show 2
The Rock 2/27/98 WWF House Show 2
Ken SHamrock 3/5/98 WWF House Show 3
The ROck 3/29/98 WWF Wrestlemania 14 3
Owen Hart 3/31/98 WWF Raw is War
Triple H 4/7/98 WWF DX in Germany Tour
Steve Austin 4/18/98 WWF House Show 2
Mick Foley 4/26/98 WWF In your House 21
Steve Austin 5/31/98 WWF In your House 21 3
Kane 6/28/98 WWF King of the Ring
Steve Austin 6/29/98 WWF Raw is War 4
Mick Foley 11/15/98 WWF Survivor Series 2
The Rock 11/15/98 WWF Survivor Series 4
Steve Austin 11/16/1998 WWF Raw is War 5
Mankind 3/2/1999 WWF Raw is War
Goldust 4/10/1999 WWF Raw is War
The Godfather 4/12/1999 WWF Raw is War
Jeff Jarrett 5/31/1999 WWF Raw is War
Ken Shamrock 6/14/99 WWF Sunday Night HEat 4
Billy GUnn 6/20/99 WWF Sunday Night Heat
Bradshaw 6/28/99 WWF Raw is War
Kane 7/11/99 WWF Sunday Night Heat 2
The Big Show 7/25/99 WWF Fully Loaded
Kane 7/28/99 WWF House Show 3
Triple H 9/12/1999 WWF House Show 2
Vince McMahon 9/14/1999 WWF Smackdown
Triple H 12/12/99 WWF Armageddon 3
The Rock 12/26/1999 WWF House Show 5
Kurt Angle 1/4/00 WWF Smackdown
Tazz 1/23/00 WWF Royal Rumble
Kurt Angle 1/29/00 WWF House Show 2
The Rock 1/31/00 WWF Raw is War 6
Kurt Angle 2/1/00 WWF Smackdown 3
Chyna 2/15/00 WWF Smackdown
Eddie Guerrero 5/1/00 WWF Judgement Day
Dean Malenko 5/9/00 WWF Smackdown
The Big Bossman 6/24/00 WWF Smackdown
Steve Blackman 7/4/00 WWF Smackdown
Shane McMahon 8/21/00 WWF Raw is War
Steve Blackman 8/27/00 WWF SUmmerslam 2
Raven 1/6/01 WWF House Show
Jerry Lawler 1/14/01 WWF House Show 2
Steven Richards 2/25/01 WWF No Way Out
Kane 4/16/01 WWF Raw is War 4
Rhyno 4/17/01 WWF Smackdown
The Big Show 5/21/01 WWF Smackdown 2
Chris Jericho 5/28/01 WWF Raw is War
Steve Austin 6/3/01 WWF House Show 6
Kurt Angle 8/19/01 WWF SummerSlam 2001 4
Rob Van Dam 10/2/01 WWF Smackdown
Chris Jericho 10/9/01 WWF Smackdown 2
Rhyno 10/13/01 WWF Smackdown 2
Chris Jericho 10/15/01 WWF Raw is War 3
The Rock 11/5/01 WWF Raw 7
Chris Jericho 12/9/01 WWF Vengeance 2001 4
Rob Van Dam 12/17/01 WWF Raw 2
William Regal 1/15/02 WWF House Show
Big Show 2/26/02 WWF Smackdown
Al Snow 3/12/02 WWF Smackdown
Maven 3/18/02 WWF Raw
Raven 3/26/02 WWF Smackdown 2
Bubba Ray Dudley 4/1/02 WWF Raw
William Regal 4/6/02 WWF Raw 2
Spike Dudley 4/8/02 WWF Raw
William Regal 5/6/02 WWF Raw 3
Bubba Ray Dudley 5/20/02 WWE Raw 2
Brock Lesnar 5/24/02 WWE Raw House Show
Rob Van Dam 6/24/02 WWE Raw 3
The Undertaker 7/13/02 WWE Raw House Show 12
The Rock 7/21/02 WWE Vengeance 8
Brock Lesnar 8/25/02 WWE Summerslam 2
The Big Show 11/17/02 WWE Survivor Series 3
Brock Lesnar 12/6/02 WWE Smackdown House Show 3
The Big Show 12/8/02 WWE Smackdown House Show 4
Brock Lesnar 12/14/02 WWE Smackdown House Show 4
Kurt Angle 3/11/03 WWE Smackdown 5
Brock Lesnar 3/30/03 WWE Wrestlemania 19 5
Kurt Angle 7/27/03 WWE Vengeance 6
Brock Lesnar 9/16/03 WWE Smackdown 6
The Undertaker 10/14/03 WWE Smackdown 13
Brock Lesnar 10/19/03 WWE Smackdown 7
Eddie Guerrero 2/15/04 WWE No Way Out 2
Crush 2/23/2004 WWF Wrestling Challenge
Bradshaw 5/8/04 WWE Smackdown House Show 2
Eddie Guerrero 5/23/04 WWE Raw House Show 3
Bradshaw 6/27/04 WWE The Great American Bash 3
Shannon Moore 7/6/04 WWE Smackdown
Jon Heidenreich 7/20/2004 WWE Velocity
Matt Morgan 8/13/04 OVW Six Flags Summer Sizzler
Chris Cage 10/13/04 OVW TV
Chad Toland 12/1/04 OVW TV
Elijah Burke 12/8/04 OVW TV
Matt Morgan 4/13/05 OVW TV 2
Shock/Phantasio/Spellbinder 4/16/2005 Memphis Wrestling Throwback Night VI
 
That Shannon Moore victory really changed the course of history and took this a different way than it should have.
And with that, Shock AKA Phantasio AKA Spellbinder AkA Harry Del Rios is the true Best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be
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2020.06.04 17:08 ChildfreeFamily Help fact-checking a list of well known Childfree people

I'm compiling a list of childfree people for a blog. I have found a few lists online (which have been helpful). But in some cases they were not up-to-date. A person may have had children since being added to their list (example: I had to remove George Clooney who appeared on a number of lists). Or there might be some people missing who should be on the list.
If you have a moment to scan the list and let me know of any other errors or omissions it would be appreciated.
It has been fun working on this list. A few people on it surprised me. Thanks again for any help.
\Edit for clarification: the term "childfree", in the sense of this list, will be in regards to people who never had a child from a live birth, fostered a child, adopted a child, or was a step-parent.*

Herbert Samuel Adams – Sculptor
Charles Addams – Cartoonist (The New Yorker)
Jane Addams - Social Worker, Political Activist, Co-Founder of the ACLU, & Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Nancy Addison – Actress
Louisa May Alcott – Author
Cynthia May Westover Alden – Author, Philanthropist
Grover Cleveland Alexander – Baseball Player
Suzy Allegra – Author
Marty Allen – Comedian
John Murray Anderson – Musical Theatre Producer
Laurie Anderson – Performance Artist
Marian Anderson – Concert Singer
Louis Andriessen – Composer
Jennifer Aniston – Actress
Susan B. Anthony – Womans’ Suffragist
Samuel Appleton – Politician, Philanthropist
Geoffrey Arend - Actor
Louis Armstrong – Musician (Contested: The Louis Armstrong Museum states he had no children, but in 2012 Sharon Preston-Folta has claimed to be his daughter from Lucille “Sweets” Preston, a dancer at the New York Cotton Club)
Boris Artzybasheff – Artist
Dorothy Arzner – Film Director
Dr. Robert C. Atkins – Diet Doctor, Author, Creator of the Atkins Diet
V.C. Andrews – Author
Jane Austen – Author
Max Baer Jr. – Actor
Francis Bacon – Politician, Philosopher, Scientist
Florence Bailey – Author, Naturalist, Ornithologist
Tallulah Bankhead – Actress
Abdullah al-Baradouni – Yemeni Poet
Bob Barker – Game Show Host
Joe Barr – Canadian Politician
Lynda Barry – Cartoonist
Clara Barton - Nurse, Humanitarian, Founder and First President of the American Red Cross
Kathy Bates – Actress
Jaya Battacharya – Actress
King Baudouin – King of Belgium
Samuel Beckett – Author, Playwright, Poet
Ludwig Van Beethoven – Composer
Joe Besser – Actor
Isabella Bird – Author
Jacqueline Bisset – Actress
Lewis Black – Comedian
Eubie Blake – Musician, Composer
William Blake – Artist
Brenda Blethyn – Actress
Marc Blitzstein – Composer, Dramatist
Baroness Karen Blixen – Author
Rosa Bonheur – French Painter and Sculptor
Pierre Bonnard – Artist
William Edgar Borah – Politician
Lara Flynn Boyle – Actress
Georges Brassens – Singer
Alison Brie – Actress
Joe Bob Briggs aka John Bloom – Author, Movie Critic
Raymond Briggs – Children’s Book Author
Poppy Z. Brite – Author
Anne Bronte – Author
Louise Brooks – Actress
Helen Gurley Brown – Feminist, Editor
Reno Browne – Actress, Equestrian
Delta Burke – Actress
Kathy Burke - Actress, Comedian
James Buchanan – 15th U.S. President
Pat Buchanan – Politician, Presidential Candidate
James Burke – Creator of the PBS Series “Connections”, Scientific American columnist
Raymond Burr – Actor
Caryl Lee Burroughs – Hollywood Animal Trainer
Leo Buscaglia – Author
Brett Butler – Actress, Comedian
Julia Cameron – Director
Phyllis Carlyle – Film Producer
Dora Carrington – Bloomsbury Artist
Laura Carroll – Author
Mary Casatt – Artist
Roger Casement – Irish Patriot
Nina Cassian – Poet
Barbara Castle – British Politician
Kim Cattrall – Actress
Mary Chapin Carpenter – Singer, Songwriter
Rosamond Halsey Carr – Founder of Rwanda’s Imbabazi Orphanage, Author, Fashion Designer
Richard Chamberlain – Actor
Coco Chanel – Fashion Designer (Contested: Following her elder sister’s suicide, she looked after her son)
Stockard Channing – Actress
RuPaul Andre Charles - Drag Performer, TV Personality
Judy Chicago – Artist
Margaret Cho – Comedian
Julia Child – Professional Chef, Cookbook Author
Helen Clark – New Zealand Prime Minister
Patricia Clarkson – Actress
Dorothy Clewes – Children’s Book Author
Imogene Coca – Actress
Claudette Colbert – Actress
Billy Collins – U.S. Poet Laureate
C. Collodi – Author
William Conrad – Actor
Frances Conroy – Actress
Storm Constantine – Fantasy Writer
Jill Ker Conway – Author, first woman President of Smith College
Anne Cool – Canadian Senator
Pat Coombs – Actress
Copernicus – Scientist
John Corbett – Actor
Joseph Cornell – Artist and Creator of the Cornell Box
Ann Coulter – Political Commentator
Alec Sadler Craig – Australian Politician, Philanthropist
Quentin Crisp – Author, Actor
Tim Curry – Actor
Charlotte Curtis – First woman on the masthead of The New York Times
Patrika Darbo – Actress
Simone de Beauvoir – Author
Mahmoud Darwish – Palestinian Poet
Leonardo Da Vinci – Artist
Gray Davis – Governor of California
Ellen Degeneres – Comedian
Jeffery Deaver – Author
Eugene Victor Debs – Activist
Bessie and Sadie Delaney – Authors
Dana Delany – Actress
Don DeLillo – Author
Del Rubio Triplets – Musical Group
Bo Derek – Actress
Rene Descartes – Philosopher
Portia De Rossi – Actress
Emily Dickinson – Poet
Benjamin Disraeli – Politician, Author
Steve Ditko – Cartoonist, co-creator of the Spider-Man Comics
Dorothea Dix – Educator, writer, philanthropist
Hannah Dobryn – Author
Tamara Dobson – Actress
Richard Donner – Film Director
Lauren Shuler Donner – Film Producer
Lizzie Douglas aka Memphis Minnie- Singer, Guitarist, Songwriter
Marjory Stoneman Douglas – Environmentalist, Founder of Friends of the Everglades
Maureen Dowd – Columnist, Pulitzer Prize winner
Sir George Downing – Founder of Downing College, Cambridge, England
Gabriel Dumont – Native American Tribal Leader
Lena Dunham - Actress, Director, Producer
Francis Drake – Explorer
Fran Drescher – Actress
Esther Dyson – Author, Internet Expert
Amelia Earhart – Aviator
Deborah Eisenberg – Author
Liubov Egorova – Dancer
Anita Ekberg – Actress
T.S. Eliot – Poet
Havelock Ellis – Psychologist, Author
Tracee Ellis Ross – Actress
Harlan Ellison – Author
Elizabeth I – Queen of England
Joan Elm – Canadian Politician, Community Activist
Bonnie Erbé – PBS Commentator and Columnist
Dame Edith Evans – British Film and Stage Actress
Linda Evans – Actress
Rupert Everett – Actor
Anne Ewers – CEO of the Utah Symphony & Opera
Jane Fallon – Author
Chow Yun-Fat – Actor
Barbara Feldon – Actress
Pamelyn Ferdin – Actress
Ralph Fiennes – Actor
Lynn Fontanne – Actress
Margot Fonteyn – British Ballerina
Juliana Rieser Force – Whitney Museum Director
Richard Ford – Author, Editor of Granta
Margaretta Forten – Abolitionist
Dian Fossey – Anthropologist
Janet Frame – Poet
Felix Frankfurter – Supreme Court Justice
Tanya Franks – Actress
William Frawley – Actor
Frank Frazetta – Artist
Alice Freeman – First woman to be President of a liberal arts college, (Wellesley), helped establish the University of Chicago.
Elsie Freund – Artist, Jewelry Designer
Louis Freund – Artist
Robert Fripp – Composer, Musician
Stephen Fry - Actor, Comedian
Eva Gabor – Actress
Magda Gabor – Actress
Maxwell Gage – Noted New Zealand Geologist
Diamanda Galas – Singer
Tess Gallagher – Author
Paul William Gallico – Author
Janeane Garofalo – Actress, Comedian
Greta Garbo – Actress
Ava Gardner – Actress
Henry Garfiled aka Henry Rollins - Musician (Black Flag, Rollins Band)
Greer Garson – Actress
Gloria Gaynor – Singer
Anthony Geary – Soap Opera Actor
Ricky Gervais – Comedian
William Schwenck Gilbert – Composer for Gilbert & Sullivan
Althea Gibson – Athlete
Dorothy Gish – Actress
Lillian Gish – Actress
Katharine Bruce Glasier – Author
Susan Glaspell – Playwright
Sharon Gless – Actress
Crispin Glover – Actor
Christoph Willibald Gluck – Composer
Paulette Goddard – Actress
Robert Hutchings Goddard – Physicist
Kurt Godel – Author
Alexander Godunov – Actor, Dancer
Stephen Goldin – Author
Emma Goldman – Activist, Feminist
Valeria Golino – Actress
Jan Goodwin – Author, Travel Writer
Edward Gorey – Artist
Lotte Goslar – Dancer
Lauren Graham - Actress (Contested - Her long-term partner has a child.)
Martha Graham – Choreographer
Cecil Green – Former CEO of Texas Instruments, Philanthropist
Johnny Green – Musician
Gael Greene – Food Critic, Author
Baroness Susan Greenfield – Director of the Royal Institution, Professor of Synaptic Pharmacology at Oxford University, Neurologist
John Robert Gregg – Inventor of the Gregg Shorthand Method, Publisher
Joyce Grenfell – British Actress
Nanci Griffith – Singer, Songwriter
Martha Griffiths – First Female Michigan Lieutenant Governor
Terry Gross – NPR Host
James Grout – Actor
Mabel Dole Haden – Former President of NABWA
Catherine Hakim – British Sociologist
Daryl Hall – Singer, Musician (Hall & Oates)
Jon Hamm - Actor
Celia Hammond – Former Model and Animal Activist
Lionel Hampton – Musician
Georg Friedrich Handel – Composer
Chelsea Handler - Comedian
Howard Harold Hanson – Pulitzer-Prize Winning Composer
Setsuko Hara – Japanese Actress
Warren Gamaliel Harding – 29th U.S. President
E Chambré Hardman – Photographer
Jean Harlow - Actress
Debbie Harry – Singer (Blondie)
Alex Heard – Author
Sir Edward Heath - Politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Susan Helms – Astronaut
Christina Hendricks - Actress, Model
Adrian Henri – Poet, Painter
Marguerite Henry – Children’s Book Author
Katherine Hepburn – Actress
Milton S. Hershey – Founder of the Hershey Chocolate Company
Lorena Hickok – AP Political Reporter
Taiko Hirabayashi – Author
Nicole Hollander – Cartoonist
Thelma Holt – Actress, Theatre Producer
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. – Associate Justice of the Supreme Court (USA)
Grace Murray Hopper – Computer Scientist
Rima Horton - Politician
Soad Hosni – Egyptian Actress
Lila Kedrova Howard – Actress
Mick Hucknall – Singer
Howard Hughes - American Business Magnate, Investor, Pilot, Engineer, Film Director, Philanthropist
Bonnie Hunt – Actress
Kristin Hunter – Children’s Book Author
Lauren Hutton – Actress, Model
Patricia Ireland – President of the National Organization for Women, NOW
George J. Irbe – Creator of the Great Lakes water temperature climatology
John A. “Jack” Jackson – Philanthropist, Oilman
Tove Jansson – Children’s Book Author
Randall Jarrell – Poet
Anna Jarvis – the “Founder of Mother’s Day”
Joan of Arc – Christian Saint
Jack Johnson – First African-American to win the heavyweight boxing championship of the world.
Margaret Johnston – Actress
Martin and Osa Johnson – Authors, Photographers, explorers, and naturalists.
Richard Mentor Johnson – U.S. Vice-President
Samuel Johnson – Author, Editor
William Hugh Johnston – Labor Leader
Carolyn Jones – Actress
Renee Jones – Actress
Spike Jonze – Film Director
Ashley Judd – Actress, Activist
Madeline Kahn – Actress
Immanuel Kant – Philosopher
Julie Kavner – Actress
Nikos Kazantzakis – Author
Odette Keene – Musician
Helen Keller – Author
Joyce Kennard – Judge
Joe Kernan – Politician
Maynard Keynes – Economist, Founder of the Vic-Wells Ballet, Financed the Arts Theatre in Cambridge, England
King Louis XVI – King of France
William Lyon MacKenzie King – Former Canadian Prime Minister
William Rufus King – U.S. Vice-President
Robert Kiyosaki – Author
Caroline Knapp – Author
Aleksandra Kollontai – Author
Dean Koontz – Author
Tadeusz Kościuszko – Polish Patriot
Jerzy Kosinski – Author
Jonathan Kozol – Author, Activist
Lee Krasner – Artist
Albert Kroc – Co-Developer of McDonald’s Fast Food Chain
Henry Richardson Labouisse – Diplomat, Former Head of UNICEF
Karl Lagerfeld - Fashion Designer
Princess Lakshmi – Indian Princess
Elsa Lanchester – Actress
Philip Larkin – Author, Poet
Charles Laughton – Actor, Director
Dan Lauria – Actor
Frank John Lausche – Politician
Tom Lehrer – Singer, Musician
Jay Leno – TV Host
Richard Lewis – Comedian
Lyn Lifshin – Poet
Queen Liliuokalani – Queen of Hawaii
Siân Lloyd – Weather Broadcaster
Carole Lombard – Actress
Jack Lord – Actor
Pauline Lord – Actress
Patty Loveless – Singer
Alfred Lunt – Actor
John Lyon – Philanthropist, Regarded as the Founder of The Great Public School Of Harrow
Rose McClendon – Actress
Robert McCormick – Former Owner of the Chicago Tribune
Mary Jackson McCrorey – Politician, Activist
Hattie McDaniel – Actress
Roddy McDowall – Actor, Photographer
Odd McIntyre – Newspaper Columnist
Ian McKellen – Actor
Kristy McNichol – Actress
Janet McTeer – Actress
Christine McVie – Singer, Songwriter (Fleetwood Mac)
Dora Maar – Photographer
René Magritte – Artist
Bill Maher – TV Personality
Katherine Mansfield – Author
Shirley Manson – Singer
Vito Anthony Marcantonio – Politician
Francesca Marciano – Actress
Miriam Margoyles – Actress
Mary Ellen Mark – Award-Winning Photographer
William III & Mary II of England – King & Queen of England, Ireland, and Scotland
Bobbie Ann Mason – Children’s Book Author
Mari Matsunaga – Creator of i-mode, Named One of the Top 25 Tech Women of the Web
Theresa May - Politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Giuseppe Mazzini – Italian Patriot
Fradique de Menezes – President of Sao Tome and Principe
Melina Mercouri – Greek Actress
Freddie Mercury – Musician
Angela Merkel – German Chancellor
George Michael – Musician
Oscar Micheaux – Film Director, Producer, Author
Edna St. Vincent Millay – Poet
Alley Mills – Actress
Brenda Milner – Renowned Professor of Neuro-Psychology: Mcgill’s Faculty Of Medicine And At The Montreal Neurological Institute
Kylie Minogue - Singer
Helen Mirren – Actress
Margaret Mitchell – Author
Eugenio Montale – Nobel Prize Winner, Poet, Author, Editor, Translator
Vicki Moore – Spanish Animal Rights Philanthropist
John Morgan – Founder of the University of Pennsylvania Medical School, and Medical Director of the Continental Army
Lady Morgan (Sydney Owenson) – Author
Morrissey – Musician
Rob Morse – Columnist (San Francisco Chronicle)
Marjorie “Mo” Mowlam – Britain’s Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
John Mulaney – Comedian
Annamarie Tendler Mulaney – Artist
Diana Muldaur – Actress
Megan Mullally - Actress
Ona Munson – Actress
Haruki Murakami – Author
Iris Murdoch – Author
Mikayil Mushfig – Poet
Modest Mussorgsky – Composer
Kanagarajah Muthiah – Tamil Activist
Ralph Nader – Activist
Taslima Nasrin – Author
Alla Nazimova – Actress
Noel Neill – Actress
Bebe Neuwirth – Actress
Sir Isaac Newton – Scientist
Stevie Nicks – Singer (Fleetwood Mac)
Friedrich Nietzsche – Philosopher
Florence Nightingale – Nurse
Ursula Nordstrom – Children’s Book Editor
Jessye Norman – Opera Singer
Kim Novak – Actress
Rudolph Nureyev – Dancer
Anita O’Day – Jazz Singer
Georgia O’Keeffe – Artist
Frederick D. O’Neal – Actor, Playwright
Joyce Carol Oates – Author
Nick Offerman - Actor
Sandra Oh - Actress
Claire Parker – Director, Animator
Dorothy Parker – Author
Suzanne-Lori Parks – Playwright
Rosa Parks – Activist
Dolly Parton – Singer, Actress
Julia Pascal – Playwright
Ann Patchett – Author
Alicia Patterson – Editor
Wolfgang Pauli – Physicist
Linus Pauling – Winner of Nobel Prizes in Chemistry and Peace
Sarah Paulson – Actress
Michelle Paver – Author
Anna Pavlova – Dancer
Molly Peacock – Poet, President Emerita of the Poetry Society of America
Minnie Pearl – Singer
Samuel Pepys – Author
Matthew Perry - Actor
Bernadette Peters – Actress
Jean Peters - Actress
Arthur Phillip – First British Administrator Sent to Australia
Wendell Phillips – Orator and Reformer
William Phillips – Co-founder and Editor of Partisan Review , Writer, Critic
Marge Piercy – Author, Poet
Plato – Philosopher
Martha Plimpton - Actress
Edgar Allan Poe – Author
Jackson Pollock – Artist
Katherine Ann Porter – Author
Parker Posey – Actress
Beatrix Potter – Children’s Book Author
Charles Edward Potter – Politician, Philanthropist, Administrator of the Cheboygan County Bureau of Social Aid
Joyce Purnick – Former New York Times Metro Editor, Journalist
Edna Purviance – Silent Movie Actress
Colin Quinn – Comedian
Robin Quivers – Radio Host
Raffi – Children’s Musician
Bonnie Raitt – Singer, Songwriter
Joey Ramone – Musician
Ayn Rand – Writer, Philosopher, Author
A. Philip Randolph – Politician
Jeanette Rankin – 1st Female US Representative
Man Ray – Artist
Rachel Ray – Celebrity Chef
Lou Reed – Singer, Musician
George Reeves – Actor
Frances Reid – Actress
Leni Riefenstahl – Filmmaker
Janet Reno – Former U.S. Attorney-General
Judith Resnick – Astronaut
Jennifer Rhodes – Actress
Condoleezza Rice – National Security Advisor
Cliff Richards – Musician
Miranda Richardson – Actress
Alan Rickman – Actor, Director
Elizabeth Riddell – Journalist
Sally Ride – First American Female Astronaut
Bridget Riley – Artist
John Ringling – Founder of Ringling Brothers Circus
Mary Roach - Author
Morgan Andrew Robertson – Author
Debbie Rochon – Actress
Norman Perceval Rockwell – Illustrator
Eric Rohmann – Author, Winner of the 2003 Caldecott Medal for Best Illustrated Children’s Book
Ginger Rogers – Actress
Richard Roeper – Film Reviewer, Chicago Sun-Times
Wilhelm Rontgen – Awarded the first Nobel Prize for Physics in 1901, discoverer of X-Rays
William Bruce Rose Jr. aka Axl Rose - Musician (Guns N' Roses)
Mickey Rourke – Actor, Boxer
Patricia Routledge – Actress
Joan Ruddock – Activist
John Ruskin – Author
Winona Ryder – Actress
Yves Saint-Laurent - Fashion Designer
Dr. Lee Salk – Child Psychologist
Renu Saluja – Indian Film Editor
Diana Sands – Actress
Aligi Sassu – Artist
John Sayles – Director
Jean-Paul Sartre – Existential Philosopher
Diane Sawyer – TV News Anchor
Rosika Schwimmer – Author, Activist
Ed and Thelma Schoenberger – Co-founders of the Indiana Flower & Patio Show
Ellen Browning Scripps – Newspaper Columnist, Philanthropist
Joel Schumacher – Film Director
Maurice Sendak – Children’s Book Author
George Bernard Shaw – Playwright
Lionel Shriver – Author
Sarah Silverman – Comedian, Actress
Michael Sinelnikoff – Actor
Siouxsie – Singer, Musician (Siouxsie and the Banshees)
Robert Smith – Singer, Musician (The Cure)
David Shogren – Bassist (Doobie Brothers)
Betty Smith – Author
Dodie Smith – Playwright, Author of The Hundred and One Dalmatians
Gladys Louise Smith aka Mary Pickford - Actress, Producer, Screenwriter, Businesswoman
Howard Worth Smith – Politician
Kate Smith – Singer
Lemony Snicket (Real Name: Daniel Handler) – Children’s Book Author
David Souter – Supreme Court Justice
Jill St. John – Actress
Mabel Stark – Female Tiger Trainer
Gertrude Stein – Author, Patron of the Arts
Victor Strauss – WWII Journalist
Gloria Steinem – Activist, Writer
Maria W. Stewart – Author, Activist
Lily Strickland – Composer, Writer, Artist
Patrick Swayze – Actor
Loretta Swit – Actress
Henrietta Szold – Holocaust Heroine
Wislawa Szymborska – Nobel Prize Winning Poet
Amy Tan - Writer, Author
Sara Teasdale – Poet
Toni Tennille – Singer (Captain and Tennille)
Princess María Teresa of Bourbon-Parma – French-Spanish Political Activist and Academic
Nikola Tesla – Scientist, Inventor
Theodora – Empress and wife of Justinian I
Susanna Thompson – Actress
Georgianne Thon – Actress
M. Carey Thomas – President of Bryn Mawr College
Willie Mae Thornton – Singer, Songwriter
Jennifer Tilly – Actress
Wendy Tokunaga – Author
Lily Tomlin – Actress, Playwright
Ann Turkel – Model
Randy Travis – Singer
Edward Tylor – Anthropologist
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Names "U - Z" will be in a comment below (the new additions put the list over the character limit).
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2020.04.06 14:37 KentuckyCandy TOP 100 PLAYERS OF THE LAST 30 YEARS

In a lockdown fuelled moment of complete boredom, I decided to list the Top 100 Nottingham Forest players of the last 30 years. Slightly arbitrary date, but that's when I first remember the team (I'm 35 now).
Only rules were they have to have played at least 10 games for the club (sorry Darren Huckerby and Hugo Porfirio) and the inclusion is based on their time at Forest, not at other clubs (so Dean Saunders, good player previously, dog shit at Forest. Andrew Cole, the same).
Here we go. There's some mildly controversial choices, I'm sure, but you have to remember we haven't been very good for about 25 years. Only omissions that might be worth a look are Paul Anderson, Gary Gardner (version 1.0), Marcus Tudgay, Terry Wilson, Kingsley Black? Fuck, the only decision is are they less shit than some of the inclusions.
I feel the list must be fairly definitive because I literally went through all the squads from 1990-91 onward and the 100th spot was filled by our current squad. No culling was required.
ADLENE GUEDIOURA
ALAN ROGERS
ALF-INGE HAALAND
ANDY JOHNSON
ANDY REID
BEN BRERETON
BEN OLSEN
BEN OSBORN
BILLY SHARP
BRIAN LAWS
BRICE SAMBA
BRITT ASSOMBALONGA
BRYAN ROY
CHRIS BART-WILLIAMS
CHRIS COHEN
CHRIS GUNTER
COLIN COOPER
DARREN WARD
DAVE BEASANT
DAVID JOHNSON
DAVID PHILLIPS
DAVID PRUTTON
DAVID VAUGHAN
DES LYTTLE
DES WALKER
DEXTER BLACKSTOCK
DORIUS DE VRIES
DOUGIE FREEDMAN
ERIC LICHAJ
FRANZ CARR
GARATH MCCLEARY
GARETH WILLIAMS
GARRY PARKER
GARY CHARLES
GARY CROSBY
GONZALO JARA
GRANT HOLT
GREG CUNNINGHAM
GUY MOUSSI
HENRI LANSBURY
IAN BRECKIN
IAN WOAN
JACK COLBACK
JACK HOBBS
JACK LESTER
JAMAAL LASCELLES
JAMES PERCH
JERMAINE JENAS
JIM BRENNAN
JOAO CARVALHO
JOE LOLLEY
JOE WORRALL
JOHN THOMPSON
JON OLAV HJELDE
JULIAN BENNETT
JUNIOR AGOGO
KARL DARLOW
KELVIN WILSON
KEVIN CAMPBELL
KIERAN DOWELL
KRIS COMMONS
LARS BOHINEN
LEE CAMP
LEWIS GRABBAN
LEWIS MCGUGAN
LUKE CHAMBERS
MARK CROSSLEY
MARLON HAREWOOD
MATTHIEU LOUIS-JEAN
MATTY CASH
MICHAEL DAWSON
MICHAIL ANTONIO
NATHAN TYSON
NEIL WEBB
NELSON OLIVEIRA
NIGEL CLOUGH
NIGEL JEMSON
OLIVER BURKE
PAUL GERRARD
PAUL MCKENNA
PIERRE VAN HOOIJDONK
RADOSLAW MAJEWSKI
RICCARDO SCIMECA
ROBERT EARNSHAW
ROY KEANE
RYAN BERTRAND
SAMBA SOW
SCOTT GEMMILL
STAN COLLYMORE
STERN JOHN
STEVE CHETTLE
STEVE HODGE
STEVE STONE
STEVE SUTTON
STUART PEARCE
TEDDY SHERINGHAM
THIERRY BONALAIR
TIAGO SILVA
TOBIAS FIGUEIREDO
WES MORGAN
Des Lyttle - lol.
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2020.04.04 03:38 Quirky-Motor EXTENSIVE write up on the case of Asha Degree part 1 of 2

The disappearance of Asha Degree
Hello everyone, a while ago I created an extensive summary of the DeOrr Kunz Jr. case (Link here-https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/fcmvmz/extensive_ summary_regarding_the_disappearance_of/) which many readers seemed to enjoy. Here is my attempt of doing a similar type write up for the case of Asha Degree, which is much more discussed online, but also much more convoluted due to the masses of information available.
I know some readers are rolling their eyes because this case is rather high profile and you may have read about it many, many times. However, I am hoping an extensive write up will be welcome here. In these two posts you will find a write up, a character breakdown, a timeline, and a list of cited sources.
Please read the disclaimer below BEFORE reading the write up as it contains some pertinent information about the case and the evidence.
For years the Wikipedia page on this case has reported some mistruths about the case which have slithered their way into everyone’s collective memory of this story. There are three particular pieces of evidence previously mentioned on the Wikipedia page that are at worst false, and at best completely unsubstantiated. I read every article listed as a source for the wiki page and found none of the information listed in the sources. Now if you have first-hand news reports which mentions this info and doesn’t cite the Wiki page, please by all means link them. I simply could not find them in my research. The Wikipedia page has now been updated to remove these pieces of evidence. If you want more information on this read another reddit write up here à https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6mqsdk/im_99_sure_wikipedia_lied_to_us_all_about_some/
Here are the three unsubstantiated evidence previously touted in this case
· Asha’s father Harold, left the house at 11:30 pm to buy valentine’s candy the night Asha disappeared. This is CONTESTED. This information comes from an ABC news segment in 2010. All articles which say this cite the wiki article which cites no one for this evidence. What we do know is that it is POSSIBLE Harold got off of work around 11:30 pm that night, and did not return until 12 midnight. Perhaps he bought valentines candy on the way home from work (pure speculation), but only one source (ABC video) claims he leaves the house at 11:30 and returned mysteriously 30 min later. I was informed by a reader that early articles don't say whether or not Harold went to work Sunday. The timeline is now updated with that info (Thanks u/JTigertail).
· Harold did not stay up late to wait for a heater to cool down. Again, this is unsubstantiated.
· Asha did not pack family photos the night she went missing. Again no first hand source says this. Asha packed some clothing, and a few other things such as a pencil and paper. She did not pack her family photos. If this happened there is NO source listed for this piece of information. All articles which say this cite the wiki article which cites no one for this evidence. She also most likely did not pack her basketball uniform, but two articles did mention the uniform mistakenly so I can understand the confusion there.
Description of Asha
Race- Black
Date of Birth 08/05/1990 (29 now)
Age at time last seen- 9 years old
Height and Weight- 4'6, 60-65 pounds
Clothing/Jewelry Description- Possibly a white shirt, white jeans and white sneakers.
Distinguishing Characteristics African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes. Asha may style her hair in pigtails. Her name is pronounced "Ay-sha."
The characters
Asha Degree- 9 years old at the time she went missing in 2000 from her bedroom in Shelby, North Carolina
O’Bryant Degree- Asha’s brother, ten years old at the time Asha went missing, shared a bedroom with Asha
Harold Degree- Asha’s father
Iquilla Degree (sometimes misprinted as Aquila)- Asha’s mother
Joanne Degree- Asha’s paternal grandmother
Kisha or Alisha Degree- Asha’s aunt on her father’s side
Chad Wilson- Asha’s basketball coach
Danny Ray Johnson- Child sex offender investigated for Asha’s disappearance, later cleared
Donald Ferguson- Child sex offender investigated for Asha’s disappearance, he has not been linked or cleared in Asha’s case
Barron Ramsey- Jailhouse informant who shared a story about Asha’s demise. LE does not think his story is legitimate.
Dan Crawford- Cleveland County Sheriff
Turner family- a family (and business Turner’s upholstery) who lives 1.5 miles from Asha. Some of Asha’s belongings were found on their property.
Background
Asha Jaquilla Degree was born in Shelby, North Carolina on August 5th 1990 to Harold and Iquilla Degree. The Degrees, who had been married for two years had given birth to a son named O’Bryant in 1989, making Asha their second and youngest child (LifeDaily article, 2018). O’Bryant and Asha were less than 12 months apart in age (The Star, February 9th, 2020).
In 2000 when Asha disappeared, Asha was described as a shy student who made good grades, and had nearly perfect attendance at school (The Star, 2008). Asha also played point guard on her peewee basketball team. It was her first-time playing team sports due to her shyness (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 28th 2000). Asha was active at church and the Degrees were lucky enough to live on the same street as Harold’s sister and mother.
In 2000, Asha’s father was a dock loader at PPG Industries Inc. in Shelby, and her mother, built pianos at Kawai America in Lincolnton (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 28th 2000). Harold typically worked second shift working from some time in the afternoon until 11:30 pm (The Star, 2008). Because the parents were at work during the day the Degree children let themselves into the house and worked on homework or visited relatives’ homes in the area until the parents returned home from work. Both kids had their own house keys (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 15th 2000). According to teachers, coaches, and relatives, Asha was a well-behaved girl who seemed content to live within the rules (The Star, 2008). Asha was scared of dogs because she disliked when they jumped on her. She was also “too shy” to try out for a solo in the church choir. Even team sports made Asha nervous, although she was playing basketball for the first time for her school in 2000 (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 28th 2000). Harold and Iquilla did not want their kids to be able to talk to strangers on the internet, so the Degrees did not have internet access or a computer at their home in order to protect their children.
THE DISAPPEARANCE
Friday February 11th
On Friday O’Bryant and Asha have the day off from school. Because both of their parents are working the siblings spend the day with their aunt, Harold’s sister. Harold’s sister, her husband, and their children live across the street from the Degrees. Harold’s mother also lives there. In the afternoon the siblings’ aunt took them both to basketball practice at Fallston Elementary school where both O’Bryant and Asha attend. According to Asha’s coach Chad Wilson, the practice was ordinary and Asha was acting like her typical self, laughing with the other girls. Both siblings go home after practice (The Star, 2008).
Note-This aunt is named Kisha or Alisha depending on the source which is why I only called her “aunt” above. Also, it is possible that Harold has two sisters accounting for this mix up in names in the media.
Saturday February 12th
The next day both siblings and Harold and Iquilla go to Burns Middle school for the children’s basketball games. The girls’ team plays first and lost their first game of the season by one point. Asha “fouled out” and blamed herself for her team losing the game. Iquilla said Asha and the other girls were all crying and were very disappointed. Asha said she was crying because her leg hurt but eventually, she was playing with her friends and watching her brother’s team play. Asha then admitted that her leg was actually fine and wasn’t hurt in the first place. Asha’s coach, Chad Wilson, reported that Asha was cheering on her brother and playing with her teammates during O’Bryant’s game. He also mentioned that like always both parents were at both games that day. After the games, the Degrees go home (The Star, 2008). Then Asha goes to her sleepover at her cousin’s house. (Presumably this is the same aunt and cousins house that is right across the street from the Degree’s home). Asha and her cousins stayed up late watching showtime at the Apollo and other things on the TV. According to her cousin Catina (aged 15 at time) who hosted the slumber party, over a dozen cousins and family members were sleeping over that day (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 15th 2000).
Sunday, February 13th - day time
The next morning, Asha’s aunt and grandmother take her and some of the other cousins to church as Macedonia Baptist church in Shelby where they meet up with the rest of Asha’s immediate family. According to Iquilla, Asha seemed like her normal happy self at church. After church the family left to Harold’s sister’s home to have lunch. There Joanne Degree, Asha’s grandmother, gave Asha a bag of Valentine’s day candy as a gift. The bag was mostly made up of cinnamon discs-Asha’s favorite candy. After this the Degree family returned home. The next day, Monday, was Valentine’s day as well as the Degrees’ 12th wedding anniversary (Charlotte Observer, February 14th, 2001)
Evening of February 13th - 2:30 am February 14th
*From here on out the timeline gets as very convoluted so stick with me\*
Harold POSSIBLY left for his shift sometime around three or four o’clock in the afternoon. If this is true he did not get off of work until 11:30 pm that evening. If he did not go to work the ABC article may be correct in saying that he left for candy at 11:30 pm because he was home. All articles saying Harold went to work that day are written after the fact. They are not original sources.
According to original sources for months after the fact this was the story told:
Asha apparently fell asleep on the couch at 6:30 pm still in her clothes. At 8:30 pm a storm hit the area waking her up. She then watched TV with her brother and mother in the den until 9 pm when Iquilla sent both O’Bryant and Asha to bed, just as the power was knocked out in the area. Harold arrived home from work at around 12 OR came back from his candy run at around 12 am. At 12:30 am,the power was restore and Harold checked on the kids to find them both asleep in their beds. He also says he checked on the kids again before he went to sleep at 2:30 am (Charlotte Observer, Shelby Star reports 2000-2001).
Subsequent interviews with Harold tell a slight variation on this story. Harold says that Asha fell asleep on the couch still in her clothes at 6:30 pm. At 10 pm the power went out in Shelby with Asha presumably still asleep on the couch. 12 am Harold finds Asha still asleep on the couch in the living room. He wakes her and tells her to go to bed. At 12:30 am he checks on the children and they are both in bed. He also says he checked on the children again before he went to sleep at 2:30 am (The Star February 15th, 2000).
Initial interviews from Iquilla tell a different story. She reports that she was at home with the kids. She claims that she put both kids to bed between 8 pm and 8:30 pm before the power went out around 9 pm (The Star, 2008). She doesn’t mention Asha falling asleep on the couch earlier, but of course that could have happened.
In later interviews Iquilla adds the weird fact about how she couldn’t bathe the kids at 8 or 8:30 pm because the power went out, even though the power went off at 9 pm - after this time frame (Jet interview, 2013).
Other reports still say that the power was out earlier in the evening and that the Degrees were using candle light for hours before the kids went to bed (WBTV, 2018). The Trace Evidence podcast found one report that the power went out as early as 6:30 or 7 pm however, I could not find this information. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f30w54xfxiI).
(It is important to note that the first stories in the media are all from Harold who was possibly at work at the time Asha went to sleep. Iquilla, who was home at the time, shared her story with the media several days after Harold did.)
O’Bryant’s story
According to the various Asha Degree blogs and the Charley project, O’Bryant, Asha’s brother woke up after Harold checked on the kids at 2:30 am to hear Asha’s bed squeak as if she was moving around or tossing and turning in her sleep (The Charley Project, 2004).
Other sources claim that at this time O’Bryant saw Asha get up and go to the bathroom, only later to hear the bed squeak. In this account O’Bryant thought the squeak was Asha returning from the bathroom (Finding Asha Degree Blog, 2017).
Other sources say that he simply saw Asha standing in their room before he went back to sleep (Hue and Cry, 2016).
I could find no first hand news stories in which O’Bryant told his own story and early news reports do not mention these details about O’Bryant’s memories of that night. Again, if you can find these news reports or an early interview with O’Bryant, please link them and let me know.
Here are the contested facts.
Here are the facts that have not changed.
Note- I am not sharing these conflicting stories as a way to say that the family is lying or guilty necessarily. I understand that stories and memories change, people get days mixed up, and trauma can make recalling events hard. I simply wanted the outline all the different stories to showcase the contradictory information available in this particular case.
Also, I realize that these discrepancies in time line may not really affect the story of Asha’s later disappearance. If we accept the typical story line that Asha left her house of her own accord after 3 am, it doesn’t not matter when she went to sleep that evening, however, in the name of being thorough I wanted to mention all reported stories.
2:30 am- end of day Monday February 14th, 2000
After Harold checked on the children for the final time, Asha presumably got up from her bed, put on a white pair of jeans, her white sneakers, and still wearing her white nighty or night shirt left the house with a packed black and beige bookbag and her Tweety Bird purse and left the house (Charlotte Observer, February 15th, 2000). According to Iquilla, a key was not needed to leave the house as the door would stay locked afterwards if it was opened from the inside (The Star February 15th, 2000). Asha had her own house key which she usually kept in her backpack. Asha did not bring a coat, or any other winter clothes with her (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000).
At 4:00 am, although he later says it could have been closer to 3:45 am, Jeff Ruppe, a trucker saw a person who he believes to be Asha Degree walking south on state highway 18. He describes the girl as a child, wearing a white dress, white sneakers and no coat. He also described her as wearing pigtails. It was such a strange sight he drove ahead to find a spot to turn around, turned around and saw Asha again. He describes Asha as walking at a good pace with her head down like she had a destination in mind. He turned around again this time hoping to talk to Asha, but when he rolled down his window, Asha ran into a wooded area off the road. The incident bothered Ruppe, the father of two young children, because he couldn’t imagine his own children walking around in the dark in the rain (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000).
Another trucker Roy Blanton and his son Roy Jr., saw someone matching Asha’s description briefly at about 4:30 am. Blanton and his son were truckers based out of North Carolina who regularly drove from Cleveland county to Chicago. Blanton described the person as a “very small figure wearing light colored clothing.” He then got on his CB radio and warned other truckers in the area to be careful as a young woman was walking on the road (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000).
At 5:45 am or 6:00 am Iquilla woke up. She usually got the kids up at 6:30 am to get them ready for school. She began to draw a bath for the kids and woke them up a little before 6:30 am. She went into the kids’ room and saw O’Bryant sleeping, but no Asha. Asha’s bed appeared slept in as it wasn’t made. Iquilla checked the family car, the closets, and every other room in the house. She woke up Harold around 6:35 am. She called Asha’s grandmother and aunt across the street but Asha wasn’t there. Iquilla then called her own mother who told her to hang up and call 911. Harold called 911 at 6:39 am (Shelby Star 911 call transcript, 2001). In the transcript Harold says the O’Bryant heard nothing during the night, although maybe they had not asked him specifically what he saw/heard at that time. You can also hear someone, probably Iquilla sobbing in the background.
Sheriff's deputies were on the scene by 6:41 am. Within one hour search dogs were deployed, but they found nothing. By noon a helicopter was brought in and 60 volunteers had gathered to search for Asha. During the first day, the searchers found nothing but a glove which was determined not to be Asha’s (The Star, 2000).
At around noon, Ruppe saw Asha’s story on the news and called police (Charlotte Observer, Feb. 15th, 2000). As darkness settled over Shelby, the search for Asha ceased for the night.
Tuesday February 15th
Searchers, including 60-100 volunteers, continue looking for Asha with an emphasis of on the area 1.3 miles south of Asha’s house where Ruppe last saw Asha. Investigators from neighboring counties are brought in and Asha’s family completes an inventory of Asha’s room. The family discovers that Asha left with her nightgown/nightshirt she was last seen wearing, a pair of light-colored blue jeans, a white long-sleeved shirt with purple lettering, and her white sneakers. She also took a black Tweety bird purse, and her black and beige book bag (Charlotte Observer, February 15th, 2000). O’Bryant told the media that Asha had won the purse in her class. Asha’s teacher would give students tokens for being good in class. Asha used her tokens to buy the Tweety bird purse at school only the week before she disappeared (Charlotte Observer, February 28th, 2000). Later reports mention other pieces of clothing Asha may have brought with her such as a pair of jeans with a red stripe, and a vest but these pieces are not mentioned in early sources (The Charley Project, 2004). Investigators determined that there was no forced entry into the house and that there was no evidence of a crime scene in the home.
The Turners, a family who lives about 1.5 miles south of the Degrees search their out buildings at the behest of law enforcement (all neighbors were asked to search their properties). The Turners found a wallet sized photo of a young girl along with some trash in an unused chicken shed. The Turners turned over the photo to the police, however, neither the Degrees or Fallston Elementary school officials recognized the photo. Because of this the Turners did not hand over the other various items in the shed thinking that they were unrelated, but they kept them just in case. (Charlotte Observer, February 18th, 2000). According to later interview with the Turners, authorities declined to take the other items initially, but came back for the items (candy wrappers, bow, pencil, pen) later (Charlotte Observer, February 24th, 2000).
During the evening hours of February 15th Roy Blanton (the second truck driver to see Asha) talked to his wife on the phone who told him about Asha’s story which she saw on the news (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000).
Wednesday February 16th
In the morning searchers continue looking for Asha, but the air search and helicopter are called off by 9 am. Law enforcement reports that the ground search will be called off the next day unless evidence is found to suggest Asha is still in the area. Cleveland county Sheriff's office announces that they believe that Asha was a victim of foul play. The police announce that they have three theories for Asha’s disappearance, 1) abduction 2) hit and run 3) Asha is hurt or lost in the area she went missing. They also announce that the parents are not considered suspects in Asha’s disappearance (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000). A nationwide bulletin is sent across the country for law enforcement agencies to be on the lookout for Asha (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000).
Sometime during the mid-afternoon, Roy Blanton contacts the police and shares his story (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000). Meanwhile, Jeff Ruppe (witness number 1) is brought back to the scene by law enforcement where he formally identifies the exact location where he witnessed Asha run off the road. By the evening, the FBI conducts a polygraph on Ruppe who passes. Law enforcement reports that they believe Ruppe is telling the truth. The area indicated by the witness is a field owned by a man named Charles Turner (Charlotte Observer, February 17th, 2000). This area becomes the new focus of the search.
Thursday February 17th
New life is breathed into the ground search as the area indicated by Ruppe becomes the focus of the investigation. A searcher doing an inch by inch search of the Turner property found a candy wrapper near the out building where the photo of the girl was found. When shown to the Turner family, they decided to hand over the “trash” they had previously found in the shed as it contained similar candy wrappers. The Turners handed over some cinnamon disc candy wrappers, a hair bow, a pen, and a pencil that said “ATLANTA.” The family recognized pencil as one Asha bought a year earlier during a family reunion in Atlanta. The other items were also hers and the wrappers matched the candy given to Asha on Sunday (Charlotte Observer, February 18th, 2000). All searchers move to this area to complete a thorough inch by inch search. According to Charles Turner Jr. and Sheriff Crawford all members of the Turner family as well as some of the neighbors are interviewed by police. Searchers find no more of Asha’s things in or near the shed. (Charlotte Observer, February 18th, 2000). According to the Turners as well as media reports the shed is filled with old furniture and equipment. It also had no door, so Asha could have simply stepped inside (Charlotte Observer, February 24th, 2000).
The shed where Asha’s things were found is located 600 feet from the road way. According to the Charlotte Observer on February 24th 2000, “To get there, Asha would have walked the length of two football fields uphill and crossed a 3-foot-deep gully. A light outside the shed may have guided her.”
Friday February 18th
By the 18th the hunt for Asha swells to 500 searchers with 100 people searching the area around the Turner shed. Rallie Turner, the woman who found the items in the shed, gives an interview to the media and describes the items she discovered. The candy wrappers were red, the pencil was white, and hair bow was a solid yellow plastic hair accessory with a teddy bear image. (The STAR, reports say it was a Micky Mouse hair bow). Connie Turner, Rallie’s sister in law, in a media interview describes the property as swarming with sheriff’s deputies and searchers all day (Charlotte Observer, February 19th, 2000). The temperature on February 18th dipped into the 40s casting doubt on the idea that Asha could still be alive if she was lost or injured outside. No additional evidence is recovered February the 18th.
February 19th- 20th
The search for Asha continues but no additional evidence is found. The ground search for Asha is called off on the evening of February 20th (Charlotte Observer, February 22th, 2000).
Asha’s classmates are interviewed according her to friends, on Thursday the 10th Asha had some money in her purse which she showed her friends. Asha’s parents tell LE they are unsure of where the money came from (The Star, February, 2000).
February 21st
At 3 am law enforcement sets up a road block to talk to the drivers who drive NC 18 in the early morning hours hoping to find other witnesses who saw Asha on Valentine’s day. The road block, which was up for three hours, found no additional witnesses or clues. (Charlotte Observer, February 22th, 2000). Although NC 18 is a rural road, 13,000 vehicles travel the roadway every day (Charlotte Observer, August 12th, 2001).
February 24th
Several days after the road block a citizen calls the sheriff’s office to inform them that Asha’s class is reading a book called “The Whipping Boy.” The book is a fictional story about two boys who run away from home and then return. The citizen thought that the story may have been the catalyst for Asha to run away (Charlotte Observer, February 24th, 2000).
A neighbor of the Turners is interviewed by the media. The man who owns the lot behind the Turners’ shed claims that he keeps 6 beagles in his yard (yes 6!), but on the night of Asha’s disappearance he did not hear the dogs barking.
Cleveland County Sheriff's department releases the photo of the girl found with Asha’s things in the shed hoping to generate more leads (Charlotte Observer, February 24th, 2000). This little girl has never been identified. You can see the photo here: https://i.imgur.com/lIFToZy.jpg
February 28th
Asha’s family is interviewed by the media. O’Bryant shares some stories about Asha and tells the story of Asha’s Tweety bird purse. He also tells the media that Asha’s favorite book series is the Horrible Harry series. He hopes to read those books with her again someday (Charlotte Observer, February 28th, 2000).
March 2000
By March 2000, Cleveland county Sheriff’s office continues to interview Asha’s family, friends, neighbors, and known sex offenders in the area (Charlotte Observer, March 14th, 2000).
Summer 2000- November 2000
Several months later, Barron Ramsey, an inmate at the local jail and former high school classmate of Iquilla, contacts the Sheriff's office. Ramsey claims that on the night Asha disappeared, he and another man were driving back to Shelby late at night after buying drugs in Hickory. While driving a pickup truck, the men hit Asha who was trying to cross the road. Ramsey’s friend put an unconscious Asha in the back of the truck, dropped Ramsey at home and then left with Asha still in the vehicle. Later Ramsey and his friend dumped Asha’s body in Moss lake. Law Enforcement does not believe this story as there was no evidence of a hit and run on highway 18. Additionally, Moss lake was dragged twice and searched by divers who found nothing. According to some blogs, early on in the investigation LE dismissed the idea of a hit and run because they found no blood, skid marks, or paint chips near where Asha was last seen (Finding Asha Degree blog, 2015). I could not find this information in any first hand sources, however.
At the time of this confession Ramsey is facing federal charges for bank robbery and LE believes his story about Asha was intended to get him a plea deal. LE has publicly admitted that after several months of investigation into Ramsey’s story they do not believe his story to be true. No evidence could be found in Moss lake (Charlotte Observer, February 14th, 2001). The Degrees do not believe Ramsey’s story is true.
Winter 2000- February 14th 2001 (1st anniversary of Asha’s disappearance)
Throughout the rest of the calendar year, articles are published regularly about Asha’s case and the anniversary of her disappearance brings on a slew of articles but no new information. In two anniversary articles it is mistakenly printed that Asha packed her basketball uniform in her book bag (Charlotte Observer, February 14th, 2001). This information is not substantiated and the uniform does not appear in the FBI's official list of what Asha packed (internet search FBI Asha Degree- there is a whole page of information). Despite this, many people still believe to this day that Asha packed her basketball uniform. Most later articles by the same paper (Charlotte Observer) do not list the uniform as being in Asha’s backpack, but still many believe Asha brought her uniform with her on that cold, rainy night.
August 5th 2001- Book bag found
In early August 2001, reports begin to surface about a book bag found in Burke County on Friday August 3rd that may be Asha’s (Charlotte Observer, August 6th, 2001).
August 7th 2001
On August 7th 2000, LE confirms that the bag found in Burke County is Asha’s. Asha’s name and address were written inside the book bag. The bag was located 6 miles south of Morganton and 40 miles north of where Asha was last seen*. It appears to have been discarded months previously. This location was in the opposite direction of where Asha was seen walking. Terry Fleming, a construction worker building a driveway found the black and beige bag double wrapped in plastic bags on Friday, August 3rd while clearing land to build a driveway. The bag was located between the roadway (NC 18) and a creek.
Cadaver dogs are brought in to search the area but they find nothing. The backpack and its contents are sent to the FBI for analysis (Charlotte Observer, August 6th, 2001). The backpack contains clothing, a piece of paper, and a pencil case, although later reports would say the bag contained only clothing.
*Note- although Morganton and Shelby are 40 miles apart, the place where Asha’s backpack was discovered was only 26 miles from where Asha was last seen. Both distances are reported in the media.
August 11th
LE organizes another search for Asha using trained searchers, rather than members of the public on August 11th, 2001. Witness and family are re interviewed in hopes of finding more clues. Crawford tells the press that 99.9%, but not all, of what was in the bag was Asha’s. (Charlotte Observer, August 11th, 2001)
August 16th
The search for Asha continues in the area where her bag was found. Billy Benton, a sheriff’s captain, mentions that they are specifically searching for the clothes Asha went missing in: white sneakers, light colored jeans, and a light-colored night shirt, as well as possible grave sites but nothing is found. (Charlotte Observer, August 11th, 2001)
July 2003
FBI completes testing on Asha’s book bag. Results are not released to the public (The Star, 2003).
September 11th 2003
Danny Ray Johnson is arrested for the rape of a girl near Asha’s age. Johnson and his brother live near the site where Asha’s book bag was found. Both brothers deny involvement in Asha’s case, and give DNA samples. Later it is determined that both brothers have alibis for time of Asha’s disappearance. Both were incarcerated at the time. (Charlotte Observer, September 11th, 2001).
November 2004
Acting on a tip off from a man in prison, investigators conduct an excavation at the corner of Shelby and Rube Spangler Rd. near Lawndale, North Carolina. LE finds animal bones and a pair of men’s khaki trousers, but no Asha (Charlotte Observer, Nov. 10, 2004).
January 2014
US Marshalls arrest Donald Ferguson for the 1990 murder of Shalonda Poole. Shalonda’s case has striking similarities to Asha’s case and for many Ferguson is the prime suspect in Asha’s disappearance. No definitive evidence links Ferguson to Asha’s disappearance (True Crime Articles, 2019). Here is a link about Shalonda’s murder à https://myfox8.com/news/arrest-made-in-1990-rape-murder-of-seven-year-old-shalonda-poole/
2016
Two years later, the FBI releases new information generated from a 2015 re-investigation. Tipsters said they may have seen Asha getting into a green 1970's model Ford Thunderbird or Lincoln Mark IV with rust around the wheel wells. The FBI publicly announced the potential lead in 2016 and released images of the vehicle models (FBI.gov, 2020). The FBI says that they are looking for anyone who knew someone with that car. According to the Sheriff’s department, the car is a vehicle of interest and which was occupied twice the night Asha disappeared (WBTV, 2016).
2018
FBI team reevaluates the case and conducts 300 interviews (WBTV, 2018).
The FBI releases 2 new pieces of evidence. Inside Asha’s bag was a concert T-shirt featuring boy band New Kids On The Block and a children’s book, McElligot’s Pool, by Dr. Seuss. Neither belonged to Asha, though the book was from the library at Asha’s school, Fallston Elementary. Investigators released images of the shirt and book in 2018, hoping to jog the memories of people who may have helpful information (FBI.gov, 2020).
The Degrees hold a memorial walk every February to keep Asha’s case in the spot light. A $45,000 reward is offered for information in Asha’s case (The Star, February 9th, 2020). It has now been 20 years since Shelby’s Sweetheart was last seen, but Asha Degree remains missing.
Other important things
Asha was seen walking south on highway 18, away from her school. According to several blogs, Asha’s bus route took highway 18 (finding Asha Degree, Shreyasolves.com, MysteriYES podcast). But according to google maps, Asha’s school was north of her home on highway 18, not south. These websites do not have first hand sources cited so take this info with a grain of salt.
As mentioned above, Asha did not take her basketball uniform, or pictures of her family with her the night of her disappearance. Harold did not leave the home to buy candy at 11:30 pm, and he did not wait up for a heater to cool off.
The Turner shed was not easily accessible from the roadway, it was over 600 feet away, uphill, and across a three-foot gully.
Asha’s backpack was found in the opposite direction (north) from where she was last seen walking (south).
Neither Harold or Iquilla have criminal records and I could find no reports of abuse or neglect in the household. Asha’s teachers and coaches reported that the Degrees were very involved parents.
Neither the FBI or the Cleveland Co. Sheriff’s department consider Asha’s parents suspects, which is surprising in a case like this.
According to the NCMEC, Asha does not fit the profile of a typical runaway child.
Questions
Why did Asha leave her home on the night of February 14th, 2000? Was she groomed by someone she knew? Was she meeting someone? Did she want to go on an adventure? Or was she running away from something in her own home?
Was this really the first time Asha had left her home?
Why did she pack a bag of things to take with her?
Who is the little girl in the photo? Is the photo even related?
Who/why was Asha’s bag buried 26 miles away at a construction site?
Why was her bag wrapped up?
Is Asha’s case related to the case of Shalonda Poole, another girl who went missing from a bedroom she shared with a sibling?
Also, I wanted to share something my mom said when I was discussing this case with her. My mom asked if Asha was actually in possession of her house key the night she disappeared. She wondered if Asha had had her key stolen out of her backpack in the several days before she went missing by someone with ill intentions from school, basketball, or church. She even mulled over the possibility that Asha gave the house key to someone she trusted so they could “visit” her. I understand that this is not a super likely scenario but it was not one I have even seen online so I thought it was worth mentioning.
Special thanks to:
https://www.wbtv.com/story/32060748/fbi-asha-degree-may-have-gotten-into-a-dark-green-car-on-night-of-disappearance/
https://www.scribd.com/document/400300184/AshDeg
http://charleyproject.org/case/asha-jaquilla-degree
https://web.archive.org/web/20000818061104/http://www.shelbystar.com:80/news/asha/asha10.html
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/20th-anniversary-of-asha-degree-disappearance-021420
https://web.archive.org/web/20080726175918/http://www.shelbystar.com/news/asha_28858___article.html/county_name.html
https://www.gastongazette.com/news/20200209/asha-degree-remembered-two-decades-after-disappearance
https://findingashadegree.wordpress.com/ https://thehueandcry.com/asha-degree/
https://www.lifedaily.com/story/fbi-continues-their-search-for-missing-girl-of-18-years/
Jet Magazine Interview with Iquilla (no longer online)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Asha_Degree (has links to many local archived newspaper articles).
https://myfox8.com/news/arrest-made-in-1990-rape-murder-of-seven-year-old-shalonda-poole/
If you have other case suggestions for a similar type write up, comment those below. Timeline is done and will be posted tonight.
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BILLIE EILISH was the young sensation of the 2020s. Her rise to fame at the tender age of 17 propelled her to international renown by 19. The wealth and glamour was, however, not exactly kind to Billie. Sex, hard drugs, and the stress of leading a career under constant limelight aged the girl 60 years by the time she was in her 40s. Eilish, however, never fell too deep. She was always able to pick herself up and kept a generally positive public image.
Increasingly religiously-motivated lyrics, in her later work, captured the attention of Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, now King Speedwagon of Saudi Arabia. The two began to have a secret relationship, with the blasphemous nature of Eilish's life entirely unfit for the Islamist regime in Saudi Arabia. Speedwagon, however, being king, is ready to take the relationship public.
BILLIE EILISH disembarks a private jet on SPEEDWAGON's private airstrip, outside Riyadh.
EILISH: Fuck it's good to be back here.
SPEEDWAGON sets down his meth pipe, and approaches the startlet as she drops her bags. The two embrace.
SPEEDWAGON: I missed you so much, baby. I really did. I want you to move here. This long distance thing isn't working.
EILISH: I know, I want to, but you're in deep ever since the paper caught you chugging tequila. That's not a good look.
SPEEDWAGON: It was tough to keep that one under the rug. Lotsa hush money. Maybe a blowjob or two. Fuck, make sure you do that shit in private.
EILISH: Blowjobs?
SPEEDWAGON interrupts Eilish's inquisitive nature with a passionate french kiss. Lots of tongue was involved.
EILISH: Okay, fine, fine. I'll move here. We'll make it public. I can't stand it either, living in California, fucking my brother so the media hops off my dick. Just don't make me wear one of those burk-ee Muslim things. That's not my style.

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2019.11.15 06:08 falconbox Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Review Thread

Game Information

Game Title: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Platforms:
Trailers:
Developers: Respawn Entertainment, Electronic Arts
Review Aggregator:
OpenCritic - 83 average - 89% recommended - 88 reviews

Critic Reviews

Areajugones - Antonio Vallejo.T - Spanish - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the game that all fans have been waiting for almost a decade. The battle system, movement and metroidvania elements, as well as the simplicity with which it executes all of its departments, allow this game to be a very enjoyable one for the audience. Nevertheless, its short story, which also lacks depth, may stir trouble for some. Still, just because of the combination of exploration and art we can guarantee that this game will make it worth your while.
Ars Technica - Sam Machkovech - Unscored
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has incredibly good elements, and they play out exceptionally well in its first three hours. Force-power diversity, combat animations, beautiful opening zones, clever puzzles, and Jedi-salvation stakes could lead anybody to believe they were in for a Star Wars single-player epic worth investing in.
The trouble is, the game begins to run on fumes after those three hours.
Atomix - Alberto Desfassiaux - Spanish - 90 / 100
I do not know we are facing the best game with "Star Wars" in its name. What I am sure of is that Electronic Arts is finally delivering a worthy game and that it meets not only what fans of this franchise are waiting for, but what every consumer anticipates when paying for an AAA game in 2019.
Attack of the Fanboy - Brandon Adams - 4 / 5 stars
Respawn did nothing to reinvent the wheel, but instead married a bunch of popular gameplay genres together into a cohesive whole, wrapped up in well-crafted Star Wars story. It may not be KOTOR levels of greatness, but it’s good.
AusGamers - Steve Farrelly - 8 / 10
the story here is classic Star Wars. The characters are infectious, and the planet-hopping and Metroidvania game design, once you’ve gained most of your base abilities, is fun and rewarding.
CGMagazine - Zubi Khan - 8.5 / 10
Beside a few nagging puzzles and backtracking sequences, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an excellent game, both for fans of action-adventure titles and of course, fans of games set in galaxies, far far away.
COGconnected - Garrett Drake - 90 / 100
I love Star Wars, I love video games, and Fallen Order is a glorious amalgamation of the two.
Cerealkillerz - Julian Bieder - German - 9 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order is guilty of borrowing loads of already established gameplay elements from other titles, but blends them together almost seamlessly. It gets accompanied with an intruiging story and colourful characters, making it the game Star Wars fans were yearning for. If only they left out those pesky sliding passages...
Cheat Code Central - Lucas White - 4 / 5
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a big, sloppy hodgepodge of AAA video game tropes, nerdy Star Wars stuff, and unearned blockbuster drama.
Critical Hit - Brad Lang - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an ambitious exploration of the Star Wars universe that succeeds in delivering both compelling combat and characters, even if it suffers from tedious exploration mechanics and a lack of polish.
Cultured Vultures - Billy Givens - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order suffers from some annoying pacing issues, but the attention to detail and fundamentally solid gameplay makes it the best Star Wars game in over a decade.
Daily Dot - AJ Moser - 4.5 / 5 stars
While this is a fantastic game on its own merits, it also stands as a towering achievement in Star Wars storytelling. I can’t wait to see what’s next for this spinoff and these characters. Fallen Order walks in to a crowded universe with big, unique goals and far surpasses the standard for Star Wars games.
Daily Mirror - Matthew Osborn - 4 / 5 stars
Overall, the game's core is satisfying - the more you play it the more you will want to continue slicing your way through the empire using your lightsaber or even throwing them off ledges with the Force.
Daily Star - Ben Walker - 4 / 5 stars
Fallen Order is a game with intricate and satisfying combat – some of the best we've ever seen in a Star Wars game. But Respawn relies on that as a selling point, and focuses less on creating a polished experience.
Destructoid - Chris Carter - 8 / 10
You're going to occasionally roll your eyes at a cheesy moment or groan at a technical issue, but Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order stands alone as an action game devoid of its Star Wars influence. If you grin at the mere mention of the phrase "kyber crystals," you'll get even more out of it.
Digital Chumps - Alex Tudor - 9 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order mixes the magic of Star Wars with the stellar combat gameplay mechanics Respawn can provide. It's both challenging and exhilarating. Technical issues and minor graphical bugs plague what is otherwise the best Star Wars game in over two decades.
DualShockers - Chris Compendio - 8 / 10
A magnificent blend of genres makes Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order a solid game, but technical hitches prevent it from taking the high ground.
EGM - Michael Goroff - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has its heart in the right place, delivering that Star Wars fantasy that is sure to please fans of the franchise. But putting aside the lightsabers and Wookiees, Fallen Order is too often unsuccessful in implementing ideas from better games, and ends up seeming like a pale imitation in comparison.
Easy Allies - Brad Ellis - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a fantastic title and stands as one of the best Star Wars games yet.
Eurogamer - Emma Kent - No Recommendation / Blank
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order initially delivers well-paced combat and unique environments, but unravels into a tedious and repetitive slog.
Everyeye.it - Gabriele Laurino - Italian - 8.3 / 10
The journey of Cal Kestis could be the beginning of a revival cycle for the Star Wars franchise in gaming
Explosion Network - Dylan Blight - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the equivalent of Rey and Finn discussing Han Solo in The Force Awakens. Two people with different ideas and stories about who he is. Fallen Order is a very mixed bag of ideas seemingly pulled from various members at Respawn Entertainment that have completely different ideas about what makes a good Jedi game and unable to settle on a singular and unique vision.
GRYOnline.pl - Dariusz Matusiak - Polish - 8.5 / 10
Despite minor technical issues and sometimes underwhelming graphics, I had lots of fun. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order was a trip down the memory lane; to the times when I played the best Star Wars games for the very first time. Respawn Entertainment can easily put their game on the same shelf as Jedi Outcast. The Force is strong with this one!
Game Informer - Andrew Reiner - 8.8 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order tells a new Star Wars story and takes players to new places. It sits nicely alongside the Rebels and Resistance TV shows, which also dare to be different
Game Rant - Denny Connolly - 4.5 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Empire combines puzzle-solving, exploration, and combat to deliver one of the most ambitious single-player Star Wars games ever.
Game Revolution - Jason Faulkner - 4 / 5 stars
Jedi Fallen Order isn’t perfect, but it’s a step in the right direction. The critical factor with this game is that it taps into that sense of adventure that Star Wars instills in fans.
GameCrate - Quibian Salazar-Moreno - 9.3 / 10
For those of you pleading for a good Star Wars game, it's finally here. No lootboxes, no microtransactions, just an action-packed adventure in a galaxy far, far away.
GamePro - Maximilian Franke - German - 85 / 100
Jedi: Fallen Order does not reinvent Star Wars. What it does, it makes it really good. The story, though, could be bolder.
GameSkinny - Jonny Foster - 8 / 10 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has some technical issues and poor pacing but is still an amazing single-player Star Wars game.
GameSpace - Damien Gula - 9 / 10
If you are looking for a quintessential Star Wars experience that does not outright saddle you with power, but makes you take the journey to earn and respect that power, Jedi: Fallen Order is worth the time spent in a galaxy far, far away.
GameSpew - Richard Seagrave - 8 / 10
The Force is strong with Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, but sometimes glimpses of the dark side seep through.
GameSpot - Phil Hornshaw - 8 / 10
Respawn Entertainment's foray into the Star Wars universe balances Force powers with tough difficulty to make the best Jedi game in years.
Gameblog - Jonathan Bushle - French - 8 / 10
Star Wars : Jedi Fallen Order Order is a very good game with a lot of well managed influences (Metroid, Tomb Raider, Uncharted or Sekiro). This is the game Star Wars fans are looking for
Gamers Heroes - Johnny Hurricane - 100 / 100
Much like what Arkham Asylum did for Batman games, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order sets the new standard for Star Wars titles. Not only is it a great Star Wars game, it is also the best game of the year.
Gamersky - 心灵奇兵 - Chinese - 8.2 / 10
Although lacking in innovation, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the best Star Wars game of all time.
GamesBeat - Jeff Grubb - 93 / 100
It is the kind of achievement that is only possible when one of the best developers in the world puts all of its might into making something special. And I hope we get more just like it in the future.
GamesRadar+ - Ben Tyrer - 4 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order might take ideas liberally from others, but the result is an endearing adventure that ranks as EA's best Star Wars effort yet.
GamingBolt - Will Borger - 8 / 10
Respawn's latest combines strong level design, excellent puzzles, compelling platforming, great combat, gorgeous visuals, and a fun story to make the best Star Wars game in over a decade.
GamingTrend - Ron Burke - 95 / 100
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an absolute masterpiece. Well paced, written, and executed, the game is Respawn's best thus far.
Generación Xbox - Desirée Clary - Spanish - 8.9 / 10
STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order is the galactic adventure that fans of the series have been waiting for so long. With a balanced pace and a very measured gameplay for combat, puzzles and platforms, the title knows how to tell a story within the canon that catches from the first moment.
Giant Bomb - Brad Shoemaker - 3 / 5 stars
Jedi: Fallen Order is both one of the best Star Wars games to date and distressingly unrefined.
Glitched Africa - Marco Cocomello - 8.5 / 10
The game may have some clunky moments where the combat just feels unpolished and Cal’s jumping is a bit off, but this can all be forgiven when you realize this is the story-driven Star Wars game we have been asking for.
God is a Geek - Chris White - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is filled with wonderful combat, great visuals, and a decent story, but the technical issues are too prominent to ignore.
Guardian - Oliver Holmes - 4 / 5 stars
With its satisfyingly challenging lightsaber combat and on-brand recreation of the Star Wars galaxy, this is the game fans have been waiting for
Hobby Consolas - David Martinez - Spanish - 90 / 100
Jedi Fallen Order is the game every Star Wars fan has been waiting for. Its level design, exploration and combat mechanics are great, and so is the use of the license. Sadly it is short (from 6 to 10 hours) and graphics feel a bit outdated.
IGN - Dan Stapleton - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order makes up for a lot of lost time with a fantastic single-player action-adventure that marks the return of the playable Jedi.
IGN Italy - Giovanni Marrelli - Italian - 8.2 / 10
A great action game that really shines in its combat mechanics and use of Force powers. If you love Star Wars and can't wait to restore the Jedi Order, then you will definitely enjoy Cal's journey, otherwise you could be disappointed by a game that, despite a fun gameplay, is not supported by a compelling story or unforgettable characters.
IGN Middle East - Mohamed Shorby - Arabic - 8.5 / 10
The Jedi Fallen Order is the perfect Star Wars game that fans had hoped for so many years.
IGN Spain - David Soriano - Spanish - 8.1 / 10
The new Star Wars game puts us in the shoes of a young Padawan who will have to survive after the execution of Order 66 in a mixture of various genres and mechanics that causes that we have liked it more for his galactic ambientantion than his own gameplay merits.
Impulsegamer - Tony Smith - 4.4 / 5
Even so, it is the single-player game that many Star Wars fans wanted and developers Respawn should be commended on successfully revitalising the franchise again and let’s hope this becomes a yearly event.
Kotaku - Joshua Rivera - Unscored
Taken as a whole, Jedi: Fallen Order brings a very familiar concept to the world of Star Wars video games: balance.
LevelUp - Víctor Rosas - Spanish - 9 / 10
Star Wars has found redemption in Respawn Entertainment. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is without doubt, one of the best Star Wars titles in recent memory, and already has a place in the history of Star War's video games. Respawn Entertainment succeeded and was the chosen one who brought the balance to the Force.
MMORPG.com - Garrick D. Raley - 9 / 10
There are so many aspects of Jedi: Fallen Order that I loved, and I hope we get to see more from Respawn in the future. For now, I think this is the Star Wars game I’ve been looking for.
Metro GameCentral - 7 / 10
An earnest attempt to create the ultimate Jedi simulator but the mishmash of game influences and an unengaging story leaves it only impacting on the surface.
Nexus - Robert de Wit - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order delivers a magnificent Star Wars experience that lives up to so many expectations, and then some. The marvelous blend and execution of platforming, challenging combat, and developed characters woven into a singular adventure is simply mesmerizing.
Noisy Pixel - Azario Lopez - 9.5 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the best single-player adventure that I have played in a very long time. The brilliant narrative that Respawn has created in the Star Wars universe is paired with excellent gameplay mechanics and level design.
PC Invasion - Tim McDonald - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order certainly tries, but as Yoda pointed out, you either do or do not. For the most part, it does -- but without the grace or precision of a full-fledged Jedi Knight. The apprentice is not yet the master.
PCGamesN - Richard Scott-Jones - 8 / 10
Gameplay is rock solid from the start and only gains depth, giving a real sense of transformation into a Jedi badass. Respawn has also nailed the Star Wars universe, both good (sights, sounds, and cinematic flair) and bad (cringey dialogue and vacuous plot).
PCWorld - Hayden Dingman - 4 / 5 stars
Jedi: Fallen Order borrows liberally from other games, but a strong supporting cast, clever level design, and a cute little droid companion make Respawn's Star Wars story more than the sum of its parts.
PlayStation Universe - John-Paul Jones - 9 / 10
A thrilling marriage of Uncharted, Dark Souls and Metroid, a few technical hiccups aren't nearly enough to derail the best Star Wars game in years. Rewarded, your patience has been.
Polygon - Ben Kuchera - Unscored
Jedi: Fallen Order is a flawed, sometimes messy game, but it’s a Star Wars experience I didn’t know I wanted. And after finishing it, I definitely want more.
Post Arcade (National Post) - Chad Sapieha - 7 / 10
Respawn's first take on that galaxy far, far away could have used a little more gestation before being unleashed on players
PowerUp! - James Wood - 6 / 10
There are pockets of joy and engagement in Fallen Order, but ultimately it feels like a game developed a long time ago, before Star Wars moved on to brighter galaxies far, far away from this.
Press Start - James Mitchell - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the Star Wars game fans have been waiting for. It brings together a strong story, addictive combat and an earnest dedication to recreating that Star Wars magic to offer one of the best Star Wars games in over a decade. It’s an experience that any Star Wars fan can’t afford to miss.
Push Square - Liam Croft - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is one of the very best games of 2019. Its engaging gameplay loops may have been lifted from other titles, but it's during combat where the game really shines with enjoyable lightsaber duels and numerous abilities that keep things fresh. Backed by a narrative that will bring delight to the Star Wars faithful, its wonderful main plot and referential nature makes the title an essential playthrough for anyone in tune with the force.
Rock, Paper, Shotgun - Brendan Caldwell - Unscored
Its saving virtue is that it is a right biggo, a thoughtless blast of blockbuster ‘splosions, a popcorn game, the grand kahuna you can point to when some bore starts burping on about how single player is dead
Shacknews - Sam Chandler - 7 / 10
While Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has some exciting combat and moments of genuinely interesting storytelling and acting, it just falls short of hitting the mark. It borrows heavily from several genres without actually adding anything new to the conversation. That’s not to say it’s bad, it just didn’t leave me wanting to revisit this galaxy.
Sirus Gaming - Lexuzze Tablante - 9.5 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order wasn’t dull or lackluster, there were big surprises that pushed me back from my seat, tons of memorable moments, the combat was definitely fulfilling, and it stayed loyal to its source material. While it’s not a technical marvel, I’ve never had this level of fun in any video game this year and I’m certainly glad that Respawn Entertainment delivered one of the greatest Star Wars games in history.
Spaziogames - Domenico Musicò - Italian - 8.8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is indubitably one of the best Star Wars Games. Under the guide of Stig Asmussen, Respawn has created a solid action-adventure game and an exciting original story that fits perfectly in the series universe.
Spiel Times - Caleb Wysor - 7 / 10
For all of the delightful combat, fun puzzles, and great narrative moments, Fallen Order is still marred by derivative action, frustrating navigation, and technical issues that prevent it from taking its place alongside Jedi Outcast and Knights of the Old Republic as one of the all-time great Star Wars games.
Stevivor - Ben Salter - 9 / 10
It’s the blend of all these elements that makes Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order the gripping single-player Star Wars game we have been waiting for all generation. Challenging combat is broken up by platforming and exploration, and it’s all held together by a narrative I genuinely cared about. On their own, none of these elements are going to win awards and are all done better elsewhere, but as a package they form something exciting — much like the Star Wars films.
The Digital Fix - Lloyd Coombes - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a beautiful monster, with the best bits of multiple games stapled together to make a fun, if occasionally frustrating, action game in the Star Wars universe.
TheSixthAxis - Jim Hargreaves - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is exactly the kind of single player game we had originally hoped to see when EA and Disney joined forces. Even if you strip away the license, you're left with a super satisfying mix or combat, story, and exploration, deftly crafted by a studio best known for spearheading an entirely different genre.
TrustedReviews - Adam Speight - 4 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is far from a masterpiece, but to say it could’ve been one without some of its basic flaws may not be so far fetched.
Twinfinite - Chris Jecks - 4 / 5
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the Star Wars game that fans have been crying out for years now. While it doesn’t do anything new, its clear inspirations from Dark Souls and Tomb Raider have helped to create an epic, sprawling adventure that’ll have you ready for more the moment
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2019.11.15 06:05 falconbox Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Review Thread

Game Information

Game Title: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Platforms:
Trailers:
Developers: Respawn Entertainment, Electronic Arts
Review Aggregator:
OpenCritic - 83 average - 89% recommended - 88 reviews

Critic Reviews

Areajugones - Antonio Vallejo.T - Spanish - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the game that all fans have been waiting for almost a decade. The battle system, movement and metroidvania elements, as well as the simplicity with which it executes all of its departments, allow this game to be a very enjoyable one for the audience. Nevertheless, its short story, which also lacks depth, may stir trouble for some. Still, just because of the combination of exploration and art we can guarantee that this game will make it worth your while.
Ars Technica - Sam Machkovech - Unscored
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has incredibly good elements, and they play out exceptionally well in its first three hours. Force-power diversity, combat animations, beautiful opening zones, clever puzzles, and Jedi-salvation stakes could lead anybody to believe they were in for a Star Wars single-player epic worth investing in.
The trouble is, the game begins to run on fumes after those three hours.
Atomix - Alberto Desfassiaux - Spanish - 90 / 100
I do not know we are facing the best game with "Star Wars" in its name. What I am sure of is that Electronic Arts is finally delivering a worthy game and that it meets not only what fans of this franchise are waiting for, but what every consumer anticipates when paying for an AAA game in 2019.
Attack of the Fanboy - Brandon Adams - 4 / 5 stars
Respawn did nothing to reinvent the wheel, but instead married a bunch of popular gameplay genres together into a cohesive whole, wrapped up in well-crafted Star Wars story. It may not be KOTOR levels of greatness, but it’s good.
AusGamers - Steve Farrelly - 8 / 10
the story here is classic Star Wars. The characters are infectious, and the planet-hopping and Metroidvania game design, once you’ve gained most of your base abilities, is fun and rewarding.
CGMagazine - Zubi Khan - 8.5 / 10
Beside a few nagging puzzles and backtracking sequences, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an excellent game, both for fans of action-adventure titles and of course, fans of games set in galaxies, far far away.
COGconnected - Garrett Drake - 90 / 100
I love Star Wars, I love video games, and Fallen Order is a glorious amalgamation of the two.
Cerealkillerz - Julian Bieder - German - 9 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order is guilty of borrowing loads of already established gameplay elements from other titles, but blends them together almost seamlessly. It gets accompanied with an intruiging story and colourful characters, making it the game Star Wars fans were yearning for. If only they left out those pesky sliding passages...
Cheat Code Central - Lucas White - 4 / 5
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a big, sloppy hodgepodge of AAA video game tropes, nerdy Star Wars stuff, and unearned blockbuster drama.
Critical Hit - Brad Lang - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an ambitious exploration of the Star Wars universe that succeeds in delivering both compelling combat and characters, even if it suffers from tedious exploration mechanics and a lack of polish.
Cultured Vultures - Billy Givens - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order suffers from some annoying pacing issues, but the attention to detail and fundamentally solid gameplay makes it the best Star Wars game in over a decade.
Daily Dot - AJ Moser - 4.5 / 5 stars
While this is a fantastic game on its own merits, it also stands as a towering achievement in Star Wars storytelling. I can’t wait to see what’s next for this spinoff and these characters. Fallen Order walks in to a crowded universe with big, unique goals and far surpasses the standard for Star Wars games.
Daily Mirror - Matthew Osborn - 4 / 5 stars
Overall, the game's core is satisfying - the more you play it the more you will want to continue slicing your way through the empire using your lightsaber or even throwing them off ledges with the Force.
Daily Star - Ben Walker - 4 / 5 stars
Fallen Order is a game with intricate and satisfying combat – some of the best we've ever seen in a Star Wars game. But Respawn relies on that as a selling point, and focuses less on creating a polished experience.
Destructoid - Chris Carter - 8 / 10
You're going to occasionally roll your eyes at a cheesy moment or groan at a technical issue, but Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order stands alone as an action game devoid of its Star Wars influence. If you grin at the mere mention of the phrase "kyber crystals," you'll get even more out of it.
Digital Chumps - Alex Tudor - 9 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order mixes the magic of Star Wars with the stellar combat gameplay mechanics Respawn can provide. It's both challenging and exhilarating. Technical issues and minor graphical bugs plague what is otherwise the best Star Wars game in over two decades.
DualShockers - Chris Compendio - 8 / 10
A magnificent blend of genres makes Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order a solid game, but technical hitches prevent it from taking the high ground.
EGM - Michael Goroff - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has its heart in the right place, delivering that Star Wars fantasy that is sure to please fans of the franchise. But putting aside the lightsabers and Wookiees, Fallen Order is too often unsuccessful in implementing ideas from better games, and ends up seeming like a pale imitation in comparison.
Easy Allies - Brad Ellis - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a fantastic title and stands as one of the best Star Wars games yet.
Eurogamer - Emma Kent - No Recommendation / Blank
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order initially delivers well-paced combat and unique environments, but unravels into a tedious and repetitive slog.
Everyeye.it - Gabriele Laurino - Italian - 8.3 / 10
The journey of Cal Kestis could be the beginning of a revival cycle for the Star Wars franchise in gaming
Explosion Network - Dylan Blight - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the equivalent of Rey and Finn discussing Han Solo in The Force Awakens. Two people with different ideas and stories about who he is. Fallen Order is a very mixed bag of ideas seemingly pulled from various members at Respawn Entertainment that have completely different ideas about what makes a good Jedi game and unable to settle on a singular and unique vision.
GRYOnline.pl - Dariusz Matusiak - Polish - 8.5 / 10
Despite minor technical issues and sometimes underwhelming graphics, I had lots of fun. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order was a trip down the memory lane; to the times when I played the best Star Wars games for the very first time. Respawn Entertainment can easily put their game on the same shelf as Jedi Outcast. The Force is strong with this one!
Game Informer - Andrew Reiner - 8.8 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order tells a new Star Wars story and takes players to new places. It sits nicely alongside the Rebels and Resistance TV shows, which also dare to be different
Game Rant - Denny Connolly - 4.5 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Empire combines puzzle-solving, exploration, and combat to deliver one of the most ambitious single-player Star Wars games ever.
Game Revolution - Jason Faulkner - 4 / 5 stars
Jedi Fallen Order isn’t perfect, but it’s a step in the right direction. The critical factor with this game is that it taps into that sense of adventure that Star Wars instills in fans.
GameCrate - Quibian Salazar-Moreno - 9.3 / 10
For those of you pleading for a good Star Wars game, it's finally here. No lootboxes, no microtransactions, just an action-packed adventure in a galaxy far, far away.
GamePro - Maximilian Franke - German - 85 / 100
Jedi: Fallen Order does not reinvent Star Wars. What it does, it makes it really good. The story, though, could be bolder.
GameSkinny - Jonny Foster - 8 / 10 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has some technical issues and poor pacing but is still an amazing single-player Star Wars game.
GameSpace - Damien Gula - 9 / 10
If you are looking for a quintessential Star Wars experience that does not outright saddle you with power, but makes you take the journey to earn and respect that power, Jedi: Fallen Order is worth the time spent in a galaxy far, far away.
GameSpew - Richard Seagrave - 8 / 10
The Force is strong with Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, but sometimes glimpses of the dark side seep through.
GameSpot - Phil Hornshaw - 8 / 10
Respawn Entertainment's foray into the Star Wars universe balances Force powers with tough difficulty to make the best Jedi game in years.
Gameblog - Jonathan Bushle - French - 8 / 10
Star Wars : Jedi Fallen Order Order is a very good game with a lot of well managed influences (Metroid, Tomb Raider, Uncharted or Sekiro). This is the game Star Wars fans are looking for
Gamers Heroes - Johnny Hurricane - 100 / 100
Much like what Arkham Asylum did for Batman games, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order sets the new standard for Star Wars titles. Not only is it a great Star Wars game, it is also the best game of the year.
Gamersky - 心灵奇兵 - Chinese - 8.2 / 10
Although lacking in innovation, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the best Star Wars game of all time.
GamesBeat - Jeff Grubb - 93 / 100
It is the kind of achievement that is only possible when one of the best developers in the world puts all of its might into making something special. And I hope we get more just like it in the future.
GamesRadar+ - Ben Tyrer - 4 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order might take ideas liberally from others, but the result is an endearing adventure that ranks as EA's best Star Wars effort yet.
GamingBolt - Will Borger - 8 / 10
Respawn's latest combines strong level design, excellent puzzles, compelling platforming, great combat, gorgeous visuals, and a fun story to make the best Star Wars game in over a decade.
GamingTrend - Ron Burke - 95 / 100
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an absolute masterpiece. Well paced, written, and executed, the game is Respawn's best thus far.
Generación Xbox - Desirée Clary - Spanish - 8.9 / 10
STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order is the galactic adventure that fans of the series have been waiting for so long. With a balanced pace and a very measured gameplay for combat, puzzles and platforms, the title knows how to tell a story within the canon that catches from the first moment.
Giant Bomb - Brad Shoemaker - 3 / 5 stars
Jedi: Fallen Order is both one of the best Star Wars games to date and distressingly unrefined.
Glitched Africa - Marco Cocomello - 8.5 / 10
The game may have some clunky moments where the combat just feels unpolished and Cal’s jumping is a bit off, but this can all be forgiven when you realize this is the story-driven Star Wars game we have been asking for.
God is a Geek - Chris White - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is filled with wonderful combat, great visuals, and a decent story, but the technical issues are too prominent to ignore.
Guardian - Oliver Holmes - 4 / 5 stars
With its satisfyingly challenging lightsaber combat and on-brand recreation of the Star Wars galaxy, this is the game fans have been waiting for
Hobby Consolas - David Martinez - Spanish - 90 / 100
Jedi Fallen Order is the game every Star Wars fan has been waiting for. Its level design, exploration and combat mechanics are great, and so is the use of the license. Sadly it is short (from 6 to 10 hours) and graphics feel a bit outdated.
IGN - Dan Stapleton - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order makes up for a lot of lost time with a fantastic single-player action-adventure that marks the return of the playable Jedi.
IGN Italy - Giovanni Marrelli - Italian - 8.2 / 10
A great action game that really shines in its combat mechanics and use of Force powers. If you love Star Wars and can't wait to restore the Jedi Order, then you will definitely enjoy Cal's journey, otherwise you could be disappointed by a game that, despite a fun gameplay, is not supported by a compelling story or unforgettable characters.
IGN Middle East - Mohamed Shorby - Arabic - 8.5 / 10
The Jedi Fallen Order is the perfect Star Wars game that fans had hoped for so many years.
IGN Spain - David Soriano - Spanish - 8.1 / 10
The new Star Wars game puts us in the shoes of a young Padawan who will have to survive after the execution of Order 66 in a mixture of various genres and mechanics that causes that we have liked it more for his galactic ambientantion than his own gameplay merits.
Impulsegamer - Tony Smith - 4.4 / 5
Even so, it is the single-player game that many Star Wars fans wanted and developers Respawn should be commended on successfully revitalising the franchise again and let’s hope this becomes a yearly event.
Kotaku - Joshua Rivera - Unscored
Taken as a whole, Jedi: Fallen Order brings a very familiar concept to the world of Star Wars video games: balance.
LevelUp - Víctor Rosas - Spanish - 9 / 10
Star Wars has found redemption in Respawn Entertainment. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is without doubt, one of the best Star Wars titles in recent memory, and already has a place in the history of Star War's video games. Respawn Entertainment succeeded and was the chosen one who brought the balance to the Force.
MMORPG.com - Garrick D. Raley - 9 / 10
There are so many aspects of Jedi: Fallen Order that I loved, and I hope we get to see more from Respawn in the future. For now, I think this is the Star Wars game I’ve been looking for.
Metro GameCentral - 7 / 10
An earnest attempt to create the ultimate Jedi simulator but the mishmash of game influences and an unengaging story leaves it only impacting on the surface.
Nexus - Robert de Wit - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order delivers a magnificent Star Wars experience that lives up to so many expectations, and then some. The marvelous blend and execution of platforming, challenging combat, and developed characters woven into a singular adventure is simply mesmerizing.
Noisy Pixel - Azario Lopez - 9.5 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the best single-player adventure that I have played in a very long time. The brilliant narrative that Respawn has created in the Star Wars universe is paired with excellent gameplay mechanics and level design.
PC Invasion - Tim McDonald - 6 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order certainly tries, but as Yoda pointed out, you either do or do not. For the most part, it does -- but without the grace or precision of a full-fledged Jedi Knight. The apprentice is not yet the master.
PCGamesN - Richard Scott-Jones - 8 / 10
Gameplay is rock solid from the start and only gains depth, giving a real sense of transformation into a Jedi badass. Respawn has also nailed the Star Wars universe, both good (sights, sounds, and cinematic flair) and bad (cringey dialogue and vacuous plot).
PCWorld - Hayden Dingman - 4 / 5 stars
Jedi: Fallen Order borrows liberally from other games, but a strong supporting cast, clever level design, and a cute little droid companion make Respawn's Star Wars story more than the sum of its parts.
PlayStation Universe - John-Paul Jones - 9 / 10
A thrilling marriage of Uncharted, Dark Souls and Metroid, a few technical hiccups aren't nearly enough to derail the best Star Wars game in years. Rewarded, your patience has been.
Polygon - Ben Kuchera - Unscored
Jedi: Fallen Order is a flawed, sometimes messy game, but it’s a Star Wars experience I didn’t know I wanted. And after finishing it, I definitely want more.
Post Arcade (National Post) - Chad Sapieha - 7 / 10
Respawn's first take on that galaxy far, far away could have used a little more gestation before being unleashed on players
PowerUp! - James Wood - 6 / 10
There are pockets of joy and engagement in Fallen Order, but ultimately it feels like a game developed a long time ago, before Star Wars moved on to brighter galaxies far, far away from this.
Press Start - James Mitchell - 9 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the Star Wars game fans have been waiting for. It brings together a strong story, addictive combat and an earnest dedication to recreating that Star Wars magic to offer one of the best Star Wars games in over a decade. It’s an experience that any Star Wars fan can’t afford to miss.
Push Square - Liam Croft - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is one of the very best games of 2019. Its engaging gameplay loops may have been lifted from other titles, but it's during combat where the game really shines with enjoyable lightsaber duels and numerous abilities that keep things fresh. Backed by a narrative that will bring delight to the Star Wars faithful, its wonderful main plot and referential nature makes the title an essential playthrough for anyone in tune with the force.
Rock, Paper, Shotgun - Brendan Caldwell - Unscored
Its saving virtue is that it is a right biggo, a thoughtless blast of blockbuster ‘splosions, a popcorn game, the grand kahuna you can point to when some bore starts burping on about how single player is dead
Shacknews - Sam Chandler - 7 / 10
While Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has some exciting combat and moments of genuinely interesting storytelling and acting, it just falls short of hitting the mark. It borrows heavily from several genres without actually adding anything new to the conversation. That’s not to say it’s bad, it just didn’t leave me wanting to revisit this galaxy.
Sirus Gaming - Lexuzze Tablante - 9.5 / 10
Jedi: Fallen Order wasn’t dull or lackluster, there were big surprises that pushed me back from my seat, tons of memorable moments, the combat was definitely fulfilling, and it stayed loyal to its source material. While it’s not a technical marvel, I’ve never had this level of fun in any video game this year and I’m certainly glad that Respawn Entertainment delivered one of the greatest Star Wars games in history.
Spaziogames - Domenico Musicò - Italian - 8.8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is indubitably one of the best Star Wars Games. Under the guide of Stig Asmussen, Respawn has created a solid action-adventure game and an exciting original story that fits perfectly in the series universe.
Spiel Times - Caleb Wysor - 7 / 10
For all of the delightful combat, fun puzzles, and great narrative moments, Fallen Order is still marred by derivative action, frustrating navigation, and technical issues that prevent it from taking its place alongside Jedi Outcast and Knights of the Old Republic as one of the all-time great Star Wars games.
Stevivor - Ben Salter - 9 / 10
It’s the blend of all these elements that makes Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order the gripping single-player Star Wars game we have been waiting for all generation. Challenging combat is broken up by platforming and exploration, and it’s all held together by a narrative I genuinely cared about. On their own, none of these elements are going to win awards and are all done better elsewhere, but as a package they form something exciting — much like the Star Wars films.
The Digital Fix - Lloyd Coombes - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is a beautiful monster, with the best bits of multiple games stapled together to make a fun, if occasionally frustrating, action game in the Star Wars universe.
TheSixthAxis - Jim Hargreaves - 8 / 10
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is exactly the kind of single player game we had originally hoped to see when EA and Disney joined forces. Even if you strip away the license, you're left with a super satisfying mix or combat, story, and exploration, deftly crafted by a studio best known for spearheading an entirely different genre.
TrustedReviews - Adam Speight - 4 / 5 stars
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is far from a masterpiece, but to say it could’ve been one without some of its basic flaws may not be so far fetched.
Twinfinite - Chris Jecks - 4 / 5
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is the Star Wars game that fans have been crying out for years now. While it doesn’t do anything new, its clear inspirations from Dark Souls and Tomb Raider have helped to create an epic, sprawling adventure that’ll have you ready for more the moment
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2019.09.01 18:22 ZandrickEllison [OC] Is It Hot In Here, Or Is It Just Me? a 30-team examination of which coaches are on the “hot seat”

The NBA season hasn't started yet, but that doesn't mean that coaches should feel entirely comfortable in their offices quite yet. Circumstances change quickly, and coaching positions can change quickly along with them.
Through this (super long) post, I wanted to assess each coach's job security for this 2019-20 season. There's no simple or accurate metric for measuring this, so I'm going to give an estimated and subjective appraisal of their chances of getting fired, either in mid-season or at the end of the season.
I LOVE YOU, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME (listed alphabetically by team)
Golden State: Steve Kerr
After 5 years on the job, Steve Kerr has a winning percentage of .785 in the regular season, and 3 NBA titles in the postseason. In fact, the team's 57-25 record last year was the worst of his tenure so far. So yes, his job is safe. Kerr could coach the next 10 years there if he wanted. For Kerr, it's not a matter of job security; it's a matter of health. He's been able to endure his constant back pain in pursuit of titles, but will he have the same resolve if the team sags into "good but not great" status? TBD. chance of firing: 0%. chance of retirement: 10%.
L.A. Clippers: Doc Rivers
A few years ago, Doc Rivers was almost the victim of his own success. His gaudy resume had allowed him to take charge of the L.A. Clippers front office, and he simply didn't do a great job in that role. However, he wisely took more of a backseat there, and embraced the job (head coach) that he's quite good at. The 48-34 record last year re-established his coaching cred, and the new superstars should energize him for a few more seasons at least. chance of firing / retirement: 2%
San Antonio: Gregg Popovich
Along with Steve Kerr, Gregg Popovich is firmly in the "you can stay as long as you want" camp. And he nearly has. He's been at the helm for 23 years. Amazing, the last two seasons (47-35, 48-34) have amounted to Pop's worst percentages over the course of a full season. He's one of the greatest ever, and unlike some old veteran coaches, hasn't lost his fastball whatsoever. He's constantly adapted, evolved, and thrived. But as with Kerr, the question is whether Popovich is nearing the end of the road, for personal reasons. He's 70 now, and in control of Team USA. He may hand the baton off and focus on that job going forward. I suspect he'll give it a go in both roles until the Olympics at least, but it's no longer a guarantee. chances of firing: 0%. chances of retiring: 20%.
I STILL LOVE YOU, BUT WE MAY NEED COUPLES COUNSELING (listed alphabetically)
Boston: Brad Stevens
A season or two ago, Brad Stevens was the golden boy coach in the NBA. After a slightly underwhelming 49-33 season, we're starting to see some grumbles about his offense (which isn't as free-flowing and ball-moving as his age may suggest.) The Celtics will replace Kyrie Irving with Kemba Walker, but expectations aren't much lower. If the team can't grab a top 4 seed, those grumbles may grow. And if the Boston-Stevens love affair ends, would he start to eye a move back to the NCAA? Probably not, but we can't promise the marriage lasts forever. chances of firing: 2%, chances of leaving: 5%.
Miami: Erik Spoelstra
Although the Miami Heat have been mediocre lately (124-122 over the last three years), I'm still be inclined to group in Erik Spoelstra in with the "untouchables." After all, this is a 2-time champion coach with 500+ career wins prior to the age of 50 (48 years old right now.) Even if the Miami Heat underachieve and miss the playoffs again, I don't think Pat Riley would want to rock the boat on this culture. Still, Jimmy Butler is a handful, and potential addition Chris Paul isn't a bed of roses either. If Spoelstra can't get "buy in" from his new stars, then there may be more trouble in paradise than we expect. Again, it's a very small chance a divorce happens, but we can't give it a 0 either. chance of firing: 4%.
JUST DON'T EMBARRASS ME IN PUBLIC (listed alphabetically)
Cleveland: John Beilein
It's hard to under-estimate the leverage rookie coach John Beilein has with the organization right now. They lured him from Michigan with a 5 year contract, where he'll be "working for" a front office that features assistant GM Mike Gansey (Beilein's former player.) Simply put: they're going to hand him this team and allow him to build a program in his image. Despite that, it doesn't mean the transition will work like a charm (just ask Billy Donovan.) Beilein is 66 years old, and has never coached in the pros before. He may simply decide that he hates the NBA and walk away prematurely. Still, it's hard to imagine that happening this early barring any unforeseen health issues. chances of firing: 1%. chances of leaving: 5%.
Memphis: Taylor Jenkins
Although they have wildly different resumes and backgrounds, Taylor Jenkins will be in a similar boat to John Beilein. He's inheriting a team that's in a rebuilding situation, and should afford him a lot of patience going forward. The Wharton-grad Jenkins projects as a smart, modern coach who should have long-term success. Still, we can't absolutely guarantee Memphis doesn't fire him after 1 season, because they have done that before. chances of firing: 3%
Milwaukee: Mike Budenholzer
Based on pure coaching talent and resume, Coach Bud has nothing to worry about - particularly after a 60-22 record last season. The only reason that I'm even putting him in this category at all is the potential for off-the-court issues. He had been arrested before on a suspicion of DUI back in 2014, although he was later found not guilty. If something worse happens in that ilk, then he may be in trouble. But barring that, he's obviously safe. chances of firing: 2%.
Minnesota: Ryan Saunders
While interim coach Ryan Saunders (Flip's son) had been a popular pick in the locker room, he still represents a sizable risk by this new front office. After all, he's only 33 years old and hasn't been a head coach at any level prior to that short stint last season. He may be a home run; he may be a strike out. Of course, he'd have to be a wild strike out (with a bat thrown into the stands) for it to amount to a firing in year one. chances of firing: 5%
Orlando: Steve Clifford
Veteran Steve Clifford did a tremendous job in his first year in Orlando, helping the team improve from 25-57 to 42-40 and a playoff trip. There's a chance the Magic may stagnate in R1 unless one of their young players (Jon Isaac, Mo Bamba, Markelle Fultz) takes a "leap," but they should have patience with Clifford for at least another year or two. Barring health issues, his job is safe. chances of firing: 2%.
Phoenix: Monty Williams
One of the reasons we can't claim rookie coaches are entirely safe is because teams like Phoenix have fired them in the past -- including Igor Kokoskov last season. However, it'd be very difficult for any owner (even Robert Sarver) to justify doing it two times in a row. In fact, Monty Williams secured a 5-year deal to help prevent that nonsense. chances of firing: 2%.
Sacramento: Luke Walton
Despite mixed results in L.A., Luke Walton was a hot commodity with the Sacramento Kings franchise, who gave him a nice 4-year contract. Of course, that happened before the sexual misconduct allegations that surfaced since. While that appears to have quieted down, any new rumor or accusation may turn up the heat on Walton. Barring that, the team should stand by their man. chances of firing: 5%.
Toronto: Nick Nurse
Nick Nurse is about as close to "untouchable" as you can get for a coach with 1 year of experience. But hey, that was a heck of a year. Nurse won the title, and outfoxed several great coaches along the way. The Raptors could probably sink down as low as 30 wins (unlikely) and still keep Nurse for the long haul. chances of firing: 1%.
Utah: Quin Snyder
While Quin Snyder hasn't had a huge amount of playoff success yet himself, he's also quickly established himself as one of the better NBA coaches. Over the last three years, the Jazz have played lockdown defense and averaged 49.7 wins. This offseason has raised expectations, but Snyder should be safe for another season or two even if they slightly underachieve. The bigger issue would be if Snyder gets in trouble off the court; he had a wilder history in college prior to straightening out in the pros. chances of firing: 4%.
YOU'RE SAFE (FOR NOW) (again, alphabetically)
Atlanta: Lloyd Pierce
In theory, Lloyd Pierce should be in great shape here in Atlanta. The young team had a solid 29-53 season in his first year, and their young core projects well for the future. That said, expectations will rise over time. Pierce was partly hired for his defensive reputation, but the team only ranked 27th last season. With Trae Young (who graded dead last in ESPN RPM on defense), that may be hard to change. Hopefully rookies De'Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish will solve that issue, but if not, Pierce may start feeling some heat in 2020. When he was hired, the team only gave him a 3 year contract, which indicates that he didn't have much leverage coming in. chances of firing: 7.5%
Charlotte: James Borrego
Like Lloyd Pierce, James Borrego will be entering Year 2 in a rebuilding situation that should lend itself to patience. On the other hand, logic tends to go out the window when it comes to the Charlotte Hornets. Borrego will have to deal with a weak roster, and a shaky front office that just gave $19M a season to Terry Rozier. I expect Borrego will survive for a while, but we can't rule out a house cleaning. chances of firing: 10%.
Brooklyn: Kenny Atkinson
Kenny Atkinson has done a great job bringing the Nets out of a deep black hole rebuild, but now the expectations will vault up with the arrival of Kyrie Irving (and soon Kevin Durant.) Presumably, those stars wouldn't have signed up in the first place if they didn't like Atkinson. That said, their opinions can change at the drop of a hat. A disappointment in 2019-20? Okay fine. Another in 2020-21? Then Atkinson will start feeling that seat warm. chances of firing: 4%
Dallas: Rick Carlisle
As one of the most respected coaches (and a title winner to boot), Rick Carlisle should have job security for life. Still, the NBA will always be a stars league, and Carlisle's star isn't Dirk Nowitzki anymore. It's going to be Luka Doncic (and Kristaps Porzingis' team), and Carlisle will need to appease them to some degree. Missing the playoffs this year may be fine, but whiffing again in 2020-21 would be problematic; it would be the 5th season in a row without a playoff berth. chances of firing/retiring: 5%
Denver: Mike Malone
After a premature exit in Sacramento, Mike Malone has rebuilt his stock by lifting Denver to contender status. He's improved every year, from 30-52 to 33-49 to 40-42 to 46-36 to the breakout 54-28 record last season. Of course, that also comes with rising expectations. Like the others in this section, Malone could survive one regression year, but two disappointing years in a row would be a problem. chances of firing: 5%.
Detroit: Dwane Casey
Of all our coaches, Dwane Casey knows that one should never get too comfortable. After all, he was fired after a 59-win season (and a Coach of the Year trophy) in Toronto. After that, he still had enough leverage to earn a 5-year deal in Detroit, which should buy him quite a bit of time. Still, a 41-41 start was "meh." To make matters worse, Nick Nurse and the Raptors won the title without him (albeit with Kawhi Leonard.) Given Casey's big contract, he should be safe in Year 2 and Year 3, but there's hardly a guarantee he'll survive all 5 years of the deal. chances of firing: 5%.
10 HOTTEST SEATS (in order)
(10) Portland: Terry Stotts
Remember, this isn't a ranking of the best and worst coaches but merely their situations. In fact, everyone would agree that Terry Stotts is a very good basketball coach. In fact, if you asked the other NBA coaches to rank their peers, I suspect Stotts may even crack the top 5. That skill has manifested on the court as well. His Blazers have made the playoffs for 6 seasons in a row, and had a mini-breakout with a Conference Finals trip this year.
Still, making the playoffs doesn't lock in job security in the NBA; winning a title does. And until that happens, the franchise will always wonder in the back of their minds on whether or not they should pull a "Masai Ujiri" and squeeze Stotts out for a younger assistant on his staff like Nate Tibbetts, a rising star in the ranks.
After tasting the WCF last year, can Stotts afford to take a step back? Probably. Losing in R2 seems about right for this team as presently constructed. But what if they lose in R1? Then it becomes more of a debate. I'd still recommend keeping Stotts and tweaking the roster instead (ya'll got any more of them stretch PFs?) but I'm not in charge of the team and I'm not ruling any shake-ups out. chances of firing: 15%
(9) Indiana: Nate McMillan
As with Terry Stotts, it may feel strange to see Nate McMillan on this list. At first glance, neither should be on the hot seat at all. In McMillan's three years on the job, he's guided the team to winning records and playoff trips in each season. The Pacers just finished 48-34 despite Victor Oladipo's injury, and may be better than that this season with new additions like Malcolm Brogdon.
Still, we have to go deeper than the first glance here. Indiana thrives on the basis of their defense (ranked 3rd last season), which is heavily influenced by assistant Dan Burke and DPOY candidate Myles Turner. Offensively, the team tends to look a little scattered and uncreative, which has Pacers fans quietly murmuring about McMillan. They added some new scorers in Brogdon and T.J. Warren, but both are players coming off career years from 3. If they regress at all -- and this team regresses at all -- then McMillan may be in more trouble than we realize.
Am I expected that? Not really. If I had to bet, I would bank on the Pacers winning 45-50 games and McMillan lasting at least another season. But if we're looking for potential hot seat situations, we can't ignore the potential downside here. If they underachieve, McMillan may be the fall guy. chances of firing: 20%
(8) N.Y. Knicks: David Fizdale
We can't judge David Fizdale too harshly based on his 17-65 record in year one. After all, tanking and landing a top 3 pick was all part of the plan. But what's the plan going forward? After striking out with the superstars in free agency, the Knicks signed a bunch of B+ and C+ players to big money. With it, they've attempted to re-set expectations. Instead of landing superstars in 2019, they're going to land them in 2021! Hopefully?
In the meantime, David Fizdale should be able to survive until then. His team is still young, and features first and second year players like R.J. Barrett, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, and Dennis Smith. Practically speaking, the veterans like Julius Randle and Bobby Portis are meant to supplement that rebuilding movement. Fizdale should be allowed to develop this group, and be afforded some growing pains in 2019-20 and again in 2020-21.
However, there are a few factors working against him. The front office may fancy themselves a playoff contender out East, which may go sour by the end of the year. Moreover, that front office isn't exactly on solid ground themselves after getting pounded by the press this summer. Dolan may want a complete fresh start after this year. More than that, there's a non-zero chance James Dolan leaves town himself, and some super-billionaire like Jeff Bezos uses his change jar to buy the team and mold it into his image. At the end of the day, there's more uncertainty with this situation than a second-year coach would like to see. chances of firing: 20%
(7) Chicago: Jim Boylen
As a well-respected defensive coordinator, Jim Boylen's name has always been bandied about for head coaching jobs in the past. He finally got his opportunity last season after taking over for apple pie Fred Hoiberg in mid-season.
At first, it did not go well. Jim Boylen had about as rocky of a start as you can imagine, earning negative reports in the press about his drill sergeant attitude clashing with the locker room. Still, he turned that perception around and had a decent finish to the year and earned some "buy in" from the players. Better yet, his Chicago Bulls may be a darkhorse contender for the # 8 seed. They have offensive stars in Zach LaVine and Lauri Markkanen already, so an improved defense may vault them closer to .500. Even if that doesn't happen (yet), Boylen should feel safe knowing he has the backing of the front office.
Of course, that also ties Boylen's fate to that front office. Ownership has tended to leave Gar Forman and John Paxson alone, but it's not a lifetime appointment. If this team doesn't improve enough (and wins say, 25 or 30 games), then there may be a total housecleaning here. I'm a little more optimistic on the Bulls' chances of winning 35-40 games than others, but we can't rule a potential disaster out. chances of firing: 25%
(6) Philadelphia: Brett Brown
After a long dark winter, Brett Brown and the Philadelphia 76ers have emerged from the "Process" intact. In fact, Brown has won more games in each of the last two seasons (52 and 50) then he did over his first three seasons combined (47). But with that comes raised expectations, which may be higher than ever. With Kawhi Leonard out of the Conference and the sheen off the Boston Celtics, the Sixers are the co-favorites with Milwaukee to make the Finals. Losing in the Conference Finals would be acceptable, but a R1 or R2 loss may be stinging.
Would that disappointment be enough to cost Brown his job? It's debatable. His contract extension runs through 2021-22, but that's never stopped a coach from being fired before. Fans may grow frustrated if Ben Simmons still can't shoot, or if Joel Embiid can't stay healthy, or if Philly's defense doesn't look as dominant as it should be on paper (despite Simmons, Embiid, and Jimmy Butler, they only ranked # 15 last season.) It's very possible that Brown becomes the scapegoat here.
Of course, we're talking "worst case scenarios" here. Chances are: the Sixers should be quite good and have a very good chance to make the ECF or the Finals. So while we can't rule out a firing, we wouldn't bet on it either. chances of firing: 30%
(5) New Orleans: Alvin Gentry
After coming over from Golden State, the exceptions for Alvin Gentry in New Orleans were sky-high. Suffice it to say, it's been an underwhelming return so far. Despite the (occasional) presence of Anthony Davis, his Pelicans have won less than 35 games in three of his four seasons on the job.
Oddly, Davis' trade demands may have helped Gentry survive another year. With the blockbuster deal, expectations get re-set and the window extends again. On paper, Gentry and assistant Chris Finch's run-and-gun style should suit this new roster well. Gentry is also someone who's earned high praise from his players and from the media in the past. If new execs David Griffin and Trajan Langdon didn't believe in him, they had the opportunity to make that change this past summer.
But alas, that doesn't mean they won't have that same opportunity again next summer. Gentry's contract will be running out, and the team may decide to go with someone younger than him (he's now age 64.) To earn a longer leash, Gentry doesn't need to make the playoffs, but he has to show reasons for optimism. The Pelicans need to find a clear role for Zion Williamson, and earn some improvement from the cast-off Lakers. There's a lot of talent on the roster, but if the team stalls or looks like a muddled mess, Griffin may likely clean up the picture and chose his own head coach the next time around. chances of firing: 35%
(4) Houston: Mike D'Antoni
Veteran Mike D'Antoni may start spitting out Rodney Dangerfield routines, because the poor guy doesn't get much respect. Despite a great run here in Houston (records of 55-27, 65-17, 53-29), he's still struggling to earn a contract extension from the franchise.
And while owner Tilman Fertitta gets the blame for that, we can't rule out Daryl Morey's influence either. Morey has stated in the past that he thinks coaches' messages tend to run stale after a few years, and that philosophy has born out in their decision making. Jeff Van Gundy lasted 4 years. After him, Rick Adelman lasted 4 years. After him, Kevin McHale lasted 4 years (+10 games). This season, Mike D'Antoni will be entering the dreaded 4th year himself. The Houston Rockets' job essentially has strict presidential term limits, and he's verging on lame duck status.
To up the degree of difficulty even further, the team added Russell Westbrook to the equation. That's not to say it's the wrong decision by any means or that it won't work out (personally I'd still peg them for a top 3 seed), but we have to admit there's a sizable chance that it won't work out. The chemistry for Harden + Westbrook is going to be harder to calculate now that they've both had considerable success (and MVP seasons). And if something doesn't click, it will certainly be easier to blame D'Antoni than the two stars, whose massive contracts run for another few seasons. chances of firing/retiring: 40%
(3) L.A. Lakers: Frank Vogel
It's rare to see a first-year coach listed this high, but this is rare circumstances indeed. Frank Vogel will be joining the Lakers on a 3-year contract, which is quite light for a veteran like him. That fact showcases his limited leverage and his reduced reputation. The Lakers didn't high the coach who guided the Indiana Pacers to the ECF; they hired the coach who led Orlando to 29-53 and 25-57 records. In some ways, Vogel is lucky to have landed any job at all.
But there's no mistaking the fact that this particular job will come with some challenges. Primary among them: the threat of assistant Jason Kidd breathing down his neck. According to some, Kidd was the first choice of the front office, and the conspiracy theory that they simply didn't want to hire him outright (due to domestic violence charges in the past) checks out logically for me. Vogel can't be too pleased to turn on the Summer League and watch his new star LeBron James sitting next to Kidd in Vegas either.
Will LeBron James, Rich Paul, and Jason Kidd conspire to stab Vogel like Caesar? The odds are high. But the question is a matter of "when?" James didn't love David Blatt, but allowed him 1.5 on the job before he got the boot. The Lakers may end up giving Vogel a full season and change to make his impact on the defensive end before considering a full-time change in midseason in 2020-21.
And hey, we can't rule out the "what if it works?" theory either. This team has LeBron James and Anthony Davis, for fuck's sake. They have a legitimate chance to be a great team, and even an NBA champion. If that happens, Vogel won't be going anywhere (at least, not for another year or two.) chances of firing: 45%
(2) Washington: Scottie Brooks
The Scottie Brooks era in Washington has been a disappointment, and it won't get much prettier from here. After the John Wall injury, the Wizards will be entering 2019-20 with one legitimate star in Bradley Beal and a wonky supporting cast. They're a motley crew of decent prospects who may be 2 years away (Troy Brown, Rui Hachimura, Thomas Bryant) and veterans who may be 2 years removed from quality play (Isaiah Thomas, Ish Smith, C.J. Miles.) Realistically speaking, Bradley Beal will have to put in a Herculean effort for this group to win 35 games.
If there's any reason to think the axe will not come for Scottie Brooks' head, it's that this Washington Wizards owner Ted Leonsis isn't the "off with his head!" type. He's been patience with the Washington Capitals hockey team, as well as this Wizards unit. Former GM Ernie Grunfeld lasted for years past his expiration date. And in turn, Brooks may be allowed to play out another year of his (pricy) contract. Brooks also has a reputation as a good player development coach, which bodes well for his prospects during a possible rebuild to come.
All that said, Brooks shouldn't be investing in D.C. real estate. The clock is ticking. I would fully expect new acting GM Tommy Sheppard to cut Brooks loose and choose his own coach at some point, but we can't be 100% confident it will happen after this season or after the next. chances of firing: 50%
(1) Oklahoma City: Billy Donovan
Given his new status as a /NBA punching bag, it's hard to under-sell just how much leverage Billy Donovan had when he first came to Oklahoma City. We're talking about a well-paid college coach who had won two separate NCAA titles at Florida, and had resisted the NBA calls for years. He arrived in OKC with a 5-year deal in tow, as well as a reputation as one of the best coaches in basketball.
As we now enter Year 5 of that contract, Donovan's reputation has been tarnished considerably. He's been blasted for perceived underachievement, particularly in the postseason. With Kevin Durant, the team blew a 3-1 lead to Golden State, and hasn't won a playoff series since (losing in R1 three times in a row.) In fact, they've gone 4-15 in playoff games since then. Donovan's managed to avoid getting the boot because of his reputation and big contract, but those excuses won't hold off the executioner much longer.
Personally, I'm a little bit of a "Donovan Defender." I don't think he's done as bad of a job as advertised. After all, his worst regular season record has been 47-35. He's kept the team afloat without Kevin Durant. And sure, he probably should have reined in Russell Westbrook, but it's not easy to harness an MVP. The fact that Donovan won 48 games with a guard who jacked up 20 shots a game (at 50.1% true shooting) is oddly impressive in a way. And heck, let's even defend blowing the 3-1 lead. It's not like OKC woke up one morning with a 3-1 lead under their Christmas tree; Donovan used some wily tricks and unconventional lineups to help earn those 3 wins in the first place.
But again, these rankings aren't about my perception of the coaches, but rather my perception of their situations and stocks. In theory, this OKC roster isn't half bad and could flirt with .500 if they wanted to pursue the playoffs. And in theory, if they blow it up, then a college coach like Donovan may be well suited for that rebuild. But in reality, I just don't see an extension here. The marriage has soured, resentment has built up, and a divorce may be best for both parties involved. chances of firing: 55%
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2019.08.31 15:44 ZandrickEllison Is It Hot In Here, Or Is It Just Me? An examination of all 30 coaches and their temperature on the "hot seat"

The NBA season hasn't started yet, but that doesn't mean that coaches should feel entirely comfortable in their offices quite yet. Circumstances change quickly, and coaching positions can change quickly along with them.
Through this (super long) post, I wanted to assess each coach's job security for this 2019-20 season. There's no simple or accurate metric for measuring this, so I'm going to give an estimated and subjective appraisal of their chances of getting fired, either in mid-season or at the end of the season.
I LOVE YOU, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME (listed alphabetically by team)
Golden State: Steve Kerr
After 5 years on the job, Steve Kerr has a winning percentage of .785 in the regular season, and 3 NBA titles in the postseason. In fact, the team's 57-25 record last year was the worst of his tenure so far. So yes, his job is safe. Kerr could coach the next 10 years there if he wanted. For Kerr, it's not a matter of job security; it's a matter of health. He's been able to endure his constant back pain in pursuit of titles, but will he have the same resolve if the team sags into "good but not great" status? TBD. chance of firing: 0%. chance of retirement: 10%.
L.A. Clippers: Doc Rivers
A few years ago, Doc Rivers was almost the victim of his own success. His gaudy resume had allowed him to take charge of the L.A. Clippers front office, and he simply didn't do a great job in that role. However, he wisely took more of a backseat there, and embraced the job (head coach) that he's quite good at. The 48-34 record last year re-established his coaching cred, and the new superstars should energize him for a few more seasons at least. chance of firing / retirement: 2%
San Antonio: Gregg Popovich
Along with Steve Kerr, Gregg Popovich is firmly in the "you can stay as long as you want" camp. And he nearly has. He's been at the helm for 23 years. Amazing, the last two seasons (47-35, 48-34) have amounted to Pop's worst percentages over the course of a full season. He's one of the greatest ever, and unlike some old veteran coaches, hasn't lost his fastball whatsoever. He's constantly adapted, evolved, and thrived. But as with Kerr, the question is whether Popovich is nearing the end of the road, for personal reasons. He's 70 now, and in control of Team USA. He may hand the baton off and focus on that job going forward. I suspect he'll give it a go in both roles until the Olympics at least, but it's no longer a guarantee. chances of firing: 0%. chances of retiring: 20%.
I STILL LOVE YOU, BUT WE MAY NEED COUPLES COUNSELING (listed alphabetically)
Boston: Brad Stevens
A season or two ago, Brad Stevens was the golden boy coach in the NBA. After a slightly underwhelming 49-33 season, we're starting to see some grumbles about his offense (which isn't as free-flowing and ball-moving as his age may suggest.) The Celtics will replace Kyrie Irving with Kemba Walker, but expectations aren't much lower. If the team can't grab a top 4 seed, those grumbles may grow. And if the Boston-Stevens love affair ends, would he start to eye a move back to the NCAA? Probably not, but we can't promise the marriage lasts forever. chances of firing: 2%, chances of leaving: 5%.
Miami: Erik Spoelstra
Although the Miami Heat have been mediocre lately (124-122 over the last three years), I'm still be inclined to group in Erik Spoelstra in with the "untouchables." After all, this is a 2-time champion coach with 500+ career wins prior to the age of 50 (48 years old right now.) Even if the Miami Heat underachieve and miss the playoffs again, I don't think Pat Riley would want to rock the boat on this culture. Still, Jimmy Butler is a handful, and potential addition Chris Paul isn't a bed of roses either. If Spoelstra can't get "buy in" from his new stars, then there may be more trouble in paradise than we expect. Again, it's a very small chance a divorce happens, but we can't give it a 0 either. chance of firing: 4%.
JUST DON'T EMBARRASS ME IN PUBLIC (listed alphabetically)
Cleveland: John Beilein
It's hard to under-estimate the leverage rookie coach John Beilein has with the organization right now. They lured him from Michigan with a 5 year contract, where he'll be "working for" a front office that features assistant GM Mike Gansey (Beilein's former player.) Simply put: they're going to hand him this team and allow him to build a program in his image. Despite that, it doesn't mean the transition will work like a charm (just ask Billy Donovan.) Beilein is 66 years old, and has never coached in the pros before. He may simply decide that he hates the NBA and walk away prematurely. Still, it's hard to imagine that happening this early barring any unforeseen health issues. chances of firing: 1%. chances of leaving: 5%.
Memphis: Taylor Jenkins
Although they have wildly different resumes and backgrounds, Taylor Jenkins will be in a similar boat to John Beilein. He's inheriting a team that's in a rebuilding situation, and should afford him a lot of patience going forward. The Wharton-grad Jenkins projects as a smart, modern coach who should have long-term success. Still, we can't absolutely guarantee Memphis doesn't fire him after 1 season, because they have done that before. chances of firing: 3%
Milwaukee: Mike Budenholzer
Based on pure coaching talent and resume, Coach Bud has nothing to worry about - particularly after a 60-22 record last season. The only reason that I'm even putting him in this category at all is the potential for off-the-court issues. He had been arrested before on a suspicion of DUI back in 2014, although he was later found not guilty. If something worse happens in that ilk, then he may be in trouble. But barring that, he's obviously safe. chances of firing: 2%.
Minnesota: Ryan Saunders
While interim coach Ryan Saunders (Flip's son) had been a popular pick in the locker room, he still represents a sizable risk by this new front office. After all, he's only 33 years old and hasn't been a head coach at any level prior to that short stint last season. He may be a home run; he may be a strike out. Of course, he'd have to be a wild strike out (with a bat thrown into the stands) for it to amount to a firing in year one. chances of firing: 5%
Orlando: Steve Clifford
Veteran Steve Clifford did a tremendous job in his first year in Orlando, helping the team improve from 25-57 to 42-40 and a playoff trip. There's a chance the Magic may stagnate in R1 unless one of their young players (Jon Isaac, Mo Bamba, Markelle Fultz) takes a "leap," but they should have patience with Clifford for at least another year or two. Barring health issues, his job is safe. chances of firing: 2%.
Phoenix: Monty Williams
One of the reasons we can't claim rookie coaches are entirely safe is because teams like Phoenix have fired them in the past -- including Igor Kokoskov last season. However, it'd be very difficult for any owner (even Robert Sarver) to justify doing it two times in a row. In fact, Monty Williams secured a 5-year deal to help prevent that nonsense. chances of firing: 2%.
Sacramento: Luke Walton
Despite mixed results in L.A., Luke Walton was a hot commodity with the Sacramento Kings franchise, who gave him a nice 4-year contract. Of course, that happened before the sexual misconduct allegations that surfaced since. While that appears to have quieted down, any new rumor or accusation may turn up the heat on Walton. Barring that, the team should stand by their man. chances of firing: 5%.
Toronto: Nick Nurse
Nick Nurse is about as close to "untouchable" as you can get for a coach with 1 year of experience. But hey, that was a heck of a year. Nurse won the title, and outfoxed several great coaches along the way. The Raptors could probably sink down as low as 30 wins (unlikely) and still keep Nurse for the long haul. chances of firing: 1%.
Utah: Quin Snyder
While Quin Snyder hasn't had a huge amount of playoff success yet himself, he's also quickly established himself as one of the better NBA coaches. Over the last three years, the Jazz have played lockdown defense and averaged 49.7 wins. This offseason has raised expectations, but Snyder should be safe for another season or two even if they slightly underachieve. The bigger issue would be if Snyder gets in trouble off the court; he had a wilder history in college prior to straightening out in the pros. chances of firing: 4%.
YOU'RE SAFE (FOR NOW) (again, alphabetically)
Atlanta: Lloyd Pierce
In theory, Lloyd Pierce should be in great shape here in Atlanta. The young team had a solid 29-53 season in his first year, and their young core projects well for the future. That said, expectations will rise over time. Pierce was partly hired for his defensive reputation, but the team only ranked 27th last season. With Trae Young (who graded dead last in ESPN RPM on defense), that may be hard to change. Hopefully rookies De'Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish will solve that issue, but if not, Pierce may start feeling some heat in 2020. When he was hired, the team only gave him a 3 year contract, which indicates that he didn't have much leverage coming in. chances of firing: 7.5%
Charlotte: James Borrego
Like Lloyd Pierce, James Borrego will be entering Year 2 in a rebuilding situation that should lend itself to patience. On the other hand, logic tends to go out the window when it comes to the Charlotte Hornets. Borrego will have to deal with a weak roster, and a shaky front office that just gave $19M a season to Terry Rozier. I expect Borrego will survive for a while, but we can't rule out a house cleaning. chances of firing: 10%.
Brooklyn: Kenny Atkinson
Kenny Atkinson has done a great job bringing the Nets out of a deep black hole rebuild, but now the expectations will vault up with the arrival of Kyrie Irving (and soon Kevin Durant.) Presumably, those stars wouldn't have signed up in the first place if they didn't like Atkinson. That said, their opinions can change at the drop of a hat. A disappointment in 2019-20? Okay fine. Another in 2020-21? Then Atkinson will start feeling that seat warm. chances of firing: 4%
Dallas: Rick Carlisle
As one of the most respected coaches (and a title winner to boot), Rick Carlisle should have job security for life. Still, the NBA will always be a stars league, and Carlisle's star isn't Dirk Nowitzki anymore. It's going to be Luka Doncic (and Kristaps Porzingis' team), and Carlisle will need to appease them to some degree. Missing the playoffs this year may be fine, but whiffing again in 2020-21 would be problematic; it would be the 5th season in a row without a playoff berth. chances of firing/retiring: 5%
Denver: Mike Malone
After a premature exit in Sacramento, Mike Malone has rebuilt his stock by lifting Denver to contender status. He's improved every year, from 30-52 to 33-49 to 40-42 to 46-36 to the breakout 54-28 record last season. Of course, that also comes with rising expectations. Like the others in this section, Malone could survive one regression year, but two disappointing years in a row would be a problem. chances of firing: 5%.
Detroit: Dwane Casey
Of all our coaches, Dwane Casey knows that one should never get too comfortable. After all, he was fired after a 59-win season (and a Coach of the Year trophy) in Toronto. After that, he still had enough leverage to earn a 5-year deal in Detroit, which should buy him quite a bit of time. Still, a 41-41 start was "meh." To make matters worse, Nick Nurse and the Raptors won the title without him (albeit with Kawhi Leonard.) Given Casey's big contract, he should be safe in Year 2 and Year 3, but there's hardly a guarantee he'll survive all 5 years of the deal. chances of firing: 5%.
10 HOTTEST SEATS (in order)
(10) Portland: Terry Stotts
Remember, this isn't a ranking of the best and worst coaches but merely their situations. In fact, everyone would agree that Terry Stotts is a very good basketball coach. In fact, if you asked the other NBA coaches to rank their peers, I suspect Stotts may even crack the top 5. That skill has manifested on the court as well. His Blazers have made the playoffs for 6 seasons in a row, and had a mini-breakout with a Conference Finals trip this year.
Still, making the playoffs doesn't lock in job security in the NBA; winning a title does. And until that happens, the franchise will always wonder in the back of their minds on whether or not they should pull a "Masai Ujiri" and squeeze Stotts out for a younger assistant on his staff like Nate Tibbetts or David Vanterpool, two rising star coaching candidates in their own right.
After tasting the WCF last year, can Stotts afford to take a step back? Probably. Losing in R2 seems about right for this team as presently constructed. But what if they lose in R1? Then it becomes more of a debate. I'd still recommend keeping Stotts and tweaking the roster instead (ya'll got any more of them stretch PFs?) but I'm not in charge of the team and I'm not ruling any shake-ups out. chances of firing: 15%
(9) Indiana: Nate McMillan
As with Terry Stotts, it may feel strange to see Nate McMillan on this list. At first glance, neither should be on the hot seat at all. In McMillan's three years on the job, he's guided the team to winning records and playoff trips in each season. The Pacers just finished 48-34 despite Victor Oladipo's injury, and may be better than that this season with new additions like Malcolm Brogdon.
Still, we have to go deeper than the first glance here. Indiana thrives on the basis of their defense (ranked 3rd last season), which is heavily influenced by assistant Dan Burke and DPOY candidate Myles Turner. Offensively, the team tends to look a little scattered and uncreative, which has Pacers fans quietly murmuring about McMillan. They added some new scorers in Brogdon and T.J. Warren, but both are players coming off career years from 3. If they regress at all -- and this team regresses at all -- then McMillan may be in more trouble than we realize.
Am I expected that? Not really. If I had to bet, I would bank on the Pacers winning 45-50 games and McMillan lasting at least another season. But if we're looking for potential hot seat situations, we can't ignore the potential downside here. If they underachieve, McMillan may be the fall guy. chances of firing: 20%
(8) N.Y. Knicks: David Fizdale
We can't judge David Fizdale too harshly based on his 17-65 record in year one. After all, tanking and landing a top 3 pick was all part of the plan. But what's the plan going forward? After striking out with the superstars in free agency, the Knicks signed a bunch of B+ and C+ players to big money. With it, they've attempted to re-set expectations. Instead of landing superstars in 2019, they're going to land them in 2021! Hopefully?
In the meantime, David Fizdale should be able to survive until then. His team is still young, and features first and second year players like R.J. Barrett, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, and Dennis Smith. Practically speaking, the veterans like Julius Randle and Bobby Portis are meant to supplement that rebuilding movement. Fizdale should be allowed to develop this group, and be afforded some growing pains in 2019-20 and again in 2020-21.
However, there are a few factors working against him. The front office may fancy themselves a playoff contender out East, which may go sour by the end of the year. Moreover, that front office isn't exactly on solid ground themselves after getting pounded by the press this summer. Dolan may want a complete fresh start after this year. More than that, there's a non-zero chance James Dolan leaves town himself, and some super-billionaire like Jeff Bezos uses his change jar to buy the team and mold it into his image. At the end of the day, there's more uncertainty with this situation than a second-year coach would like to see. chances of firing: 20%
(7) Chicago: Jim Boylen
As a well-respected defensive coordinator, Jim Boylen's name has always been bandied about for head coaching jobs in the past. He finally got his opportunity last season after taking over for apple pie Fred Hoiberg in mid-season.
At first, it did not go well. Jim Boylen had about as rocky of a start as you can imagine, earning negative reports in the press about his drill sergeant attitude clashing with the locker room. Still, he turned that perception around and had a decent finish to the year and earned some "buy in" from the players. Better yet, his Chicago Bulls may be a darkhorse contender for the # 8 seed. They have offensive stars in Zach LaVine and Lauri Markkanen already, so an improved defense may vault them closer to .500. Even if that doesn't happen (yet), Boylen should feel safe knowing he has the backing of the front office.
Of course, that also ties Boylen's fate to that front office. Ownership has tended to leave Gar Forman and John Paxson alone, but it's not a lifetime appointment. If this team doesn't improve enough (and wins say, 25 or 30 games), then there may be a total housecleaning here. I'm a little more optimistic on the Bulls' chances of winning 35-40 games than others, but we can't rule a potential disaster out. chances of firing: 25%
(6) Philadelphia: Brett Brown
After a long dark winter, Brett Brown and the Philadelphia 76ers have emerged from the "Process" intact. In fact, Brown has won more games in each of the last two seasons (52 and 50) then he did over his first three seasons combined (47). But with that comes raised expectations, which may be higher than ever. With Kawhi Leonard out of the Conference and the sheen off the Boston Celtics, the Sixers are the co-favorites with Milwaukee to make the Finals. Losing in the Conference Finals would be acceptable, but a R1 or R2 loss may be stinging.
Would that disappointment be enough to cost Brown his job? It's debatable. His contract extension runs through 2021-22, but that's never stopped a coach from being fired before. Fans may grow frustrated if Ben Simmons still can't shoot, or if Joel Embiid can't stay healthy, or if Philly's defense doesn't look as dominant as it should be on paper (despite Simmons, Embiid, and Jimmy Butler, they only ranked # 15 last season.) It's very possible that Brown becomes the scapegoat here.
Of course, we're talking "worst case scenarios" here. Chances are: the Sixers should be quite good and have a very good chance to make the ECF or the Finals. So while we can't rule out a firing, we wouldn't bet on it either. chances of firing: 30%
(5) New Orleans: Alvin Gentry
After coming over from Golden State, the exceptions for Alvin Gentry in New Orleans were sky-high. Suffice it to say, it's been an underwhelming return so far. Despite the (occasional) presence of Anthony Davis, his Pelicans have won less than 35 games in three of his four seasons on the job.
Oddly, Davis' trade demands may have helped Gentry survive another year. With the blockbuster deal, expectations get re-set and the window extends again. On paper, Gentry and assistant Chris Finch's run-and-gun style should suit this new roster well. Gentry is also someone who's earned high praise from his players and from the media in the past. If new execs David Griffin and Trajan Langdon didn't believe in him, they would have every opportunity to make a change this past summer.
But alas, that doesn't mean they won't have that same opportunity again next summer. Gentry's contract will be running out, and the team may decide to go with someone younger than him (he's now age 64.) To earn a longer leash, Gentry doesn't need to make the playoffs, but he has to show reasons for optimism. The Pelicans need to find a clear role for Zion Williamson, and earn some improvement from the cast-off Lakers. There's a lot of talent on the roster, but if the team stalls or looks like a muddled mess, Griffin may likely clean up the picture and chose his own head coach the next time around. chances of firing: 35%
(4) Houston: Mike D'Antoni
Veteran Mike D'Antoni may start spitting out Rodney Dangerfield routines, because the poor guy doesn't get much respect. Despite a great run here in Houston (records of 55-27, 65-17, 53-29), he's still struggling to earn a contract extension from the franchise.
And while owner Tilman Fertitta gets the blame for that, we can't rule out Daryl Morey's influence either. Morey has stated in the past that he thinks coaches' messages tend to run stale after a few years, and that philosophy has born out in their decision making. Jeff Van Gundy lasted 4 years. After him, Rick Adelman lasted 4 years. After him, Kevin McHale lasted 4 years (+10 games). This season, Mike D'Antoni will be entering the dreaded 4th year himself. The Houston Rockets' job essentially has strict presidential term limits, and he's verging on lame duck status.
To up the degree of difficulty even further, the team added Russell Westbrook to the equation. That's not to say it's the wrong decision by any means or that it won't work out (personally I'd still peg them for a top 3 seed), but we have to admit there's a sizable chance that it won't work out. The chemistry for Harden + Westbrook is going to be harder to calculate now that they've both had considerable success (and MVP seasons). And if something doesn't click, it will certainly be easier to blame D'Antoni than the two stars, whose massive contracts run for another few seasons. chances of firing/retiring: 40%
(3) L.A. Lakers: Frank Vogel
It's rare to see a first-year coach listed this high, but this is rare circumstances indeed. Frank Vogel will be joining the Lakers on a 3-year contract, which is quite light for a veteran like him. That fact showcases his limited leverage and his reduced reputation. The Lakers didn't high the coach who guided the Indiana Pacers to the ECF; they hired the coach who led Orlando to 29-53 and 25-57 records. In some ways, Vogel is lucky to have landed any job at all.
But there's no mistaking the fact that this particular job will come with some challenges. Primary among them: the threat of assistant Jason Kidd breathing down his neck. According to some, Kidd was the first choice of the front office. The conspiracy theory that they simply didn't want to hire him outright (due to domestic violence charges in the past) checks out logically for me. Vogel can't be too pleased to turn on the Summer League and watch his new star LeBron James sitting and laughing next to Kidd in Vegas either.
Will LeBron James, Rich Paul, and Jason Kidd conspire to stab Vogel like Caesar? The odds are high. But the question is a matter of "when?" James didn't love David Blatt, but allowed him 1.5 on the job before he got the boot. The Lakers may end up giving Vogel a full season and change to make his impact on the defensive end before considering a full-time change in midseason in 2020-21.
And hey, we can't rule out the "what if it works?" theory either. This team has LeBron James and Anthony Davis, for fuck's sake. They have a legitimate chance to be a great team, and even an NBA champion. If that happens, Vogel won't be going anywhere (at least, not for another year or two.) chances of firing: 45%
(2) Washington: Scottie Brooks
The Scottie Brooks era in Washington has been a disappointment, and it won't get much prettier from here. After the John Wall injury, the Wizards will be entering 2019-20 with one legitimate star in Bradley Beal and a wonky supporting cast. They're a motley crew of decent prospects who may be 2 years away (Troy Brown, Rui Hachimura, Thomas Bryant) and veterans who may be 2 years removed from quality play (Isaiah Thomas, Ish Smith, C.J. Miles.) Realistically speaking, Bradley Beal will have to put in a Herculean effort for this group to win 35 games.
If there's any reason to think the axe will not come for Scottie Brooks' head, it's that this Washington Wizards owner Ted Leonsis isn't the "off with his head!" type. He's been patience with the Washington Capitals hockey team, as well as this Wizards unit. Former GM Ernie Grunfeld lasted for years past his expiration date. And in turn, Brooks may be allowed to play out another year of his (pricy) contract. Brooks also has a reputation as a good player development coach, which bodes well for his prospects during a possible rebuild to come.
All that said, Brooks shouldn't be investing in D.C. real estate. The clock is ticking. I would fully expect new acting GM Tommy Sheppard to cut Brooks loose and choose his own coach at some point, but we can't be 100% confident it will happen after this season or after the next. chances of firing: 50%
(1) Oklahoma City: Billy Donovan
Given his new status as a /NBA punching bag, it's hard to under-sell just how much leverage Billy Donovan had when he first came to Oklahoma City. We're talking about a well-paid college coach who had won two separate NCAA titles at Florida, and had resisted the NBA calls for years. He arrived in OKC with a 5-year deal in tow, as well as a reputation as one of the best coaches in basketball.
As we now enter Year 5 of that contract, Donovan's reputation has been tarnished considerably. He's been blasted for perceived underachievement, particularly in the postseason. With Kevin Durant, the team blew a 3-1 lead to Golden State, and hasn't won a playoff series since (losing in R1 three times in a row.) In fact, they've gone 4-15 in playoff games since then. Donovan's managed to avoid getting the boot because of his reputation and big contract, but those excuses won't hold off the executioner much longer.
Personally, I'm a little bit of a "Donovan Defender." I don't think he's done as bad of a job as advertised. After all, his worst regular season record has been 47-35. He's kept the team afloat without Kevin Durant. And sure, he probably should have reined in Russell Westbrook, but it's not easy to harness an MVP. The fact that Donovan won 48 games with a guard who jacked up 20 shots a game (at 50.1% true shooting) is oddly impressive in a way. And heck, let's even defend blowing the 3-1 lead. It's not like OKC woke up one morning with a 3-1 lead under their Christmas tree; Donovan used some wily tricks and odd lineups to help earn those 3 wins in the first place.
But again, these rankings aren't about my perception of the coaches, but rather my perception of their situations and stocks. In theory, this OKC roster isn't half bad and could flirt with .500 if they wanted to pursue the playoffs. And in theory, if they blow it up, then a college coach like Donovan may be well suited for that rebuild. But in reality, I just don't see an extension here. The marriage has soured, resentment has built up, and a divorce may be best for both parties involved. chances of firing: 55%
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2019.07.02 15:29 HammField Alec Burks and Health Concerns

I want to start off by saying i love the signing. Alec Burks adds backcourt depth and much needed shooting to the roster, a very skilled player overall. He's been a player i have always enjoyed watching when hes healthy and i'm glad he has an opportunity to showcase his skills and ability on our team. With that said he has been unfortunate riddled with injuries throughout his career.
The No. 12 overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, Burks averaged seven points in each of his first two seasons, then jumped to 14 points per game in the 2013-14 season, second on the Utah Jazz to only Gordon Hayward. He made the first 12 starts of his career, and seemed primed to be an important part of Utah's future.
Unfortunately, he played just 100 games in the next three seasons combined. First, it was shoulder surgery, then a broken leg, followed by knee and ankle surgeries, which then led to general knee discomforts.
Alec Burks has played 53 games per season on average throughout his entire 8 season career. His highest for games played were (78) in 2013. His 2nd highest (64) three times and 3rd highest (59) followed by (42), (31) and (27). Here is what his last 6 seasons looked like. As you can see he's been injured every year since 2013-2018.
Thoughts: It will be critical for Billy Donovan to keep him on a healthy-strict MPG throughout next season to lower risk of a flare up or re-injury. This guard and his shooting is very important and will be vital come playoffs. Teams and individual players respect Alec Burks space making him that much more of a key player to the Thunders postseason and regular season, which makes it all that much more important on Billy Donovan to keep him healthy.
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2019.06.28 06:01 duneboggler 2019 NBA Free Agent Tracker

Aftershock

Day Player New Team Contract Source Old Team
6 Kawhi Leonard LAC 4y$142M Haynes TOR
Date Team 1 Team 1 Receives Team 2 Team 2 Receives Sources
7/5/2019 LAC Paul George OKC Danilo Gallinari, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, four unprotected 1st round picks, one protected 1st round pick. Two pick swaps Woj, Woj

"Must Bookmark" Reddit pages for the offseason.

  1. Please visit MrMittenz fantastic 2019-20 NBA Free Agents and Team Roster Tracker. This has every team's current signees and roster holes in a very easy to read format. His page is a must bookmark for the offseason.
  2. Perksofthesewalls (and moderator of /warriors and /nba) has taken over the reins of the FAQ on NBA Free Agency: 2019 Edition. This is an excellent resource to get to know what new rules and constraints your favorite teams are operating under.
  3. FlynnPatrick has a excellent summary of the relatively difficult to track List of All Undrafted Player Deals So Far.
  4. zandrickellison has five fantastic summaries of prospective under-the-radar free agents:
  1. onnekas has a superb Google Doc containing Depth Chart and Salary Cap Sheet infomation.

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  • 2015 Free Agent Tracker, 2016 Free Agent Tracker, 2017 Free Agent Tracker, and 2018 Free Agent Tracker for your reference.
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June 24 Last day for potential restricted free agents to exercise player options.
June 29
  • Last day for decisions on player, team and early termination options, unless individual contracts specify otherwise.
  • Last day for teams to make qualifying offers to players eligible for restricted free agency.
June 30
  • Official start of the 2019/20 NBA league year.
  • July moratorium begins.
  • Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams.
  • Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet.
  • Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts.
July 6
  • July moratorium ends (11:00am CT)
  • Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades.
  • The two-day period for matching an RFA offer sheet signed during the moratorium begins.
July 13 Last day for teams to unilaterally withdraw qualifying offers to restricted free agents.
July 15 Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned first-round picks; those players become free agents on July 16 if not tendered.

Signings

Day Player New Team Yrs ($M) Source Old Team Pos Age Type 2018-19 Salary
9 Patrick McCaw TOR ? ? Wolstat TOR SG 23.0 RFA $786,211
9 Alec Burks GSW 1y ? Charania SAC SG 28.0 UFA $10,500,000
9 Avery Bradley LAL 2y 9.7 Woj MEM SG 28.0 UFA $12,000,000
8 Jabari Parker ATL 2y 13 Charania WAS PF 24.0 UFA $20,000,000
8 JaMychal Green LAC 2y 10 Charania LAC PF 29.0 UFA $8,100,000
8 Tyus Jones MEM 3y 24 Charania MIN PG 23.0 RFA $1,634,299
8 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson TOR 1y ? Charania BKN SF 24.0 UFA $1,668,205
8 Delon Wright DAL 3y 29 Woj MEM PG 27.0 RFA $1,817,185
7 Alex Caruso LAL 2y 5.5 Woj, Woj LAL G 25.0 RFA -
7 Marcus Morris SAS 2y 20 Charania BOS PF 30.0 UFA $5,000,000
7 Ivica Zubac LAC 4y 28 Woj LAC C 22.0 RFA $1,297,506
7 Stanley Johnson TOR 2y 7.5 Charania NOP SF 23.0 UFA $3,212,511
7 Rajon Rondo LAL 2y ? Perkins LAL PG 33.0 UFA $9,000,000
7 DeMarcus Cousins LAL 1y 3.5 Woj GSW C 29.0 UFA $5,337,000
7 Quinn Cook LAL 2y 6 Haynes GSW PG 26.0 RFA $779,892
7 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope LAL 2y 16 Shelburne LAL SG 26.0 UFA $12,000,000
7 JaVale McGee LAL 2y 8 Shelburne LAL C 31.0 UFA $2,393,887
6 Danny Green LAL 2y 30 Woj TOR SG 32.0 UFA $10,000,000
6 Kawhi Leonard LAC 4y 142 Haynes TOR SF 28.0 UFA $18,868,625
4 Raul Neto PHI 1y 1.6 Charania UTA PG 27.0 UFA $2,150,000
4 Jake Layman MIN 3y 11.5 Woj POR SF 25.0 RFA $1,152,521
4 T.J. McConnell IND 2y 7 Woj PHI PG 27.0 UFA $1,117,908
4 Markieff Morris DET 1y 3.6 Charania OKC PF 30.0 UFA $573,295
4 Boban Marjanovic DAL 2y 7 Stein PHI C 31.0 UFA $7,000,000
4 Darius Miller NOP 2y 14.25 Woj NOP SF 29.0 UFA $2,152,500
4 Jeff Green UTA 1y 2.6 Woj WAS SF 33.0 UFA $2,393,887
4 Rodney McGruder LAC 3y 15 Haynes LAC SG 28.0 RFA $1,133,678
3 Wilson Chandler BKN 1y 2.6 Haynes, Scotto LAC SF 32.0 UFA $11,625,000
3 Emmanuel Mudiay UTA 1y ? Woj NYK PG 23.0 UFA $3,505,000
3 Luke Kornet CHI 2y ? Charania NYK PF 24.0 UFA $1,619,260
3 Jared Dudley LAL 1y 2.6 Woj BKN SF 34.0 UFA $10,000,000
3 Noah Vonleh MIN 1y 2 Krawczynski NYK PF 24.0 UFA $1,621,415
3 Ryan Arcidiacono CHI 3y 9 Charania CHI PG 25.0 RFA $1,349,383
3 Shake Milton PHI 4y ? Schultz PHI PG 23.0 RFA -
3 Glenn Robinson III GSW 2y ? Charania DET SG 25.0 Team $4,075,000
3 James Ennis PHI 2y 4.1 Charania PHI SF 29.0 UFA $1,733,358
3 Brad Wanamaker BOS 1y 1.6 Woj BOS PG 30.0 RFA $838,464
3 Willie Cauley-Stein GSW ? ? Haynes SAC C 26.0 RFA $3,837,619
3 Daniel Theis BOS 2y 10 Woj BOS PF 27.0 RFA $1,096,929
3 Dorian Finney-Smith DAL 3y 12 Charania DAL SF 26.0 RFA $1,133,678
2 Anthony Tolliver POR 1y 2.6 Charania MIN PF 34.0 UFA $5,750,000
2 Isaiah Thomas WAS 1y 2 Woj DEN PG 30.0 UFA $2,029,463
2 Kyle O'Quinn PHI 1y 2 Neubeck IND C 29.0 UFA $4,449,000
2 Kevon Looney GSW 3y 15 Charania GSW C 23.0 UFA $1,567,007
2 Jordan Bell MIN 1y 1.6 Haynes, Scotto GSW C 24.0 RFA $1,096,929
2 Tim Frazier DET 1y 2 Haynes MIL PG 28.0 UFA $210,692
2 Frank Kaminsky PHX 2y 10 Woj CHA PF 26.0 UFA $2,954,491
2 Alec Burks OKC ?y ? Young SAC SG 28.0 UFA $10,500,000
2 Wesley Matthews MIL ?y ? Woj IND SG 32.0 UFA $737,715
2 Edmond Sumner IND 3y ? Woj IND SG 23.0 RFA -
2 Richaun Holmes SAC 2y 10 Charania PHX PF 25.0 UFA $1,292,976
2 Jose Barea DAL 1y 2.5 All Things Mavs DAL PG 35.0 UFA $4,000,425
2 Enes Kanter BOS 2y 10 Charania, Charania POR C 27.0 UFA $653,556
2 Maxi Kleber DAL 4y 35 Stein DAL PF 27.0 RFA $1,096,929
2 Elfrid Payton NYK 2y 16 Charania NOP PG 25.0 UFA $3,000,000
2 Troy Daniels LAL 1y 2.1 Charania PHX SG 28.0 UFA $3,333,336
2 Austin Rivers HOU 2y 4.3 Woj HOU SG 27.0 UFA $1,155,323
2 Seth Curry DAL 4y 32 Woj, Stein POR SG 29.0 UFA $2,795,000
2 Michael Carter-Williams ORL 1y ? Woj ORL PG 27.0 UFA $9,929
2 Wayne Ellington NYK 2y 16 Woj DET SG 31.0 UFA $2,383,076
2 Tomas Satoransky CHI 3y 30 Woj WAS SG 27.0 RFA $3,000,000
2 Ish Smith WAS 2y 12 Charania DET PG 31.0 UFA $6,000,000
2 Cory Joseph SAC 3y 37 Haynes IND PG 28.0 UFA $7,472,500
2 Reggie Bullock NYK 2y 21 Charania LAL SG 28.0 UFA $2,500,000
2 Patrick Beverley LAC 3y 40 Woj LAC PG 31.0 UFA $5,756,757
2 Bobby Portis NYK 2y 31 Woj WAS PF 24.0 RFA $1,713,877
1 Robin Lopez MIL 2y 9 Haynes CHI C 31.0 UFA $13,503,875
1 D'Angelo Russell GSW 4y 117 Woj BKN PG 23.0 RFA $5,754,495
1 Mario Hezonja POR 1y ? Woj NYK SG 24.0 UFA $6,500,000
1 Mike Muscala OKC ?y ? Woj LAL PF 28.0 UFA $5,000,000
1 Ed Davis UTA 2y 10 Woj BKN PF 30.0 UFA $4,449,000
1 DeAndre Jordan BKN ?y ? Woj NYK C 31.0 UFA $22,897,200
1 Al Horford PHI 4y 109 Woj BOS C 33.0 UFA $28,331,557
1 Jimmy Butler MIA 4y 141 Woj PHI SG 30.0 UFA $18,467,976
1 Taj Gibson NYK 2y 20 Woj MIN PF 34.0 UFA $14,000,000
1 George Hill MIL 3y 29 Charania MIL PG 33.0 UFA $19,000,000
1 Julius Randle NYK 3y 63 Woj NOP PF 24.0 UFA $8,857,025
1 Nerlens Noel OKC ?y ? Woj OKC C 25.0 UFA $1,872,774
1 DeMarre Carroll SAS 2y 13 Charania BKN SF 33.0 UFA $14,500,000
1 Mike Scott PHI 2y 9.8 Charania PHI PF 31.0 UFA $4,320,500
1 Tobias Harris PHI 5y 180 Woj PHI SF 27.0 UFA $16,000,000
1 Rodney Hood POR 2y 16 Woj POR SG 26.0 UFA $3,472,887
1 Thomas Bryant WAS 3y 25 Woj WAS C 22.0 RFA $1,096,929
1 Malcolm Brogdon IND 4y 85 Woj, Woj MIL PG 26.0 RFA $1,260,854
1 Bojan Bogdanovic UTA 4y 73 Woj IND SF 30.0 UFA $10,500,000
1 Jeremy Lamb IND 3y 32 Charania CHA SG 27.0 UFA $7,000,000
1 Ricky Rubio PHX 3y 51 Charania UTA PG 28.0 UFA $13,750,000
1 Danuel House HOU 3y 11 Woj HOU SF 26.0 RFA $247,827
1 Al-Farouq Aminu ORL 3y 29 Woj POR PF 29.0 UFA $7,500,000
1 Trevor Ariza SAC 2y 25 Charania WAS SF 34.0 UFA $15,000,000
1 Garrett Temple BKN 2y 10 Woj LAC SG 33.0 UFA $8,000,000
1 Terrence Ross ORL 4y 54 Woj ORL SG 28.0 UFA $10,500,000
1 Kyrie Irving BKN 4y 141 Charania BOS PG 27.0 UFA $18,868,625
1 Derrick Rose DET 2y 15 Woj MIN PG 30.0 UFA $2,393,887
1 Kristaps Porzingis DAL 5y 158 Stein DAL PF 24.0 RFA $4,662,524
1 Thaddeus Young CHI 3y 41 Haynes IND PF 31.0 UFA $13,500,000
1 J.J. Redick NOP 2y 27 Woj PHI SG 35.0 UFA $12,250,000
1 Brook Lopez MIL 4y 52 Woj MIL C 31.0 UFA $3,382,000
1 Rudy Gay SAS 2y 32 Charania SAS SF 33.0 UFA $10,087,200
1 Khris Middleton MIL 5y 178 Woj MIL SF 28 UFA $14,000,000
1 Terry Rozier CHA 3y 58 Charania BOS PG 25 RFA $2,192,428
1 Dewayne Dedmon SAC 3y 40 Amick, Charania ATL C 30 UFA $7,050,000
1 Harrison Barnes SAC 4y 85 Amick SAC SF 27 UFA $23,609,631
1 Kevin Durant BKN 4y 164 Woj, Woj GSW SF 31.0 UFA $30,750,000
1 Jonas Valanciunas MEM 3y 45 Woj MEM C 27.0 UFA $16,000,000
0 Nikola Vucevic ORL 4y 100 Charania ORL C 28.0 UFA $13,250,000
0 Kemba Walker BOS 4y 141 Bonnell CHA PG 29.0 UFA $12,000,000
0 Klay Thompson GSW 5y 190 Charania, Woj GSW SG 29.0 UFA $17,244,863
0 Tyreke Evans BANNED 0 0 Charania IND SG 30.0 UFA $12,400,000

Overseas/G-League

DDay Player New Team Contract Source Old Team Pos Age Type 2017-18 Salary
8 Ekpe Udoh Beijing (中国男子篮球职业联赛) Unk Woodyard UTA C 31.0 UFA $3,280,000
3 Vincent Poirier BOS 2yUnk Charania Baskonia (Liga ACB) C 25.0 UFA
2 Matt Thomas TOR 3y$4.2M Varlas, Charania Valencia (Liga ACB) SG 24.0 UFA
1 Nicolo Melli NOP 2y$8M Woj Fenerbahçe (Euroleague) PF 28.0 UFA
0 Nikola Mirotic Barcelona 4y€26M Charania, ~~AS~~, Eurohoops MIL PF 28.0 UFA $7,500,000

Trade Tracker

Date Team 1 Team 1 Receives Team 2 Team 2 Receives Team 3 Team 3 Receives Sources
6/6/2019 ATL Allen Crabbe, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, 2020 1st round pick BKN Taurean Prince, 2021 2nd round pick Woj
6/15/2019 LAL Anthony Davis, 2023 1st round pick NOP Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, 2019 1st round pick (#4), 2021 1st round pick, 2024 1st round pick WAS Moritz Wagner, Isaac Bonga, Jermerrio Jones Woj
6/27/2019 Woj
6/19/2019 UTA Mike Conley MEM Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, Grayson Allen, 2020 1st round pick (Top-7 protected) and 2019 1st round pick (#23) Charania
6/20/2019 DEN Bol Bol MIA 2022 2nd round pick, $1.2M Cash Woo not Woj
6/20/2019 GSW Alen Smailagic NOP 2022 2nd round pick, 2023 2nd round pick, Cash Woj
6/20/2019 SAC Kyle Guy, $1M Cash NYK Ignas Brzdeikis
6/20/2019 WAS Jonathon Simmons, Admiral Schofield PHI $2M Cash
6/20/2019 ATL Solomon Hill, De'Andre Hunter, Jordan Bone NOP 2020 1st round pick (Top 10 protected), Jaxson Hayes, Nikeil Alexander-Walker, Marcos Louzada Silva Woj
6/20/2019 PHX Dario Saric, Cameron Johnson MIN Jarrett Culver Woj
6/20/2019 PHX Aron Baynes, Ty Jerome BOS 2020 1st round pick (MIL Top 7 protected) Woj
6/20/2019 IND T.J. Warren, KZ Okpala PHX Cash Woj, Woj2
6/21/2019 LAL Talen Horton-Tucker ORL 2020 2nd round pick, $2.2M Cash
6/21/2019 UTA Jarrell Brantley IND 2021 2nd round pick, $1M Cash
6/21/2019 UTA Miye Oni GSW $2M Cash
6/21/2019 ATL Bruno Fernando PHI two future 2nd round picks, 2019 2nd round pick Neubeck
6/21/2019 DET Tony Snell, Kevin Porter Jr. MIL Jon Leuer
6/21/2019 LAC Mfiondu Kabengele BKN Jalen Hands, 2020 1st round pick
6/21/2019 PHI Mattise Thybulle BOS Carsen Edwards, Ty Jerome
6/24/2019 POR Kent Bazemore ATL Evan Turner Woj
6/26/2019 CLE Kevin Porter Jr. DET 2020 2nd round pick (UTA), 2021 2nd round pick (POR), 2023 2nd round pick (POR), 2024 2nd round pick (MIA), $5M Cash Stein
6/26/2019 DET Deividas Sivydis DAL Isaiah Roby, 2020 2nd round pick (UTA), 2021 2nd round pick (POR)
6/30/2019 MEM Andre Iguodala, 2024 1st round pick (top 4 protected) $2M Cash GSW Julian Washburn Woj, Charania
6/30/2019 NOP Derrick Favors UTA 2021 2nd round pick (GSW), 2023 2nd round pick (GSW) Jones, Lowe, Woj
7/1/2019 MIN Shabazz Napier, Treveon Graham, Cash GSW ??? Woj
7/1/2019 POR Hassan Whiteside MIA Mo Harkless, Meyers Leonard Woj
7/1/2019 MIA Jimmy Butler (Sign and Trade) PHI Josh Richardson LAC Mo Harkless, future 1st round pick (MIA) Woj
7/1/2019 CHI Tomas Sataransky (S&T) WAS 2020 2nd round pick Wizards
7/3/2019 ATL Chandler Parsons MEM Solomon Hill, Miles Plumlee Woj
7/3/2019 PHX Kyle Korver, Jevon Carter MEM DeAnthony Melton, Josh Jackson, 2020 2nd round pick, 2021 2nd round pick Woj
7/5/2019 LAC Paul George OKC Danilo Gallinari, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, four unprotected 1st round picks, one protected 1st round pick. Two pick swaps Woj, Woj
7/6/2019 SAS DeMarre Carroll WAS Davis Bertans BKN Aaron White, Nemanja Dangubic Aldridge, Woj
7/8/2019 DAL Delon Wright (S&T) MEM two 2nd round picks Woj
7/8/2019 DEN Jeremi Grant OKC 2020 1st round pick [Woj](/
7/8/2019 GSW Omari Spellman ATL Damian Jones, 2026 2nd round pick Charania

2019 Retired Players

Team Player Pos Age Status/Option 18-19 Pay Source
DAL Dirk Nowitzki PF 41.0 UFA $5,000,000
MIA Dwyane Wade SG 37.0 UFA $2,393,887
CHA Tony Parker PG 37.0 UFA $5,000,000
CLE Channing Frye PF 36.0 UFA $2,393,887
IND Darren Collison PG 32.0 UFA $10,000,000 TheUndefeated

2019 Undrafted Free Agents

FlynnPatrick has a excellent summary of the relatively difficult to track List of All Undrafted Player Deals So Far.

2019 Restricted Free Agent Status

Team Player Pos Age 2018-19 Salary Tendered? Status Source
BKN D'Angelo Russell PG 23.0 $5,754,495 YES Charania
DAL Kristaps Porzingis PF 24.0 $4,662,524 YES Charania
SAC Willie Cauley-Stein C 26.0 $3,837,619 YES Amick
WAS Tomas Satoransky SG 27.0 $3,000,000
DEN Trey Lyles PF 23.0 $2,596,512 YES Woj
PHX Kelly Oubre Jr. SF 23.0 $2,307,138 YES Woj
BOS Terry Rozier PG 25.0 $2,192,428 YES Renounced Charania, Haynes
WAS Sam Dekker SF 25.0 $1,980,414
ORL Jerian Grant PG 26.0 $1,892,139 NO Aldridge
MEM Delon Wright PG 27.0 $1,817,185 YES Charania
ATL Justin Anderson SG 25.0 $1,764,662 NO Rowland
WAS Bobby Portis PF 24.0 $1,713,877 YES Portis
MIN Tyus Jones PG 23.0 $1,634,299 YES Woj
ORL Jarell Martin PF 25.0 $1,601,151
CLE David Nwaba SG 26.0 $1,512,601 NO Fedor
CHI Wayne Selden SG 25.0 $1,428,781 NO Westerlund
CHI Ryan Arcidiacono PG 25.0 $1,349,383 YES Westerlund
LAC Ivica Zubac C 22.0 $1,297,506 YES Charania
MIL Malcolm Brogdon PG 26.0 $1,260,854 YES Haynes
POR Jake Layman SF 25.0 $1,152,521 YES Woj
LAC Rodney McGruder SG 28.0 $1,133,678 YES Greif
DAL Dorian Finney-Smith SF 26.0 $1,133,678 YES MacMahon
ORL Khem Birch C 27.0 $1,096,929
GSW Jordan Bell C 24.0 $1,096,929 YES Charania
DAL Maxi Kleber PF 27.0 $1,096,929 YES MacMahon
WAS Thomas Bryant C 22.0 $1,096,929 YES Katz
BOS Daniel Theis PF 27.0 $1,096,929 YES Woj
MIA Duncan Robinson F 0.0 $1,030,062
WAS Chasson Randle PG 26.0 $869,094
BOS Brad Wanamaker PG 30.0 $838,464 NO Woj
TOR Patrick McCaw SG 23.0 $786,211
GSW Quinn Cook PG 26.0 $779,892 YES Haynes
HOU Danuel House SF 26.0 $247,827 YES Iko
ATL Isaac Humphries C 21.0 $47,371
BOS Jonathan Gibson PG 31.0 $44,495 NO Smith
NYK Billy Garrett SG 24.0 $42,634
MIN Mitch Creek G 27.0 $4,737

2019 PlayeTeam/Early Termination Option Status

Team Player Pos Age Type Option Salary Status Source
MIN Jeff Teague PG 30.0 Player $19,000,000 IN Krawczynski
CHA Bismack Biyombo C 26.0 Player $17,000,000 IN Charania
WAS Dwight Howard C 33.0 Player $5,600,000 IN Lowe
BKN Allen Crabbe SG 26.0 Player $18,500,000 IN Woj
OKC Patrick Patterson PF 29.0 Player $5,711,200 IN Charania
PHI James Ennis SF 28.0 Player $1,850,000 OUT
DAL Dwight Powell PF 27.0 Player $10,259,375 IN Townsend
BOS Kyrie Irving PG 26.0 Player $21,300,000 OUT Charania
BOS Aron Baynes C 32.0 ETO $5,453,280 IN Charania
MIA Goran Dragic PG 32.0 Player $19,217,900 IN Charania
MEM Jonas Valanciunas C 26.0 Player $17,600,000 OUT Woj
NYK Allonzo Trier SG 23.0 Team $3,551,100 IN Charania
PHI Jimmy Butler SG 29.0 Player $19,800,000 OUT Haynes
NOP Julius Randle PF 24.0 Player $9,070,000 OUT Charania
BKN Rondae Hollis-Jefferson SF 24.0 Team $3,590,000 OUT Woj
BOS Al Horford C 32.0 Player $30,100,000 OUT Woj
SAC Harrison Barnes SF 26.0 Player $25,100,000 OUT Woj
MIL Khris Middleton SF 27.0 Player $13,000,000 OUT Woj
CHA Michael Kidd-Gilchrist SF 25.0 Player $13,000,000 IN Charania
NOP Jahlil Okafor C 23.0 Team $1,702,486 IN Andrews
PHX Tyler Johnson SG 26.0 Player $19,245,370 IN Woj
MIA Hassan Whiteside C 29.0 Player $27,093,018 IN Woj
WAS Jabari Parker PF 23.0 Team $20,000,000 OUT Haynes
TOR Kawhi Leonard SF 27.0 Player $21,300,000 OUT Haynes
PHX Jimmer Fredette PG 29.0 Team $1,990,000 OUT Charania
TOR Marc Gasol C 34.0 Player $25,595,700 IN Woj
DEN Paul Millsap PF 33.0 Team $30,500,000 IN Woj
HOU Nene Hilario PF 36.0 Player $3,825,360 OUT Woj

2019 Free Agent List

Abbreviations
  • UFA - Unrestricted Free Agent
  • RFA - Restricted Free Agent
  • ETO - Early Termination Option
  • Player - Player Option
  • Team - Team Option
  • BPM - Box Plus/Minus (basketball-reference)
  • VORP - Value Over Replacement Player (basketball-reference)
  • RPM - Real Plus/Minus (ESPN)
  • WINS - "RPM Wins" (ESPN)
Team Player Pos Age Status 18-19 Pay Pts Reb Ast BPM VORP RPM WINS WS/48
HOU Iman Shumpert SG 29.0 UFA $10,000,000 7.4 2.9 1.8 -1.4 0.2 -1.95 1.14 0.045
MIN Jerryd Bayless PG 31.0 UFA $9,000,000 6.1 1.8 3.5 -5.1 -0.5 -5.36 -0.91 -0.003
SAC Kosta Koufos C 30.0 UFA $8,219,750 3.7 4.2 0.9 -2.5 -0.1 -2.74 0.13 0.063
UTA Thabo Sefolosha SF 35.0 UFA $5,250,000 3.8 2.5 0.5 0.6 0.4 1.48 1.88 0.115
MEM Justin Holiday SG 30.0 UFA $4,500,000 10.5 3.9 1.8 -0.8 0.8 -2.37 1.23 0.038
PHX Dragan Bender PF 21.0 UFA $4,468,800 5.0 4 1.2 -3.4 -0.3 -3.89 -0.39 0.027
LAL Lance Stephenson SG 28.0 UFA $4,449,000 7.2 3.2 2.1 -2.1 0 -2.02 0.79 0.049
HOU Nene Hilario C 37.0 UFA $3,651,480 3.6 2.9 0.6 -2 0 1.08 1.42 0.123
UTA Ekpe Udoh C 31.0 UFA $3,280,000 2.3 1.8 0.5 5.6 0.6 0.26 0.72 0.238
CLE Marquese Chriss PF 22.0 UFA $3,073,800 4.2 3.3 0.5 -6.2 -0.5 -5.75 -0.81 -0.023
DEN Trey Lyles PF 23.0 RFA $2,596,512 8.7 3.9 1.4 -3.3 -0.4 -1.95 0.82 0.05
SAS Dante Cunningham PF 32.0 UFA $2,487,000 3.0 2.9 0.8 -0.1 0.4 -3.21 -0.05 0.097
OKC Raymond Felton PG 35.0 UFA $2,393,887 4.3 1 1.6 -4.2 -0.2 -1.06 0.51 0.087
PHI Amir Johnson C 32.0 UFA $2,393,887 3.9 2.9 1.2 -0.7 0.2 -1.83 0.44 0.098
DET Zaza Pachulia C 35.0 UFA $2,393,887 3.9 3.9 1.3 0.2 0.5 0.19 1.76 0.128
ATL Vince Carter SG 42.0 UFA $2,393,887 7.4 2.6 1.1 -1.6 0.1 -1.08 1.81 0.07
DAL Devin Harris PG 36.0 UFA $2,393,887 6.3 1.6 1.8 -2.2 -0.1 -2.78 0.23 0.068
PHX Jamal Crawford SG 39.0 UFA $2,393,887 7.9 1.3 3.6 -6 -1.2 -5.7 -1.97 0.006
MIA Udonis Haslem PF 39.0 UFA $2,393,887 2.5 2.7 0.2 -14.1 -0.2 -1.41 0.07 -0.075
MIN Luol Deng SF 34.0 UFA $2,393,887 7.1 3.3 0.8 -0.6 0.1 0.79 1.01 0.101
DET Jose Calderon PG 38.0 UFA $2,393,887 2.4 1.3 2.4 -5.1 -0.5 -4.65 -0.6 0.043
PHX Kelly Oubre Jr. SF 23.0 RFA $2,307,138 15.2 4.7 1.2 -2.2 -0.1 -1.15 2.39 0.054
GSW Jonas Jerebko PF 32.0 UFA $2,176,260 6.3 3.9 1.3 0 0.6 -0.22 2.23 0.13
SAS Quincy Pondexter SG 31.0 UFA $2,165,481 1.8 0.8 0.4 -1.4 0 -1.43 0.3 0.128
LAL Tyson Chandler C 36.0 UFA $2,109,867 3.1 5.6 0.7 -1.3 0.2 0.33 1.98 0.114
CHA Shelvin Mack PG 29.0 UFA $2,029,463 7.5 1.8 3.2 -4.1 -0.7 -4.33 -0.91 0.034
SAC Corey Brewer SG 33.0 UFA $2,000,000 4.9 2.5 1.3 -0.1 0.2 -0.22 0.91 0.095
WAS Sam Dekker SF 25.0 RFA $1,980,414 6.1 3.1 1 -2.3 -0.1 -2.31 0.39 0.064
ORL Jerian Grant PG 26.0 RFA $1,892,139 4.1 1.6 2.6 -2 0 -1.99 0.67 0.085
ATL Justin Anderson SG 25.0 RFA $1,764,662 3.7 1.8 0.5 -3.3 -0.1 -2.18 0.29 0.043
NOP Ian Clark SG 28.0 UFA $1,757,429 6.7 1.5 1.6 -5.1 -0.8 -3.75 -0.39 -0.003
MEM Joakim Noah C 34.0 UFA $1,731,173 7.1 5.7 2.1 1.6 0.6 1.12 1.86 0.15
DEN Tyler Lydon PF 23.0 UFA $1,727,040 0.9 0.7 0.2 -2.5 0 -1.14 0.12 0.086
ORL Jarell Martin PF 25.0 RFA $1,601,151 2.7 1.7 0.4 -3.9 -0.2 -0.57 0.54 0.073
MIL Christian Wood PF 24.0 UFA $1,578,979 7.8 3.8 0.4 -3.3 -0.1 -0.65 0.35 0.151
CLE David Nwaba SG 26.0 RFA $1,512,601 6.5 3.2 1.1 -1.7 0.1 -0.37 1.65 0.069
PHI Furkan Korkmaz SG 22.0 UFA $1,482,760 5.8 2.2 1.1 -2.2 0 -1.86 0.54 0.079
CHI Wayne Selden SG 25.0 RFA $1,428,781 6.9 2.4 1.5 -5.1 -1.1 -5.19 -1.83 -0.009
CHI Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot SG 24.0 UFA $1,419,504 4.6 1.9 0.5 -5 -0.5 -5.26 -0.9 0.015
DAL Trey Burke PG 26.0 UFA $1,289,588 10.9 1.7 2.7 -2.5 -0.1 -0.29 2 0.081
NOP Cheick Diallo PF 23.0 UFA $1,133,678 6.0 5.2 0.5 -1.6 0.1 -0.72 1.39 0.14
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Toy Story 4 is a 2019 American computer-animated comedy film produced by Pixar Animation Studios for Walt Disney Pictures. It is the fourth installment in Pixar's Toy Story series and the sequel to 2010's Toy Story 3. It is directed by Josh Cooley (in his feature directorial debut) from a screenplay by Andrew Stanton (who had co-written the first three films) and Stephany Folsom; the three also conceived the story alongside John Lasseter (director of the first two installments in the franchise), Rashida Jones, Will McCormack, Valerie LaPointe, and Martin Hynes.[2] The film stars the voices of Tom Hanks, Tim Allen, Annie Potts, Tony Hale, Keegan-Michael Key, Jordan Peele, Madeleine McGraw, Christina Hendricks, Keanu Reeves, Ally Maki, Jay Hernandez, Lori Alan, and Joan Cusack.
The film continues from Toy Story 3, where Sheriff Woody and Buzz Lightyear, among their other toy friends, have found new appreciation after being given by Andy to Bonnie. They are introduced to Forky, a spork that has been made into a toy and embark on a road trip adventure. The film is dedicated to Don Rickles (who appears posthumously in the film via archive recordings) and animator Adam Burke, who died in 2017 and 2018, respectively.[7]:12[8]
Toy Story 4 premiered on June 11, 2019 in Los Angeles, California and was theatrically released in the United States on June 21, 2019, in RealD 3D, Dolby Cinema, and IMAX. The film was positively reviewed, with critics praising its story, humor, emotion, animation, and vocal performances.
Contents 1 Plot 2 Voice cast 3 Production 3.1 Development 3.2 Casting 4 Music 5 Release 5.1 Marketing 6 Reception 6.1 Box office 6.2 Critical response 7 Future 7.1 Spin-offs 8 Notes 9 References 10 External links Plot During Andy's childhood, R.C. is being swept down a storm drain. Woody leads a successful rescue operation with the other toys, but while they are busy, Bo Peep and several other toys are given away by Andy's younger sister, Molly; despite Woody's efforts to save her, Bo reassures him that part of being a toy is being taken away. Although Woody briefly considers going with her, they bid each other farewell.
Two years after Andy donates his toys to Bonnie, Woody and the other toys are happy in their new life. Worried that Bonnie will feel overwhelmed at her kindergarten orientation, Woody—whom Bonnie has recently been neglecting—sneaks into her backpack. Bonnie is nervous and almost cries after a classmate discards her arts and crafts supplies. Woody covertly recovers some of the materials from the trash, along with a spork. Bonnie turns the spork into a handmade toy she names "Forky". Forky comes to life in Bonnie's backpack, shocking Woody. At Bonnie's house, Forky experiences an existential crisis, believing that he was made to be trash and not a toy. Forky becomes Bonnie's favorite toy, but Woody must continually stop him from throwing himself away.
On Bonnie's family's road trip, Forky jumps out of the window and Woody follows him out. Forky finally becomes enthusiastic about being Bonnie's toy after Woody explains that Forky makes Bonnie feel the way trash makes Forky feel. They walk towards the RV park where Bonnie's family is staying. Woody spots Bo's lamp at a store, Second Chance Antiques. Searching for Bo inside, he and Forky encounter a doll named Gabby Gabby, and her sycophant ventriloquist's dummies, the Bensons. Gabby offers to take them to Bo, but soon reveals her true plan to obtain Woody's voice box, since her own is broken and no child will purchase her. Woody flees with Forky, but they are separated. Woody escapes from the dummies, but Gabby captures Forky. At a playground, Woody reunites with Bo and her sheep Billy, Goat and Gruff. Bo now lives the free lifestyle of a "lost" toy, but agrees to help Woody and Forky get back to Bonnie. Woody spoils a rescue attempt when Bonnie enters the store; abandoning Bo's strategic plan, he tries to rush himself and Forky back to Bonnie, but fails.
Meanwhile, Buzz searches for Woody on his own, seeking guidance from his inner voice; the button-induced phrases from his own voice box. Buzz finds himself as a carnival prize in a fairground between the RV park and Second Chance. He escapes with plush toys Ducky and Bunny. They meet up with Woody and Bo. Along with pocket toy cop Giggle McDimples and Canadian stuntman toy Duke Caboom, they try but again fail to rescue Forky. Woody is the only toy still determined to save Forky. Unwilling to risk everyone’s lives again, Bo angrily leaves with the others. Woody encounters Gabby Gabby again, who tell him of her longing to belong to the store owner's granddaughter, Harmony; Woody gives her his voice box in exchange for Forky.
Woody and Forky enter Bonnie's backpack, which she left at the store. As Bonnie is retrieving it, Forky watches Harmony reject Gabby. Woody sends Forky back alone, with a message for Buzz to meet them at the carnival's carousel. Woody comforts Gabby and invites her to become Bonnie's toy. Bo and her friends return to help and they head for the carnival. Trixie impersonates the RV's GPS and the toys manipulate the controls, while Bonnie's parents believes the rented vehicle is malfunctioning. When Gabby sees a crying girl lost in the carnival, she decides to become that child's toy; taking responsibility for Gabby, the girl approaches a police officer and is reunited with her parents. At the carousel, Woody and Bo share a bittersweet goodbye. Realizing Woody feels torn, Buzz tells him that Bonnie will be okay without him. Deciding to stay with Bo, Woody embraces Bonnie's toys and gives Jessie his sheriff badge. The RV arrives and Bonnie's toys leave with her.
In mid-credits scenes, Woody, Bo, Giggle, Duke, Ducky, and Bunny travel with the carnival, helping children win prize toys. On her first day of first grade, Bonnie makes another new toy: a female plastic knife, to whom Forky eagerly introduces himself.
Voice cast Main article: List of Toy Story characters Tom Hanks as Woody[9] Tim Allen as Buzz Lightyear[10] Annie Potts as Bo Peep[11] Tony Hale as Forky[12][13] Keegan-Michael Key as Ducky[14] Jordan Peele as Bunny[14][15] Madeleine McGraw as Bonnie,[16] she was previously voiced by Emily Hahn in the third film and the TV specials Christina Hendricks as Gabby Gabby[17] Keanu Reeves as Duke Caboom,[18][19] a Canadian daredevil toy Ally Maki as Giggle McDimples[17] Jay Hernandez as Bonnie's dad[7] Lori Alan as Bonnie's mom[7] Joan Cusack as Jessie[20] Bonnie Hunt as Dolly[21] Kristen Schaal as Trixie[22] Emily Davis as Billy, Goat and Gruff[7] Wallace Shawn as Rex[23] John Ratzenberger as Hamm[24] Blake Clark as Slinky Dog[25] June Squibb as Margaret the Store Owner[7] Carl Weathers as Combat Carl[7] Don Rickles as Mr. Potato Head[26][a] Estelle Harris as Mrs. Potato Head[20] Jeff Garlin as Buttercup[23] Maliah Bargas-Good as Lost Girl[7] Juliana Hansen as Miss Wendy[7] Steve Purcell as The Dummies[7] Timothy Dalton as Mr. Pricklepants[28] Jeff Pidgeon as Aliens[25] John Morris and Jack McGraw as young and teenage versions of Andy[29][7] Laurie Metcalf as Andy's mom[30] Lila Sage Bromley as Harmony Mel Brooks as Melephant Brooks[31] Carol Burnett as Chairol Burnett[31] Betty White as Bitey White[31] Carl Reiner as Carl Reineroceros[31] Additionally, Alan Oppenheimer, Patricia Arquette, Bill Hader, Flea, and Melissa Villaseñor voice cameos in the film as Old Timer, Harmony's Mom, Axel the Carny, the Caboom TV Announcer, and Karen Beverly respectively.[32] Rickey Henderson cameos as the voice of an Oakland Athletics bobblehead figure.[33]
Production Development In a 2010 interview, Lee Unkrich stated that Pixar was not planning a fourth film after Toy Story 3, but also that he was "flattered that people ask about it—it reminds me how much people love the characters, but it was really important to me with this film that we not just create another sequel, that it not just be another appendage coming off of the other two... there may be opportunities for Woody and Buzz in the future, but we don't have any plans for anything right now."[34] Tom Hanks and Tim Allen were signed on tentatively to provide the voices of Woody and Buzz; Hanks stated the following year that he believed Pixar was working on a sequel.[10][35] Rumors arose that Toy Story 4 was in production and slated for release in 2015, but Disney denied these rumors in February 2013, stating "nothing is official."[36]
Toy Story 4 was officially announced by Disney during an investor's call on November 6, 2014.[37] Then-studio head of Pixar John Lasseter, who directed the first two films and executive-produced the third, was scheduled to direct after writing a film treatment with Andrew Stanton, with extra input from Pete Docter and Unkrich. Rashida Jones and Will McCormack joined as writers, with Galyn Susman returning as a producer from Ratatouille.[38] Lasseter explained that Pixar decided to produce the sequel because of their "pure passion" for the series, and that the film would be a love story.[39] Lasseter felt that "Toy Story 3 ended Woody and Buzz's story with Andy so perfectly that for a long time, [Pixar] never even talked about doing another Toy Story movie. But when Andrew, Pete, Lee and [Lasseter] came up with this new idea, [he] just could not stop thinking about it. It was so exciting to [him], [he] knew [Pixar] had to make this movie—and [Lasseter] wanted to direct it [himself]."[40]
In March 2015, Pixar president Jim Morris described the film as a romantic comedy and stated it would not be a continuation of the third film, but a separate story from it.[41][42] The same month, Variety reported that Cooley was named co-director, having previously been head of story on Inside Out.[43] According to Lasseter, the film was kept so secret that even Morris and his boss Edwin Catmull had no knowledge of it until the treatment was finished, stressing that "we do not do any sequel because we want to print money" but rather to tell a new story in the same universe.[44] Lasseter stated at D23 Expo 2015 that the film would focus on Woody's relationship with Bo Peep and involved him and Buzz going on a journey to find her.[45]
At D23 Expo in July 2017, Lasseter announced he was stepping down and leaving Cooley as sole director, saying he could no longer commit to directing the film between his positions at Pixar, Walt Disney Animation Studios, and Disneytoon Studios, although he would still be involved in the film as executive producer,[46][47] however he was uncredited as executive producer in the final film. Jones and McCormack withdrew from the film in November 2017, citing “philosophical differences”.[48]
By January 2018, Disney confirmed that the screenplay had been written by Stephany Folsom, rewriting three quarters of Jones and McCormack's original script according to Potts in June 2018.[49][50] Folsom had collaborated on the screenplay with Stanton, who co-wrote the screenplay for the first two films.[51] According to Cooley, the center of the film's updated screenplay was around the relationship between Woody and Bo Peep. Bo Peep had been absent in Toy Story 3, explained narratively as Bo Peep having been given away. This had set the stage for the conclusion of the third film, with Woody getting the idea to give Andy's toys to Bonnie. Cooley said that when they thought about bringing Bo Peep back in this film, it would not only rekindle the romantic interest between Woody and Bo Peep, but also serve to have Bo Peep become a lost toy, a fear Woody has had through the series, and help to challenge his world view with their reunion.[52] According to animator Becki Tower, Bo Peep's new attitude and independence was in development long before the Time's Up movement started, and was not done in response to it.[53]
By September 28, 2018, recording for the film had begun. Tim Allen said that the film's story was "so emotional" that he "couldn't even get through the last scene".[54] Similarly, Tom Hanks said that the film's ending scene was a "moment in history".[55] On January 30, 2019, Hanks and Allen finished recording their characters' voices.[56]
Casting Most of the previous voice actors, including Tom Hanks and Tim Allen, signed on to reprise their past voices. Hanks stated in May 2016 that he had finished recording his first lines for Woody.[9][57] Annie Potts was confirmed to be returning as Bo Peep, after being absent from Toy Story 3.[11] Don Rickles intended to reprise his role as Mr. Potato Head, but died in April 2017,[58] before any lines were recorded as the script was still being rewritten.[59] According to Cooley, Rickles' family contacted Pixar and asked if there was any way to include him in the film. Pixar reviewed 25 years of archival material that Rickles had participated in, including unused lines from the first three Toy Story films, video games and other related media for the franchise, and other works, and were able to assemble enough material to use within the film.[27]
Tony Hale was cast as Forky, a homemade toy suffering an existential crisis. Hale has performed roles before with similar panicked characters, notably Buster Bluth on Arrested Development and Gary Walsh on Veep. When asked to voice Forky, Hale said, "A utensil's existential crisis? I'm in!".[60] Keegan-Michael Key and Jordan Peele were cast as a pair of carnival prize plush toys named Ducky and Bunny. Cooley said that while they brought them on to provide some improvised comedy to the film, "they were story motivated which elevated Ducky and Bunny and the film to a level I never could have expected".[61] Additionally, Keanu Reeves was announced to be voicing a character in the film,[18] named Duke Caboom.[19] Reeves said he was contacted out of the blue by Pixar for the role, seeking him to voice the part and letting him develop his own riffs on the character.[62] On March 22, 2019, Madeline McGraw, who previously voiced Maddy McGear in Pixar's Cars 3, was revealed to be voicing Bonnie, replacing Emily Hahn.[16] Comedy legends Carol Burnett, Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner and Betty White were added to the cast to voice a set of four toys that Bonnie played with as a toddler but had since outgrown, acting as "veteran" toys to help Woody prepare for when the same happens to him.[31]
Music Toy Story 4 Toy Story 4 Soundtrack.jpg Soundtrack album by Randy Newman Released June 21, 2019 Genre Score Length 72:37 Label Walt Disney Pixar chronology Incredibles 2 (2018) Toy Story 4 (2019) Onward (2020) Randy Newman chronology The Meyerowitz Stories (2017) Toy Story 4 (2019) Singles from Toy Story 4 "The Ballad of the Lonesome Cowboy" Released: June 5, 2019 Randy Newman, who composed and wrote songs for the previous three films, was confirmed to be returning at D23 Expo 2015.[3][63] Director Josh Cooley said that he hired Newman to return because "[he] can't imagine making a fourth one without Randy Newman".[7] Newman wrote new themes for Bonnie, Gabby Gabby, and Duke Caboom, with the latter's featuring accordions and mandolins to represent the character's memories of rejection.[7] He also wrote a "subordinate theme" for Forky.[7] Newman also wrote two new songs for the film, titled "The Ballad of the Lonesome Cowboy" and "I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away", with Newman also performing the latter.[7] On June 5, 2019, Chris Stapleton's version of "Cowboy" was released as a single.[64] The film's soundtrack, featuring Newman's score, Stapleton's and Newman's versions of the two new songs, and a new version of Newman's "You've Got a Friend in Me", was released on June 21, 2019, with the film.[64][7]
All tracks written by Randy Newman[3][7].
No. Title Length 1. "You've Got a Friend in Me" (performed by Newman) 2:39 2. "I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" (performed by Newman) 2:05 3. "The Ballad of the Lonesome Cowboy" (performed by Chris Stapleton) 1:51 4. "Operation Pull Toy" 5:19 5. "Woody's Closet of Neglect" 3:55 6. "School Daze" 4:22 7. "Trash Can Chronicles" 3:28 8. "The Road to Antiques" 2:41 9. "A Spork in the Road" 1:56 10. "Rubber Baby Buggy Butlers" 1:52 11. "Buzz's Flight & A Maiden" 4:07 12. "Ducky, Bunny, & Tea" 2:16 13. "Moving at the Speed of Skunk" 1:34 14. "Bo Peep's Panorama for Two" 2:36 15. "Three Sheeps to the Wind" 2:55 16. "Sneaking and Antiquing" 1:42 17. "Recruiting Duke Caboom" 1:16 18. "Prepping the Jump" 2:20 19. "Let's Caboom!" 4:07 20. "Cowboy Sacrifice" 2:06 21. "Operation Harmony" 4:24 22. "Duke's Best Crash Ever" 2:43 23. "Gabby Gabby’s Most Noble Thing" 3:02 24. "Parting Gifts & New Horizons" 5:05 25. "The Ballad of the Lonesome Cowboy (Soundtrack version)" (performed by Newman) 1:51 26. "Plush Rush!" 1:12 Total length: 72:37 Release The film was originally scheduled for theatrical release on June 16, 2017,[37] but was pushed back to June 15, 2018, while the 2017 release date was given to Cars 3.[65] It was later delayed again until June 21, 2019, while its 2018 date was given to Incredibles 2, which was further along in production.[66] The film was also shown in IMAX theaters, and unlike most Pixar films was not theatrically released with a leading short, marking the third time a Pixar film is released without a short, after the original film and 2017's Coco.[67][68]
The film had an early screening at Disney's Hollywood Studios on June 8, 2019.[69] It had its world premiere at the El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood, California, on June 11, 2019.[70]
Toy Story 4 will be one of the first new films to be released on Disney+, alongside Captain Marvel, Frozen 2 and The Lion King.[71]
Marketing The first teaser poster was revealed at D23 Expo 2015 alongside the first posters for Cars 3 and Incredibles 2.[72] Pixar screened early footage of the film at CineEurope 2018.[73] The first teaser trailer which introduced Forky, as well as his voice actor Tony Hale, along with the official teaser poster, was released on November 12, 2018.[74] The teaser features Judy Collins's recording of "Both Sides Now" (originally written by Joni Mitchell). A "teaser reaction" video, introducing the new characters of Ducky and Bunny, voiced by Key and Peele in a parody of their recurring Key & Peele skit "The Valets," was released the following day.[14] On November 28, 2018, a new international teaser poster was released.[75] On February 3, 2019, shortly after the conclusion of Super Bowl LIII, a new sneak peek was released, which re-introduced Bo Peep who had been absent from Toy Story 3.[76] After this reveal, the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals issued a complaint that Bo Peep was still using a shepherd's crook and considering it a "symbol of domination over animals", and requested that Pixar change this out before the film was formally released.[77] On February 15, 2019, a clip of the movie was shown during Annie Potts’ interview on Good Morning America.[78]
The official trailer for the film was released on March 19, 2019.[79] On March 27, 2019 an international trailer was released, showing more footage.[80] On April 3, 2019, the film's first 17 minutes were shown in CinemaCon, to a positive reception.[81] A series of TV spots, known as "Old Friends & New Faces", was introduced on April 18, 2019, with the first one featuring the re-designed Bo Peep.[82]
Reception Box office As of June 25, 2019, Toy Story 4 has grossed $155.6 million in the United States and Canada, and $123.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $279.2 million.[6] The film had a worldwide opening of $244.5 million, the 46th highest all-time and biggest for an animated film.[83]
Beginning on May 28, 2019, in its first 24 hours of pre-sales, Toy Story 4 set the records on Fandango for most tickets sold by an animated film in that frame (besting Incredibles 2), while Atom Tickets reported it sold nearly 50% more than the previous three-highest selling animated films combined did in their first day (Incredibles 2, Ralph Breaks the Internet and Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation).[84] The film opened alongside Child's Play and Anna, and was projected to gross $140–160 million in its opening weekend, with some predicting it could debut as high as $200 million. It played in 4,575 theaters, the second-most all-time behind Avengers: Endgame.[85][86] It made $47.4 million on its first day, including $12 million from Thursday night previews, the second-highest amount for an animated film behind Incredibles 2.[87] It went on to debut to $120.9 million, finishing first at the box office.[88][89] Although below projections, executives at Disney were pleased with the debut since it continued Pixar's "remarkable consistency" at the box office and showed "proof of audiences' long-time love for the Toy Story franchise".[90][91] Additionally, it was the best opening of the series and the fourth-highest of all-time for an animated film.[83][92]
In other territories, the film opened day-in-date with the U.S. in 37 countries (64% of its total market), and was projected to gross around $100 million abroad for a global debut of $260 million.[85] In China, where the film opened alongside a re-release of Spirited Away (2001), it was expected to debut to $15–20 million.[5]
Critical response On review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 98% based on 342 reviews, with an average rating of 8.41/10. The website's critics consensus reads, "Heartwarming, funny, and beautifully animated, Toy Story 4 manages the unlikely feat of extending – and perhaps concluding – a practically perfect animated saga."[93] Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, assigned the film a score of 84 out of 100 based on 57 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".[94] Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "A" on an A+ to F scale, while those at PostTrak gave it an overall positive score of 89% and a 75% "definite recommend".[83]
Peter DeBruge of Variety wrote that "Toy Story ushered in the era of computer-animated cartoon features, and the fourth movie wraps up the saga beautifully. At least, for now."[32] Writing for IndieWire, David Ehrlich gave the film a grade of B+ and wrote, "Clever, breathless, and never manic just for the sake of keeping your kids' eyes busy, the action in Toy Story 4 is character-driven and paced to perfection."[95]
Future In May 2019, producer Mark Nielsen said that Pixar would be focusing on making original films instead of sequels after Toy Story 4.[96] On an episode of The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Tom Hanks claimed that the film would be the final film in the series. He stated to Ellen DeGeneres that Tim Allen had "warned him about the emotional final goodbye between their characters Woody and Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story 4."[97] However, Mark Nielsen did not rule out a possibility of a fifth film, stating, "Every film we make, we treat it like it's the first and the last film we're ever going to make, so you force yourself to make it hold up. You don't get in over your skis. Whether there's another one? I don't know. If there is, it's tomorrow's problem."[98] Shortly after the film's release, Annie Potts said that despite her not knowing if another film would be made, she believes a lot of fans will be interested to see what the toys do next.[99]
Spin-offs A 10-episode short-form series, Forky Asks a Question, will debut exclusively on the Disney+ streaming service upon its launch on November 12, 2019. A short film titled Lamp Life, which will reveal Bo Peep's whereabouts between leaving and reuniting with Woody, will be released on Disney+ later in its first year.[100]
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2019.04.19 17:59 daprice82 Wrestling Observer Rewind ★ Jan. 15, 2001

Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives.
PREVIOUS YEARS ARCHIVE:
1991199219931994199519961997199819992000
1-1-2001 1-8-2001
  • The results of the 21st annual Observer Awards are in, so let's see what everyone thought was the best of the best in the year 2000.
WRESTLER OF THE YEAR - Triple H
MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER - Chris Benoit
BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW - The Rock
FEUD OF THE YEAR - Triple H vs. Mick Foley
TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR - Edge & Christian
MOST IMPROVED - Kurt Angle
BEST ON INTERVIEWS - The Rock
MOST CHARISMATIC - The Rock
BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER - Chris Benoit
BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER) - Mick Foley (for the 10th consecutive year in a row)
BEST FLYING WRESTLER - Jeff Hardy
MOST OVERRATED - Kevin Nash (2nd year in a row)
MOST UNDERRATED - Chris Jericho (also 2nd year in a row)
PROMOTION OF THE YEAR - WWF (2nd year in a row. Meanwhile, WCW didn't even make the list. There's a top 10 promotions, plus 3 honorable mentions, and WCW isn't a single one of them.)
BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW - WWF Raw
MATCH OF THE YEAR - Atlantis vs. Villano III
WATCH: Atlantis vs. Villano III
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR - Sean O'Haire
BEST NON-WRESTLER - Vince McMahon (followed by Stephanie in 2nd place and Shane in 3rd. This is back in the days when it was still kinda fresh and we weren't sick of all of them yet)
BEST TV ANNOUNCER - Jim Ross (3rd year in a row)
WORST TV ANNOUNCER - Tony Schiavone (2nd year in a row)
BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW - CMLL's March 17, 2000 Arena Mexico event (same show that MOTY winner was from)
WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW - WCW Halloween Havoc (WCW PPVs make up 8 of the top 10)
BEST WRESTLING MOVE - Dragon Kid's dragonrana
WATCH: the Dragonrana
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC - David Arquette wins the WCW title
READERS' PERSONAL FAVORITE WRESTLER - Chris Benoit
READERS' LEAST FAVORITE WRESTLER - Kevin Nash (ending Hulk Hogan's 6-year streak)
WORST WRESTLER - Kevin Nash (2nd year in a row)
WORST TAG TEAM - Kronik (by an overwhelming margin)
WORST TELEVISION SHOW - WCW Thunder (for the 2nd year in a row, and followed closely by WCW Nitro)
WORST NON-WRESTLING PERSONALITY - Vince Russo (once again, by an overwhelming margin. And finally ending Sonny Onoo's 4-year streak)
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR - Pat Patterson vs. Gerald Brisco (Evening Gown match from King of the Ring)
WATCH: Patterson vs. Brisco - Evening Gown Match
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR - Hulk Hogan vs. Billy Kidman (beating out New Blood vs. Millionaire's Club by 1 vote)
WORST ON INTERVIEWS - Vince Russo
WORST PROMOTION - WCW (3rd year in a row, and by a STAGGERINGLY overwhelming margin)
BEST BOOKER - Vince McMahon (3rd year in a row)
PROMOTER OF THE YEAR - Vince McMahon (3rd year in a row)
SHOOT FIGHTER OF THE YEAR - Kazushi Sakuraba (no one else even close)
SHOOT MATCH OF THE YEAR - Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Royce Gracie
BEST GIMMICK - Kurt Angle
WORST GIMMICK - Mike Awesome (That 70s Guy)
MOST EMBARRASSING WRESTLER - Hulk Hogan
  • NJPW's Jan. 4th Tokyo Dome show is in the books and it's hard to judge the impact of this show now. Dave thinks it'll be better to look back at this show a few months from now and see if the right decisions were made. They announced 62,001 fans (to play off 2001, get it?) but the real number was, of course, less. Most of the matches were very good but some of the finishes were questionable. Shinya Hashimoto vs. Riki Choshu ended with a non-finish that the crowd absolutely hated. They were super into the match but the finish was a bad copy of the Hashimoto/Ogawa finish from 2 years ago, pretending the match had turned into an out of control shoot. But nobody bought it and when the match was stopped, fans were literally screaming for refunds. And Kensuke Sasaki won the tournament to regain the vacant IWGP title, which the live crowd loved, but from a long-term business standpoint, Dave thinks it was the wrong move. For the good of the AJPW vs. NJPW feud, it's too soon for Kawada to be doing a clean job to NJPW's champion. There had been discussions for Kawada to win, and then challenge Tenryu in a champion vs. champion match, which would have been huge business but NJPW apparently balked at putting their title on an AJPW star. Also, during the show, they aired a video on screen with Inoki (who got the biggest pop of the show, even though he wasn't there in person) and during the video, Inoki talked about how the world was changing and how pro wrestling needed to change with it. He told fans not to be scared to support new concepts (and thus, the next several years of Inoki nearly running NJPW out of business with his MMA obsession has begun).
  • In what may have been the company's swan song, ECW's Guilty As Charged PPV is in the books, but there's more questions than answers about the future of ECW right now. There are only 2 shows left on the schedule, which are sold shows in Poplar Bluff, MO and Pine Bluff, AR this coming weekend. As of press time, nobody had gotten plane tickets for those shows yet. ECW has a March 11th date scheduled for their next PPV and they promoted it during this show, but no venue has been booked for it yet. Wrestlers received half their weekly pay at the show, which puts everyone about 7 weeks behind and morale was terrible, as you'd expect. Furthermore, ECW has indeed lost its TV deal on the MSG Network due to lack of payment, which means they no longer have television in their key market of New York. Their show scheduled to air on TV the night before the PPV ended up not airing and even worse, no television show has even been produced to air next week and it's looking like the company may not be doing anymore TV at all going forward.
  • Other notes from the PPV: The show drew a sellout crowd of 2,500 to Hammerstein Ballroom. Going into the event, ECW had promised on their website a surprise that would change the face of ECW, which ended up being the surprise return of Rob Van Dam. Needless to say, while cool, it wasn't exactly a groundbreaking moment that's going to save the company and a lot of people felt like Heyman stooped to Bischoff and Russo-levels of over-hype with that announcement, desperately promising something huge to draw in PPV buys but delivering something weak. Honestly, Dave thinks announcing RVD's return ahead of time probably would have generated more buys than hyping it up as a surprise. Tommy Dreamer vs. CW Anderson in an I Quit match was surprisingly good and even in defeat, the crowd gave Anderson a standing ovation when it was over. Missy Hyatt appeared in a backstage comedy skit. Sandman won the ECW title only to be attacked afterwards and challenged for a match on the spot by Rhino, who then won the belt from him. So Rhino is your new (and final) ECW champion. Then RVD came out to challenge Rhino for the belt, but Rhino left and RVD ended up pinning Jerry Lynn in a good main event. The show ended with a backstage promo with Justin Credible and Steve Corino uniting as a team to form a new version of the Impact Players. And with that, ECW's final PPV and in fact, final televised event ever is in the books.
  • Two obituaries together for 2 Mexican wrestling stars from the 1980s who died this week, Villano I and Kung Fu. Brief recap of each of their careers, but nothing much else to add.
  • A total of 7.1 million viewers watched wrestling on Monday night, the lowest total in several years. And you can't blame it on Monday Night Football either, because that wasn't on. The American Music Awards were on instead, but they did a lower rating than football usually does, so can't really blame that either. It was especially bad for Nitro, which set multiple records this week. Lowest rated unopposed hour ever, lowest rated opposed hour ever, overall lowest rated episode ever in the regular time slot, and even the lowest quarter hour rating for a segment in the history of the show (DDP & Nash vs. Natural Born Thrillers). Needless to say, this week was pretty much rock bottom for WCW Nitro.
  • AJPW is no longer planning to bring in RVD for their big Tokyo Dome show later this month because Motoko Baba feels they have too many foreigners for that show. They are interested in bringing Tajiri in at some point.
  • Scott Hall claims he's headed to work some shows in NJPW soon. But NJPW announced the cards for their upcoming tours and he's not on their list, so take it with a grain of salt until Dave can confirm otherwise (Hall was actually telling the truth here. He ends up spending a big chunk of 2001 working for NJPW).
  • Nell Stewart, who was the big sex symbol during the 1950s era of women's wrestling, passed away at 69 after battling cancer. She was nicknamed the Betty Grable of Pro Wrestling and was married to promoter Billy Wolfe, who had previously been married to Mildred Burke.
  • FX Networks, which is one of the channels Paul Heyman has been negotiating with, stated this week that they have no interest in airing a pro wrestling show. So...not great news for Heyman (or Bischoff for that matter, as we'll find out in the coming months).
  • The announcement of the sale of WCW is expected at any moment. People close to the situation tell Dave the deal was finalized over the past few days. Though for what it's worth, Dave says he's been hearing that every week for months now, so who knows anymore.
  • The TV situation with WCW is something that has been talked about a lot lately. TNT is planning to change direction in regards to its programming and it's been known for awhile now that Nitro would likely move to TBS in a year or so. But now, with ratings in the toilet, there's talk that TBS might want Nitro after all. It's thought that Turner may end up only broadcasting one wrestling show per week, probably on TBS, but it might not be Nitro and may not be Monday either. TBS also has a lot of other sports commitments, so depending on what night the show ends up on, it could also end up getting bumped around like the old days, when Georgia Championship Wrestling got shuffled around constantly so they could air Atlanta Braves games instead (and now we're getting into the real death of WCW, with Turner starting to realize that even if Bischoff buys the company, they don't want this low rated show on their networks anymore. And without TV, Bischoff's deal falls apart).
  • Dave takes a moment to remind everyone that 2 years ago this week, WCW drew nearly 40,000 fans to the Georgia Dome for Nitro, in a show that ended with the infamous fingerpoke of doom. On the same night, Mick Foley won the WWF title and Tony Schiavone made the "Ha, that'll put butts in seats" comment while giving away the result. Funny how quickly things change.
  • Nitro will be pre-empted again in two weeks because TNT is airing the movie "2001" since, well, it's now 2001. Dave says it's good that WCW got 2 weeks to get the word out, but this just shows how little TNT gives a shit about Nitro these days. It's the 2nd time in recent months that they have bumped Nitro in order to air a movie from 20 years ago.
  • Vince Russo is attempting to come back to WCW. His contract is similar to the wrestlers, in that his pay can be cut in half if he's gone too long, and he's approaching the time limit. But Dave doubts it'll happen. Apparently, the Turner people want him gone, so even if the company isn't sold, they don't want him back. And Bischoff doesn't get along with him either, so it's unlikely he'll bring Russo back either.
  • Various WCW notes: former announcer Mark Madden says he's working on a book about his time in WCW. They have been scripting all the wrestlers's interviews lately and because everybody is trying to memorize lines, it comes across like bad acting rather than natural talking. Dave doesn't seem to like the idea of carefully scripted promos (oh my, have I got some bad news for him). Film critic Roger Ebert listed "Ready To Rumble" as one of the worst movies of the year. Dave says WCW's big mistake was marketing this movie to wrestling fans and then releasing a turd of a movie that basically insulted all wrestling fans.
  • Backstage WCW announcer Pamela Paulshock was the latest cost-cutting release, so she's gone. Even though the sale isn't finalized yet, Eric Bischoff is basically pulling the strings when it comes to deciding who they're keeping and releasing right now, and he's trying to get rid of most of the women, since they have so many on the roster that don't really add anything other than the occasional eye candy. Torrie Wilson was obviously the most marketable woman they had, but she also had the highest contract, so she was the first one they cut loose weeks ago.
  • Notes from Raw: it opened with a promo that involved Vince, Austin, and Angle. And out of the 3, Angle was by far the best talker in the ring, which Dave never would have guessed was possible less than a year ago, and goes to show just how far Angle has come as an all-around performer. Dean Malenko worked a match, despite the fact that he had his knee scoped only 4 days earlier, but to be fair, he didn't do much. Angle vs. Austin was the main event, and it was the best match on Raw in a long time, with Austin looking better in the ring than he did before the neck injury, and even took about 10 different variations of suplexes from Angle. And Triple H returned to cost him the match to end the show with a crazy hot angle. It ended with them playing Triple H's new music (the same Motorhead song he still uses to this day)
  • Notes from the recent Smackdown tapings: The Prototype (John Cena) worked a dark match and looked pretty impressive. There was a match with Test vs. K-Kwik that is going to have to be heavily edited because Kwik missed spot after spot, including one move 3 times in a row that was supposed to lead to the finish. Hey, everybody has an off night sometimes, it happens.
  • Some details on Jesse Ventura's XFL contract. It calls for him to announce 12 games. Also, he can't be referred to as "governor" on the broadcasts or in any XFL promotional materials, in order to avoid the appearance that he's using his elected office for personal gain.
  • The Rock is going to be working a very limited house show schedule going forward because he's spending a lot of time taking acting lessons to prepare for his lead role in "Scorpion King" which starts filming in a couple of months. It'll be about 3 months and he's likely not going to be available much during that time. He probably won't do any house shows and will work very limited TV and PPVs.
  • The Rock also got a lot of publicity for appearing alongside Bill Gates at CES to reveal Microsoft's new video game console, the XBox (as if that thing is ever gonna take off, pfft...)
WATCH: The Rock & Bill Gates at CES 2001
  • Nothing much new on Jerry Lynn or RVD coming to WWF. They're still interested in both guys, but right now, Vince is trying not to do anything that would hurt ECW and isn't going to sign their stars until their situation is cleared up one way or another. WWF wrestlers were asked about their feelings on both guys and everyone who's worked with him said they love Jerry Lynn and want to see him in WWF. Those who have worked with RVD weren't as kind and there was a lot of negativity to the idea of bringing him in, so WWF is a little more cautious about him right now. But they'll probably both end up in WWF eventually.
  • WWF is starting a new web site at WWFParents.com to help parents decide whether or not to let their kids watch WWF programming, in response to all the negative publicity from the PTC.
  • Jim Ross met with Shawn Michaels recently and they discussed the possibility of him coming back for a limited schedule and doing a few matches. Ultimately, it's up to Vince but within the company, a lot of people aren't big on the idea. Naturally, there's concern over Shawn's usual behavior. If he goes out publicly shit-talking the company again or throws a temper tantrum when he's asked to do something he doesn't want to do, then what? It's worth noting that Shawn's 5-year, $750,000-per-year contract expires in a few months. Dave says if Shawn wants to come back, it'll have to be soon. Otherwise, he'll likely go to WCW when he's free, since that's where Nash is. But whether Shawn can resume a limited schedule or not depends on how his back holds up after one match. If he does okay in the ring and stays out of trouble backstage, they may continue to have him work the occasional big show.
  • The plug you saw on Raw for "Tough Enough" is actually an idea for a new 13-week show on MTV. WWF is recruiting men and women who want to be wrestlers and it will be a reality show where they whittle it down to one male and one female winner, who would then be given developmental contracts. Dave notes that everyone is trying to copy the success of Survivor these days.
  • Dave finally read the full Vince McMahon Playboy interview and as is par for the course with Vince, there were the usual exaggerations and half-truths. But it was still pretty interesting. Vince claimed that very few of the WWF wrestlers hang out at the bar and drink or do drugs anymore, which Dave says everyone backstage laughed at because that's not even remotely true. Vince admitted that they may have pushed some angles too far, such as the Mark Henry/transvestite angle awhile back. He talked about the years when WCW was winning the war, saying it was only because Ted Turner was paying all the top stars more money (to this day, the WWE narrative is that WCW was only winning the war because Ted Turner spent a bunch of money buying all Vince's top stars. They still portray it as a Vince vs. Ted Turner issue, when in reality, Ted Turner could barely have cared less what was happening in the wrestling war. Bischoff rarely gets the full credit he deserves for using those top stars to simply produce a much better product than WWF was doing at the time).
  • In another recent interview, Linda McMahon noted that the company has toyed with the idea of an all-WWF cable channel but said it's a long-term goal, not any time soon (how does 2014 sound?)
MONDAY: WCW officially being sold to Fusient Media and Eric Bischoff, details on future WCW plans, Sid Vicious suffers horrific injury at WCW Sin PPV, the final shows of ECW, and more...
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2019.03.12 20:53 nadoperon 2019 Free Agency - Lakers possible Courses of Action

This was a post made in response to someone in this subreddit that said: "Someone should make a post about our possible Courses of Actions", so there you go.

Lakers Cap Situation

60,810,795 in active roster spot
4,463,400 1st rounder = 65,274,195
3,560,648 in 4 rosters cap holds = 68,834,843
5,000,000 dead cap hold for Luol Deng = 73,834,843
 
Cap space: 35,165,157 => 32,700,000 is 30% minimum.+ 2,465,157 million dollars in additional cap space*
 
*:Which will probably be less than the 10+ veteran minimum ($2,393,887 this year).
 
Interesting fact: They would have about *34,1 million dollars** with Zubac's cap hold.*
 
To Clear more cap space: Lakers could clear trading players into cap space:
 
Player X (his salary - empty roster cap hold)
Mo Wagner: $1,173,358 -> 36,35 million
Isaac Bonga: $526,660 -> 35,69 million
2019 1st rounder (9th pick): $3,573,238 -> 37,738 million
(that's an interesting idea imo, possibly trading a 2019 1st rounder for a similar value 2020 1st rounder to a team like the Pistons, would get you a slightly worse pick but in a best draft while also clearing cap space)
 
Clearing all 3 of them: 39,438 million dollars in reasonable achievable cap space.
Considering the 3 cap sheet cleaning moves: With 19.9 million dollars in Hart, Kuzma, Ingram, Ball + 6,7 in cap space after a max sing, the Lakers could theoretically sign and trade a 26.6 million dollars player.
 

COURSE OF ACTIONS

  1. Sign a Max Player and filling the rest of the roster with minimum and the room MLE (projected $4,760,000).
  2. Sign multiple good NBA players on long term deals, looking for assets that you could turn later into another star.
  3. Clearing house and going for 1 max player + a 26.6 million dollar sign and trade player (maybe a max player willing to take less to play for the Lakers). This option could be also instead of sign-and-trade, actually trading for a player, like Bradley Beal.
  4. If 1 fails, keeping max space for 2020*, the 2018 FA plan, signing 1 years, but with an improved strategy that I will discuss in this topic.
*(what I don't project that could actually happen unless the Lakers traded Ingram or let him go)

COURSE No 1:

The Max Players available
ESPN Ranking Player
8 Kawhi Leonard
14 Jimmy Butler
19 Klay Thompson
20 Kyrie Irving
27 Kemba Walker
35 Khris Middleton
60 Tobias Harris
69 DeMarcus Cousins
-- Nikola Vucevic
That's an obvious one, this is the beggining of the year ESPN ranking of players for 2018-19 season.
Class A
The first 4 guys are guys that you would just sign if you have the max players, because these are true max guys, whose value to a team is bigger than the 30% contract they can get. They're great championship deals.
Kemba did have a 59.8 million dollars season in 2017-18 accourding to CARMELO proj., but he'll be 29 in the 2019 FA and being a small guard, his play could deteriotate badly through the contract
Lakers priorities should be:
  1. Kawhi Leonard
  2. Kyrie Irving
  3. Klay Thompson
  4. Jimmy Butler
Reasoning: Kawhi is a top 5 nba players that would fit perfectly with LeBron, giving him a rest from defending the opposite team's best wing, what only Butler also will give you. Kyrie Irving gives you the elite individual playmaking that LeBron values, that could be guard next to Ball (who's big enough to guard 2s) and would be a good fit in the Lakers.
Klay would also be a great fit, and imo would give you about the same impact as Kyrie (although Kyrie is a better player), only that Kyrie's younger and has more trade value around the league. Jimmy Butler doesn't fit well with the lack of shooting in the Lakers, and his skills overlap a bit with LeBron.
 
Class B
Kemba, Middleton, Harris, Cousins and Vucevic are the plan B, that's 4 players that I could see getting the max, but that I would seriously start looking the Course of action no.2, these player are/may be worth the max, but not much more than that, so you're not really getting a great deal here, because of the lack of upside (overvalue) in their contract. If they do go for the class B players:
Lakers priorities should be:
  1. Kemba Walker
  2. Khris Middleton
  3. Tobias Harris
  4. Nikola Vucevic
  5. DeMarcus Cousins
Kemba gives you class A production, although his role would reduce from the Hornet's one, in similar way to Kyrie.
Middleton is 1 year older than Harris but Middleton gives you significantly better wing defense.
Than it comes the Centers. Lakers defense has taken a dip recently and it shows how fragile it could be if they don't add good defensive players, and the Center position is the most impactful one while also being the easier to get production with small money. Both Vucevic and Cousins give you quality offense, but are lacking at D, in a way that I'd rather add a comparable offense at the Wing or Guard position while adding a good defensive center (Like Nerlens Noel on Thunder) for cheap while guard defense isn't that impactful and wing defense comes at a premium value.
 

Filling the Roster with minimum and the MLE

If the Lakers signed a max player they would have 2.4 million dollars in cap space, which really can't get you anything, they could and should use it to pay their 2019 2nd rounder a long 4 year contract, and filling the roster with minimum players and 1 room MLE.
I ranked some of the players that I think would fit well what the Lakers want to do alongside the chance of them getting only the minimum this off-season.
% of min. Players
50-90% David Nwaba, Rodney McGruder, Corey Brewer, Vince Carter , Dante Cunningham, Ray Felton, Ian Clark, James Ennis, Deng, Howard, Sefolosha, Looney, Ish
20-50% Richaun Holmes, Marjanovic, Jared Dudley, Anthony Tolliver, Seth Curry, Luc Moute, Justin Holiday, Alec Burks, Wilson Chandler, KOQ, Garrett Temple, JaMychal Green, Robin Lopez, Demarre Carroll
10-20% Iman Shumpert, Mike Scott, Austin Rivers
<5% Reggie Bullock, Tyreke Evans, KCP
We can't know what ´players will be: 2019 1st rounder and 2nd and the Max guy that they signed, so I'd do the best to figure out how to improve the team that they would have without them, with these players being the extra, although it's the ideal way to think here.
The Lakers would already have here:
Guards Wings Bigs Others
Lonzo Ball Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner 2019 1st
Isaac Bonga Brandon Ingram 2019 2nd
Josh Hart 1 max guy
LeBron James
So they already have 10 players and need 4 minimum players + 1 room-MLE guy. I would ideally focus on: backup 3PT shooting guards, Defensive wings, 3 PT wings specialists wing and 2 centers. Of the 5 players, the Centers are the easier to get for the minimum, followed by the 3PT shooting guards, and the Defensive wing and the 3 Point specialist I would try to get 1 for the minimum and 1 for the room-MLE. Though the need for a center it's a very immediate one, and if they could get Noel for the Room-MLE I'd probably do it.
Ideally it would look like:
Guards Wings Bigs Others
Lonzo Ball Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner 2019 1st
3PT guard Brandon Ingram Athletic Big 2019 2nd
Isaac Bonga Josh Hart Big 1 max guy
LeBron James
Wing defender
Wing 3PT specialist
 
Candidates for each role:
3PT guard: Ian Clark, Raymond Felton, Austin Rivers, Seth Curry
Athletic Big: Howard, Holmes,KOQ, JaMychal Green, Kevon Looney
Others Big: Marjanovic, RoLo
Wing defender: David Nwaba, Corey Brewer, Demarre Carroll, Vince Carter, James Ennis, Deng, Sefolosha, Shumpert
3PT specialist: Mike Scott (PF), Reggie Bullock
As you can see, according to my analysis, the harder position to get for the minimum would be the 3 PT specialist, as it's highly unlikely that theses players would be available for the minimum. So I'd probably try to go for the 3PT specialist in the Room-MLE for a guy like Wayne Ellington, Reggie Bullock or KCP (though his 3 PT percentage isn't great).
A positive outcome here could getting: 2 fo Holmes, Kyle O'Quin and RoLo, Seth Curry and James Ennis/Demarre Carroll.
 
The MLE
So now you already have your minimum players, and it's time talk about players that could be available for the Room MLE for the LA Lakers, so here comes other list:
% of Room-MLE Players
50-90% Howard, IT, Luc Moute, TJ McConnell, R Lopez, Rondo, Payton, Austin R, W. Chandler, Seth Curry, KOQ, Marjanovic, Holiday, Lance, Mike Scott, Burks, Gortat, Reggie Bullock
10-50% MKG, Payton, Temple, Shumpert, Ed Davis, Kanter, Stanley J, Wayne Ellington,
<10% Dedmon, CoJo, Layman, RHJ, Noel
We've already talked about 3 PT specialist being the harder ones to get in this group, so I'd probably go for one of Wayne Ellington or Reggie Bullock, with that being a positive outcome.
 
 

Course no.2: Signing mid-sized FAs

So they've striked out on max FAs or decided to not pursue Class B max FAs. Who can they get?
The plan here is to get true value and upside with a mix of looking for underpaid players along these players fitting well with LeBron. We all know the kind of player that LeBron makes certains kinds of players signifcantly better: the 3 and D wings and guards, along athletic bigs, good O Reb. bigs that take advatange of LeBron's gravity at the lane.
The candidates:
Tiers Players
Tier 1 Mirotic, D'Angelo Russell,
Tier 2.1 Jeremy Lamb, Brogdon, Aminu, Favors, Ariza, Danny Green, Thaddeus Young, Rudy Gay, Bojan Bogdanovic
Tier 2.2 Julius Randle, Brook Lopez, JJ Redick, Rose, Rubio, DAJ, Rozier, Collinson, Tyreke Evans, Pat. Beverley, Taj Gibson, Marcus Morris
Tier 2.3 Bobby Portis, KCP, Oubre Jr., Wes Matthews, Terrence Ross, Tomas Satoransky, Rodney Hood, Tyus Jones, Noah Vonleh, Jeremy Lin
Tier 3.1 Luc Mbah'a Moute, Robin Lopez, Noel, Rondo, Payton, Garrett Temple, Jarabi Parker, Wilson Chandler, Ed Davis, Cory Joseph, Mike Scott, RHJ, Shumpert, DeMarre Carroll, Anthony Tolliver, Dewayne Dedmon, Zubac
Tier 3.2 Austin Rivers, Looney, IT, Dwight Howard, TJ McConnell, Seth Curry, JaMychal Green, Justin Holiday, Marjanovic, Lance, Jake Layman, KOQ, Stanley Johnson, Burks, Gortat, Kanter, Zaza Pachulia, Noah, Faried
This is a list that focus on the FA appeal of each player, in a way that I could put it this way:
Tier Money next contract
Tier 1 17-25 million
Tier 2 9-17 million
Tier 3.1 room MLE - full MLE
Tier 3.2 min-room or tax MLE
So I've already highlighted players that I'd like on the Lakers + could be available, so I've rearrenged the FAs accourding to how much would I like the Lakers to sign them. Lakers favorites table:
Tier Players
Tier 1 Nikola Mirotic, Danny Green, Bojan Bogdanovic
Tier 2 Ariza, Lamb, Aminu, B. Lopez, Wes Matthews, JJ Redick, Nerlens Noel, Dewayne Dedmon
Tier 3.1 RoLo, Tomas Sato, Noah Vonleh, Jeremy Lin, Luc Moute, Garrett Temple, Ed Davis, Mike Scott, DeMarre Carroll, Kevon Looney, Justin Holiday, Tolliver
Tier 3.2 KOQ, Noah
Danny Green, Dewayne Dedmon seem like perfect Lakers fits, while Wes Matthews and Brook Lopez (age and mobility) seem like slight less perfect, but still great fits.
Although what I believe the right strategy isn't to pick the "perfect" players, but look for the underrated and underpaid players, just like in 2018 FA had Brook Lopez, Mike Scott, Treveon Graham, Ed Davis and others that went for cheap.
With 35.17 million dollars in cap space, picking at least 1 good deal of each Lakes favorite table tiers (or 2 from tier 2 if you can't get a tier 1), to give you a example:
Player Money
Danny Green 12.5 million per 3 years
Wes Matthews 10 million per 3 years
Dewayne Dedmon 7 million per 2 years
Justin Holiday 4.5 million per 2 years
KOQ/Noah/Looney whichever acc. min
That would also sum to 34 million dollars, while reducing the 3.56 million in empty rosters cap hold, giving you a 30.45 million dollars cap impact, which would be enough for the lakers to keep Reggie Bullocks 4.6 mi cap hold.
You would also have an space to add a room-MLE player, that I've already talked about the options on Course No. 1.
That would a good Course no. 2 FA, with under the market values (underpays) that I'd like to pick up.
But what if that's a way to maximize you cap space even more?

The 2017 FA Miami Heat Case

The Miami heat had the Tyler Johnson salary bumb on 2018 and they knew they wouldn't have any cap space in 2018 and 2019, so they had to maximize cap space while signing Olynyk, James Johnson and Dion Waiters.
Kelly Olynyk and Dion Waiters contracts are the one that I want to laser on here.
Olynyk signed a 4 year 44.4 million dollars ascending contract, while the Heat made it atractive to him by offering him a reasonable ** trade kicker** (lesser of 5% bonus or $2million dollars on rest of the contract) and unlikely incentives that are a mechanismo that won't cost agaisnt the cap.
A incentive is "unlikly" if the player didn't achieve in the season before he signed contract. So you can make a likely "unlikely" if you have the right kind of approach, examplifying: Kelly Olynyk had 1586 minutes on 2016-17 season, he would have a bigger role in the Heat so they gave him a 1700 minutes bonus that was actually worth 1 million dollars per year on 4 years of the total 1.4 unlikely bonuses he could get. a unlikely bonus can get to 15% of the original salary, and if rightfully used, can be a extension of your cap space.
Waiters had a 47 million dollars over 4 years contract, that also had 1.1 milion dollars in unlikely bonus that was 70 games, what's unlikely due to the fact he had an injury in 2016-17, also a very smart way to expand your cap space.
The Lakers have 35,2 million dollars in cap space, with 15% unlikely bonuses the Lakers could find a way "expand" their reach to 40.5 million, maybe giving them the ability to sign one extra mid-level money kind of player.
 
 

Course no.3: Getting LeBron 2 stars

So Course 1 has worked. Yet you'd like to add another star to make this Laker team an A+ level of contender, even thought it would probably cost your rotation guys. Why would you like to do that?
It's a 2010 Heat's and 2018 Butler 76ers logic, when they were turned into a really thin rotation in order to have 3 very quality players. With competence and mid-season moves and buyout, you could built a (really artificial one) squad and when you're deep into the playoffs, having the 3 guys will matter.
And how can you do that?
  1. Sign-and-trade along cap clearing or not: Like I've already descriped, if they trade into cap space 2019 1st rounder, Isaac Bonga and Mo Wagner, they could sign and trade Hart, Ingram, Ball and Kuzma and possibly get a 26.6 million dollar player alongside some draft compesation (although probably not a "fair" one) in the next years.
  2. Trade for an star.
So let's explore the possibilities

Plan 1(A)

In this occasion it could be something like a Vucevic or Cousins or Middleton guys that maybe didn't get the max and would like to play in LA for a little less or even (I know it's a stretch) D'Angelo Russell sign and trade, in case the Nets aren't confortable in giving him a 25% Max and they prefer to go another route.
Let's just speculate a Vuc + Kyrie + LeBron team, alongside some guys like Ennis, Kyle O'Quinn, McGruder, maybe Wayne Elligton for the room-MLE and buyout guys.
PS: Remember, here the Lakers don't have space to add 2 star FA, they'd have 2.45 million in cap after signing a max players.

Plan 2(B)

So that's a more interesting one, let's start with how much of money can the Lakers acquire in a trade:
Ingram + Ball + Kuzma + Hart + Mo + Bonga sum up to 23 million dollars in salary, could get you 28.75 million dollars in contract if you were to trade the whole house, but to get premium trade targets (they receive 25+ million) you have to put in at least 20 million dollars in the trade, what isn't achievable in any way unless you put both Ball and Ingram in the deal*
*Or if they made a complicated sign and trade composition, to keep Bullock (has full bird rights for 4,75 mi) after signing a max guy they would've to trade Mo Wagner into someone's cap space and than find a team to take a significant 3 years contract for Reggie Bullock in a sign and trade deal.
 
the players that could possibly be available. DISCLAIMER here: I know some of them are unlikely.
Players Enter FA
Anthony Davis 2020
Mike Conely 2020
Bradley Beal 2021
CJ McCollum 2021
Jrue Holiday 2021 (PO)
Aaron Gordon 2022
So Aaron Gordon is here. He doesn't really fit the Lakers that well, but he's the kind of player that you could think to add, young good nba players like him and Gary Harris Jr. who have teams that may be willing to let him go in order to give more minutes to player that are cheaper and younger and play the same position as them.
 
But let's keep it simple: The 5 wanted: How can they trade for this guys?
  1. Anthony Davis: After Ingram's clot, who has a 40% chance of having another clot in the 10 years and being shut down of his NBA career, Ingram's stock has taken a dip (Accourding to Brian Windhorst on his podcast) according to a number of executive, alongside Kuzma 31% 3P shooting, no Zubac, Hart playing badly and Ball's injury, is probably not going to happen, and if it happens it would be a really Billy King kind of offer or if both Knicks and Celtics just don't offer premium picks/players. My diagnosis: Not happening
  2. CJ McCollum: The problem here is that the Blazer have low incentives to rebuild, and unless they're really into Ingram or Kuzma right now, the Lakers would probably have to work into a 3 team deals, which usually is more costly than directing deal their younger guys.
Trade Sugestion: Maybe sending a Ingram + Ball + Mo (salary filler) for the Magic for Aaron Gordon that's sent for the Blazers alongside Hart + Bonga (salary filler) to get CJ McCollum. Likelihood: 20%
  1. Bradley Beal: Beal would demand a 2017 Jimmy Butler kind of deal or better, considering a lot of people considered that an underpay. He would make perfect sense and fit perfectly, also being very young, what also makes him costly. The Wizards supposedly never tank, but will they trade Beal? Not sure.
Trade Suggestion: LA send: Ingram, Ball, Kuzma, Hart, Mo and Bonga for Beal + Wizards heavily protected future first.
Is it an overpay? Probably but the Lakers can't really match salaries unless they trade everyone, or do this kind of deal:
Trade Suggestion 2: Reggie Bullock (27/3yrs sign and trade) + Ingram + Kuzma + Hart + Bonga for CJ McCollum.
That's more like it, but would they just take Bullock? Probably would have to fing a 3rd team to take him. And Bullock is costing extra if he's doing a sign and trade probably.
Likelihood: 40%
  1. Jrue Holiday: That's a very volatile situation because of the Davis talks, and this could be somewhat unrealistic.
Trade Sugestion Ingram + Ball + Hart + Mo + Bonga for Jrue Holiday + Frank Jackson (traded first into Lakers cap space) is a conveceivable deal for the Pelicans, that I think a desesperate Lakers would give a lot of thinking.
  1. Mike Conley
Age is a major factor to undervalue current play (2011, Moneyball) and Mike Conley still plays great basketball. The problem is he earns 32.5 million dollars what makes it basically impossible for the Lakers to get him unless they traded everyone. Not Happening, but maybe at the trade deadline it could be a great deal. Another one to think about: Kyle Lowry.
 
Conclusion
Even though it seems the obvious option to trade for another star, is hard to the Lakers to match salaries in the offseason even if they find themselves in the right situation, which is also dictated a bit by luck into falling in a DeMarcus Cousins in the Kings trade kind of situation, when someone's owner thinks Ingram is KD 2.0.
PS: If they striked out for max guys they could in theory trade someone's into their cap space, but in my opinion that would be a bad use of Lakers cap space, as they could turn that cap space and players into 125% +100$ more in the mid-season simply flipping players, instead of acquiring him and losing a 27,55 million dollars cap space, you would pay 21.97 million dollars in salary and acquire him in mid-season basically.
 

Course no.4: How to properly use your temporary cap space

You have 2 NBA teams:
  1. The Lakers, that signed in FA (+1 in buyout) 6 1 year players with a low chance of them keeping them in 2019: Rondo, McGee, Chandler, KCP, Lance and Beasley
  2. The Clippers, that signed Mike Scott, Luc Moute, Avery Bradley and had Pat Beverley, Tobias Harris, Marjanovic all in one year contracts.
You can see the problem here really isn't having 1 year guys, but what kind of guys you have, and if you are creative you can trasform you temporary cap space, that you plan to use on a max guy, into upside:
The 1 year upside contracts
So here there are 4 contracts that I'd like to analyze:
PLayer Money 2nd year guar. guar. date
Derrick Favors 33.8 mi over 2 years non-guar 7/5
Avery Bradley 24.96 mi over 2 years 2 million 7/3
Treveon Graham 3.16 mi over 2 years non-guar. 7/10
Shabazz Napier 3.79 mi over 2 years non-guar. ?
Dante Exum 28.8 mi over 3 years 3yr non-guar. ?
The Jazz also did that in 2017 FA, with Jerebko and Udoh non-guar. 2nd year, with the 7/9 deadline.
What's the advage of it? You actually get upside even with 1 year contracts, with the 2nd year being non-guar., in a way that you could trade him for more value or just keep in if you do strike out (what you can do due to the late guarantee dates).
That's the kind of deal I thought could be advantageous for the Lakers to do with both KCP and Julius Randle, or with other players they payed over the market value to sing them (Rondo, KCP, Beasley, probably Lance)
 
It's also interesting to the use the unlikely incentives structure on Favors contract:
Base Salary Likely Incetives Unlikely Inc.
$16,000,000 $900,000 $1,600,000
$16,000,000 $900,000 $1,600,000
That are unlikely and likely incentives in both years, what's very intersting. Unlikely incentives do not count against the cap, so it's a way to stretch you capacity of signing players with you cap space, while adding incentives for the player peform to the team, or to pay attention to particular aspect of the game. In this example, we don't know how exactly are Favors' incentives, but it's been he reported one of the unlikely incentives is to make a first all defense team, and others players like Dante Exum and Rudy Gobert in their team have the same incentive, what gives the FO some kind of control on their players perfomances and priorities.
Pretty smart? You can sign a player with 15% of the salary in unlikely incentives, and they won't count against the cap. Though the NBA can veto your unlikely incentive if they considered it likely, like saying the Lakers making the postseason in 2020 is probably a incentive that the league wouldn't accept as unlikely even though they didn't in 2019, but putting a certain number of games to win (like 45), number of minutes played or getting to the playoffs semi-finals could a kind of "likely" unlikely incentive the Lakers could give a player.
Well I have talked about plenty of the FA in 2019 available, but KCP, Tyreke Evans, Jeremy Lin, Reggie Bullock, Nerlens Noel, JaMychal Green, Justin Holiday and even 1 upside guy in a kind of 2nd draft (a guy that was drafted but seems a bust) like Stanley Johnson.
 
 
 
DISCLAIMER here: I know some of them are unlikely. That's why I've made a lot of different ways to go, so if one unlikely way is out of the world of possibility you'd still have others
 
Possible (that aren't a dream) positive outcomes of every course of action:

Course No.1: Sign a max guy + minimum + Room - MLE

Guard Wings text
Lonzo Ball LeBron James Richaun Holmes
Kyrie Irving Brandon Ingram Kyle O'Quinn
Isaac Bonga Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner
Wayne Ellington Josh Hart Bruno Fernando
Seth Curry Demarre Carroll
DeAndre Hunter
 
Max guy: Kyrie Irving Room MLE: Wayne Ellington
1st rounder: DeAndre Hunter 2nd rounder: Bruno Fernando

Course No.2: Signing mid-tier players

Guard Wings Bigs
Lonzo Ball LeBron James Dewayne Dedmon
Pat Beverley Bojan Bogdanovic Nerlens Noel
Isaac Bonga Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner
Seth Curry Josh Hart Bruno Fernando
Brandon Ingram
Al-Farouq Aminu
DeAndre Hunter
The guy: Bojan Bogdanovic for 17 million a year. Room MLE:Nerlens Noel or Ed Davis
1st rounder: DeAndre Hunter 2nd rounder: Bruno Fernando
Heavy use of unlikely incentives in order to maximize cap space:
Player 2019-20 money +Unlikely inc.
Bojan Bogdanovic $16,000,000 - 3yrs $2,400,000
Aminu $9,000,000 -3 yrs $1,350,000
Dedmon $6,500,000 -2 yrs $1,050,000
Pat Beverley $7,260,000 - 3 yrs $1,089,000

Course No.3: Getting LeBron 2 stars.

Guard Wings Bigs
Jrue Holiday LeBron James Robin Lopez*
Ian Clark* Jimmy Butler Richaun Holmes*
Frank Jackson Kyle Kuzma Bruno Fernando
Wayne Ellington James Ennis*
Ray Felton* Vince Carter*
Demarre Carroll*
DeAndre Hunter
The trade would be Ingram + Ball + Hart + Mo + Bonga for Jrue Holiday + Frank Jackson.
Max guy: Jimmy Butler Room MLE: Wayne Ellington * = minimum
1st rounder: DeAndre Hunter 2nd rounder: Bruno Fernando
 

Course No.4: Keeping the 2020 cap space

Guard Wings Bigs
Lonzo Ball LeBron James Nerlens Noel
KCP Jeremy Lamb Kevon Looney*
Isaac Bonga Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner
Seth Curry Josh Hart Bruno Fernando
Brandon Ingram
Tyreke Evans
DeAndre Hunter
1+1 late guarantee deals: Nerlens Noel, Tyreke Evans, Jeremy Lamb, KCP, Seth Curry (Room MLE)
1st rounder: DeAndre Hunter 2nd rounder: Bruno Fernando
Player 2019-20 money +Unlikely inc.
Jeremy Lamb $16,000,000 $2,400,000
Nerlens Noel $8,000,000 $1,200,000
Tyreke Evans $7,500,000 -2 yrs $1,125,000
KCP $7,260,000 - 3 yrs $1,089,000
TL,DR: The lakers are still on a good situation to be successful, if they make the right moves.
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2019.03.12 18:50 nadoperon Projecting the 2019 Lakers Free Agency.

Lakers Cap Situation

60,810,795 in active roster spots (players salary)
4,463,400 1st rounder = 65,274,195
3,560,648 in 4 rosters cap holds = 68,834,843
5,000,000 dead cap hold for Luol Deng = 73,834,843
 
Cap space: 35,165,157 => 32,700,000 is 30% maximum.+ 2,465,157 million dollars in additional cap space*
 
*:Which will probably be less than the 10+ veteran minimum ($2,393,887 this year).
 
Interesting fact: They would have about *34,1 million dollars** with Zubac's cap hold.*
 
To Clear more cap space: Lakers could clear trading players into cap space:
 
Player X (his salary - empty roster cap hold)
Mo Wagner: $1,173,358 -> 36,35 million
Isaac Bonga: $526,660 -> 35,69 million
2019 1st rounder (9th pick): $3,573,238 -> 37,738 million
(that's an interesting idea imo, possibly trading a 2019 1st rounder for a similar value 2020 1st rounder to a team like the Pistons, would get you a slightly worse pick but in a best draft while also clearing cap space)
 
Clearing all 3 of them: 39,438 million dollars in reasonable achievable cap space.
Considering the 3 cap sheet cleaning moves: With 19.9 million dollars in Hart, Kuzma, Ingram, Ball + 6,7 in cap space after a max sing, the Lakers could theoretically sign and trade a 26.6 million dollars player.
 

COURSE OF ACTIONS

  1. Sign a Max Player and filling the rest of the roster with minimum and the room MLE (projected $4,760,000).
  2. Sign multiple good NBA players on long term deals, looking for assets that you could turn later into another star.
  3. Clearing house and going for 1 max player + a 26.6 million dollar sign and trade player (maybe a max player willing to take less to play for the Lakers). This option could be also instead of sign-and-trade, actually trading for a player, like Bradley Beal.
  4. If 1 fails, keeping max space for 2020*, the 2018 FA plan, signing 1 years, but with an improved strategy that I will discuss in this topic.
*(what I don't project that could actually happen unless the Lakers traded Ingram or let him go)

COURSE No 1:

The Max Players available
ESPN Ranking Player
8 Kawhi Leonard
14 Jimmy Butler
19 Klay Thompson
20 Kyrie Irving
27 Kemba Walker
35 Khris Middleton
60 Tobias Harris
69 DeMarcus Cousins
-- Nikola Vucevic
That's an obvious one, this is the beggining of the year ESPN ranking of players for 2018-19 season.
Class A
The first 4 guys are guys that you would just sign if you have the max players, because these are true max guys, whose value to a team is bigger than the 30% contract they can get. They're great championship deals.
Kemba did have a 59.8 million dollars season in 2017-18 accourding to CARMELO proj., but he'll be 29 in the 2019 FA and being a small guard, his play could deteriotate badly through the contract
Lakers priorities should be:
  1. Kawhi Leonard
  2. Kyrie Irving
  3. Klay Thompson
  4. Jimmy Butler
Reasoning: Kawhi is a top 5 nba players that would fit perfectly with LeBron, giving him a rest from defending the opposite team's best wing, what only Butler also will give you. Kyrie Irving gives you the elite individual playmaking that LeBron values, that could be guard next to Ball (who's big enough to guard 2s) and would be a good fit in the Lakers.
Klay would also be a great fit, and imo would give you about the same impact as Kyrie (although Kyrie is a better player), only that Kyrie's younger and has more trade value around the league. Jimmy Butler doesn't fit well with the lack of shooting in the Lakers, and his skills overlap a bit with LeBron.
 
Class B
Kemba, Middleton, Harris, Cousins and Vucevic are the plan B, that's 4 players that I could see getting the max, but that I would seriously start looking the Course of action no.2, these player are/may be worth the max, but not much more than that, so you're not really getting a great deal here, because of the lack of upside (overvalue) in their contract. If they do go for the class B players:
Lakers priorities should be:
  1. Kemba Walker
  2. Khris Middleton
  3. Tobias Harris
  4. Nikola Vucevic
  5. DeMarcus Cousins
Kemba gives you class A production, although his role would reduce from the Hornet's one, in similar way to Kyrie.
Middleton is 1 year older than Harris but Middleton gives you significantly better wing defense.
Than it comes the Centers. Lakers defense has taken a dip recently and it shows how fragile it could be if they don't add good defensive players, and the Center position is the most impactful one while also being the easier to get production with small money. Both Vucevic and Cousins give you quality offense, but are lacking at D, in a way that I'd rather add a comparable offense at the Wing or Guard position while adding a good defensive center (Like Nerlens Noel on Thunder) for cheap while guard defense isn't that impactful and wing defense comes at a premium value.
 

Filling the Roster with minimum and the MLE

If the Lakers signed a max player they would have 2.4 million dollars in cap space, which really can't get you anything, they could and should use it to pay their 2019 2nd rounder a long 4 year contract, and filling the roster with minimum players and 1 room MLE.
I ranked some of the players that I think would fit well what the Lakers want to do alongside the chance of them getting only the minimum this off-season.
% of min. Players
50-90% David Nwaba, Rodney McGruder, Corey Brewer, Vince Carter , Dante Cunningham, Ray Felton, Ian Clark, James Ennis, Deng, Howard, Sefolosha, Looney, Ish
20-50% Richaun Holmes, Marjanovic, Jared Dudley, Anthony Tolliver, Seth Curry, Luc Moute, Justin Holiday, Alec Burks, Wilson Chandler, KOQ, Garrett Temple, JaMychal Green, Robin Lopez, Demarre Carroll
10-20% Iman Shumpert, Mike Scott, Austin Rivers
<5% Reggie Bullock, Tyreke Evans, KCP
We can't know what ´players will be: 2019 1st rounder and 2nd and the Max guy that they signed, so I'd do the best to figure out how to improve the team that they would have without them, with these players being the extra, although it's the ideal way to think here.
The Lakers would already have here:
Guards Wings Bigs Others
Lonzo Ball Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner 2019 1st
Isaac Bonga Brandon Ingram 2019 2nd
Josh Hart 1 max guy
LeBron James
So they already have 10 players and need 4 minimum players + 1 room-MLE guy. I would ideally focus on: backup 3PT shooting guards, Defensive wings, 3 PT wings specialists wing and 2 centers. Of the 5 players, the Centers are the easier to get for the minimum, followed by the 3PT shooting guards, and the Defensive wing and the 3 Point specialist I would try to get 1 for the minimum and 1 for the room-MLE. Though the need for a center it's a very immediate one, and if they could get Noel for the Room-MLE I'd probably do it.
Ideally it would look like:
Guards Wings Bigs Others
Lonzo Ball Kyle Kuzma Mo Wagner 2019 1st
3PT guard Brandon Ingram Athletic Big 2019 2nd
Isaac Bonga Josh Hart Big 1 max guy
LeBron James
Wing defender
Wing 3PT specialist
 
Candidates for each role:
3PT guard: Ian Clark, Raymond Felton, Austin Rivers, Seth Curry
Athletic Big: Howard, Holmes,KOQ, JaMychal Green, Kevon Looney
Others Big: Marjanovic, RoLo
Wing defender: David Nwaba, Corey Brewer, Demarre Carroll, Vince Carter, James Ennis, Deng, Sefolosha, Shumpert
3PT specialist: Mike Scott (PF), Reggie Bullock
As you can see, according to my analysis, the harder position to get for the minimum would be the 3 PT specialist, as it's highly unlikely that theses players would be available for the minimum. So I'd probably try to go for the 3PT specialist in the Room-MLE for a guy like Wayne Ellington, Reggie Bullock or KCP (though his 3 PT percentage isn't great).
A positive outcome here could getting: 2 fo Holmes, Kyle O'Quin and RoLo, Seth Curry and James Ennis/Demarre Carroll.
 
The MLE
So now you already have your minimum players, and it's time talk about players that could be available for the Room MLE for the LA Lakers, so here comes other list:
% of Room-MLE Players
50-90% Howard, IT, Luc Moute, TJ McConnell, R Lopez, Rondo, Payton, Austin R, W. Chandler, Seth Curry, KOQ, Marjanovic, Holiday, Lance, Mike Scott, Burks, Gortat, Reggie Bullock
10-50% MKG, Payton, Temple, Shumpert, Ed Davis, Kanter, Stanley J, Wayne Ellington,
<10% Dedmon, CoJo, Layman, RHJ, Noel
We've already talked about 3 PT specialist being the harder ones to get in this group, so I'd probably go for one of Wayne Ellington or Reggie Bullock, with that being a positive outcome.
 
 

Course no.2: Signing mid-sized FAs

So they've striked out on max FAs or decided to not pursue Class B max FAs. Who can they get?
The plan here is to get true value and upside with a mix of looking for underpaid players along these players fitting well with LeBron. We all know the kind of player that LeBron makes certains kinds of players signifcantly better: the 3 and D wings and guards, along athletic bigs, good O Reb. bigs that take advatange of LeBron's gravity at the lane.
The candidates:
Tiers Players
Tier 1 Mirotic, D'Angelo Russell,
Tier 2.1 Jeremy Lamb, Brogdon, Aminu, Favors, Ariza, Danny Green, Thaddeus Young, Rudy Gay, Bojan Bogdanovic
Tier 2.2 Julius Randle, Brook Lopez, JJ Redick, Rose, Rubio, DAJ, Rozier, Collinson, Tyreke Evans, Pat. Beverley, Taj Gibson, Marcus Morris
Tier 2.3 Bobby Portis, KCP, Oubre Jr., Wes Matthews, Terrence Ross, Tomas Satoransky, Rodney Hood, Tyus Jones, Noah Vonleh, Jeremy Lin
Tier 3.1 Luc Mbah'a Moute, Robin Lopez, Noel, Rondo, Payton, Garrett Temple, Jarabi Parker, Wilson Chandler, Ed Davis, Cory Joseph, Mike Scott, RHJ, Shumpert, DeMarre Carroll, Anthony Tolliver, Dewayne Dedmon, Zubac
Tier 3.2 Austin Rivers, Looney, IT, Dwight Howard, TJ McConnell, Seth Curry, JaMychal Green, Justin Holiday, Marjanovic, Lance, Jake Layman, KOQ, Stanley Johnson, Burks, Gortat, Kanter, Zaza Pachulia, Noah, Faried
This is a list that focus on the FA appeal of each player, in a way that I could put it this way:
Tier Money next contract
Tier 1 17-25 million
Tier 2 9-17 million
Tier 3.1 room MLE - full MLE
Tier 3.2 min-room or tax MLE
So I've already highlighted players that I'd like on the Lakers + could be available, so I've rearrenged the FAs accourding to how much would I like the Lakers to sign them. Lakers favorites table:
Tier Players
Tier 1 Nikola Mirotic, Danny Green, Bojan Bogdanovic
Tier 2 Ariza, Lamb, Aminu, B. Lopez, Wes Matthews, JJ Redick, Nerlens Noel, Dewayne Dedmon
Tier 3.1 RoLo, Tomas Sato, Noah Vonleh, Jeremy Lin, Luc Moute, Garrett Temple, Ed Davis, Mike Scott, DeMarre Carroll, Kevon Looney, Justin Holiday, Tolliver
Tier 3.2 KOQ, Noah
Danny Green, Dewayne Dedmon seem like perfect Lakers fits, while Wes Matthews and Brook Lopez (age and mobility) seem like slight less perfect, but still great fits.
Although what I believe the right strategy isn't to pick the "perfect" players, but look for the underrated and underpaid players, just like in 2018 FA had Brook Lopez, Mike Scott, Treveon Graham, Ed Davis and others that went for cheap.
With 35.17 million dollars in cap space, picking at least 1 good deal of each Lakes favorite table tiers (or 2 from tier 2 if you can't get a tier 1), to give you a example:
Player Money
Danny Green 12.5 million per 3 years
Wes Matthews 10 million per 3 years
Dewayne Dedmon 7 million per 2 years
Justin Holiday 4.5 million per 2 years
KOQ/Noah/Looney whichever acc. min
That would also sum to 34 million dollars, while reducing the 3.56 million in empty rosters cap hold, giving you a 30.45 million dollars cap impact, which would be enough for the lakers to keep Reggie Bullocks 4.6 mi cap hold.
You would also have an space to add a room-MLE player, that I've already talked about the options on Course No. 1.
That would a good Course no. 2 FA, with under the market values (underpays) that I'd like to pick up.
But what if that's a way to maximize you cap space even more?

The 2017 FA Miami Heat Case

The Miami heat had the Tyler Johnson salary bumb on 2018 and they knew they wouldn't have any cap space in 2018 and 2019, so they had to maximize cap space while signing Olynyk, James Johnson and Dion Waiters.
Kelly Olynyk and Dion Waiters contracts are the one that I want to laser on here.
Olynyk signed a 4 year 44.4 million dollars ascending contract, while the Heat made it atractive to him by offering him a reasonable ** trade kicker** (lesser of 5% bonus or $2million dollars on rest of the contract) and unlikely incentives that are a mechanismo that won't cost agaisnt the cap.
A incentive is "unlikly" if the player didn't achieve in the season before he signed contract. So you can make a likely "unlikely" if you have the right kind of approach, examplifying: Kelly Olynyk had 1586 minutes on 2016-17 season, he would have a bigger role in the Heat so they gave him a 1700 minutes bonus that was actually worth 1 million dollars per year on 4 years of the total 1.4 unlikely bonuses he could get. a unlikely bonus can get to 15% of the original salary, and if rightfully used, can be a extension of your cap space.
Waiters had a 47 million dollars over 4 years contract, that also had 1.1 milion dollars in unlikely bonus that was 70 games, what's unlikely due to the fact he had an injury in 2016-17, also a very smart way to expand your cap space.
The Lakers have 35,2 million dollars in cap space, with 15% unlikely bonuses the Lakers could find a way "expand" their reach to 40.5 million, maybe giving them the ability to sign one extra mid-level money kind of player.
 
 

Course no.3: Getting LeBron 2 stars

So Course 1 has worked. Yet you'd like to add another star to make this Laker team an A+ level of contender, even thought it would probably cost your rotation guys. Why would you like to do that?
It's a 2010 Heat's and 2018 Butler 76ers logic, when they were turned into a really thin rotation in order to have 3 very quality players. With competence and mid-season moves and buyout, you could built a (really artificial one) squad and when you're deep into the playoffs, having the 3 guys will matter.
And how can you do that?
  1. Sign-and-trade along cap clearing or not: Like I've already descriped, if they trade into cap space 2019 1st rounder, Isaac Bonga and Mo Wagner, they could sign and trade Hart, Ingram, Ball and Kuzma and possibly get a 26.6 million dollar player alongside some draft compesation (although probably not a "fair" one) in the next years.
  2. Trade for an star.
So let's explore the possibilities

Plan 1(A)

In this occasion it could be something like a Vucevic or Cousins or Middleton guys that maybe didn't get the max and would like to play in LA for a little less or even (I know it's a stretch) D'Angelo Russell sign and trade, in case the Nets aren't confortable in giving him a 25% Max and they prefer to go another route.
Let's just speculate a Vuc + Kyrie + LeBron team, alongside some guys like Ennis, Kyle O'Quinn, McGruder, maybe Wayne Elligton for the room-MLE and buyout guys.
PS: Remember, here the Lakers don't have space to add 2 star FA, they'd have 2.45 million in cap after signing a max players.

Plan 2(B)

So that's a more interesting one, let's start with how much of money can the Lakers acquire in a trade:
Ingram + Ball + Kuzma + Hart + Mo + Bonga sum up to 23 million dollars in salary, could get you 28.75 million dollars in contract if you were to trade the whole house, but to get premium trade targets (they receive 25+ million) you have to put in at least 20 million dollars in the trade, what isn't achievable in any way unless you put both Ball and Ingram in the deal*
*Or if they made a complicated sign and trade composition, to keep Bullock (has full bird rights for 4,75 mi) after signing a max guy they would've to trade Mo Wagner into someone's cap space and than find a team to take a significant 3 years contract for Reggie Bullock in a sign and trade deal.
 
the players that could possibly be available. DISCLAIMER here: I know some of them are unlikely.
Players Enter FA
Anthony Davis 2020
Mike Conely 2020
Bradley Beal 2021
CJ McCollum 2021
Jrue Holiday 2021 (PO)
Aaron Gordon 2022
So Aaron Gordon is here. He doesn't really fit the Lakers that well, but he's the kind of player that you could think to add, young good nba players like him and Gary Harris Jr. who have teams that may be willing to let him go in order to give more minutes to player that are cheaper and younger and play the same position as them.
 
But let's keep it simple: The 5 wanted: How can they trade for this guys?
  1. Anthony Davis: After Ingram's clot, who has a 40% chance of having another clot in the 10 years and being shut down of his NBA career, Ingram's stock has taken a dip (Accourding to Brian Windhorst on his podcast) according to a number of executive, alongside Kuzma 31% 3P shooting, no Zubac, Hart playing badly and Ball's injury, is probably not going to happen, and if it happens it would be a really Billy King kind of offer or if both Knicks and Celtics just don't offer premium picks/players. My diagnosis: Not happening
  2. CJ McCollum: The problem here is that the Blazer have low incentives to rebuild, and unless they're really into Ingram or Kuzma right now, the Lakers would probably have to work into a 3 team deals, which usually is more costly than directing deal their younger guys.
Trade Sugestion: Maybe sending a Ingram + Ball + Mo (salary filler) for the Magic for Aaron Gordon that's sent for the Blazers alongside Hart + Bonga (salary filler) to get CJ McCollum. Likelihood: 20%
  1. Bradley Beal: Beal would demand a 2017 Jimmy Butler kind of deal or better, considering a lot of people considered that an underpay. He would make perfect sense and fit perfectly, also being very young, what also makes him costly. The Wizards supposedly never tank, but will they trade Beal? Not sure.
Trade Suggestion: LA send: Ingram, Ball, Kuzma, Hart, Mo and Bonga for Beal + Wizards heavily protected future first.
Is it an overpay? Probably but the Lakers can't really match salaries unless they trade everyone, or do this kind of deal:
Trade Suggestion 2: Reggie Bullock (27/3yrs sign and trade) + Ingram + Kuzma + Hart + Bonga for CJ McCollum.
That's more like it, but would they just take Bullock? Probably would have to fing a 3rd team to take him. And Bullock is costing extra if he's doing a sign and trade probably.
Likelihood: 40%
  1. Jrue Holiday: That's a very volatile situation because of the Davis talks, and this could be somewhat unrealistic.
Trade Sugestion Ingram + Ball + Hart + Mo + Bonga for Jrue Holiday + Frank Jackson (traded first into Lakers cap space) is a conveceivable deal for the Pelicans, that I think a desesperate Lakers would give a lot of thinking.
  1. Mike Conley
Age is a major factor to undervalue current play (2011, Moneyball) and Mike Conley still plays great basketball. The problem is he earns 32.5 million dollars what makes it basically impossible for the Lakers to get him unless they traded everyone. Not Happening, but maybe at the trade deadline it could be a great deal. Another one to think about: Kyle Lowry.
 
Conclusion
Even though it seems the obvious option to trade for another star, is hard to the Lakers to match salaries in the offseason even if they find themselves in the right situation, which is also dictated a bit by luck into falling in a DeMarcus Cousins in the Kings trade kind of situation, when someone's owner thinks Ingram is KD 2.0.
PS: If they striked out for max guys they could in theory trade someone's into their cap space, but in my opinion that would be a bad use of Lakers cap space, as they could turn that cap space and players into 125% +100$ more in the mid-season simply flipping players, instead of acquiring him and losing a 27,55 million dollars cap space, you would pay 21.97 million dollars in salary and acquire him in mid-season basically.
 

Course no.4: How to properly use your temporary cap space

You have 2 NBA teams:
  1. The Lakers, that signed in FA (+1 in buyout) 6 1 year players with a low chance of them keeping them in 2019: Rondo, McGee, Chandler, KCP, Lance and Beasley
  2. The Clippers, that signed Mike Scott, Luc Moute, Avery Bradley and had Pat Beverley, Tobias Harris, Marjanovic all in one year contracts.
You can see the problem here really isn't having 1 year guys, but what kind of guys you have, and if you are creative you can trasform you temporary cap space, that you plan to use on a max guy, into upside:
The 1 year upside contracts
So here there are 4 contracts that I'd like to analyze:
PLayer Money 2nd year guar. guar. date
Derrick Favors 33.8 mi over 2 years non-guar 7/5
Avery Bradley 24.96 mi over 2 years 2 million 7/3
Treveon Graham 3.16 mi over 2 years non-guar. 7/10
Shabazz Napier 3.79 mi over 2 years non-guar. ?
Dante Exum 28.8 mi over 3 years 3yr non-guar. ?
The Jazz also did that in 2017 FA, with Jerebko and Udoh non-guar. 2nd year, with the 7/9 deadline.
What's the advage of it? You actually get upside even with 1 year contracts, with the 2nd year being non-guar., in a way that you could trade him for more value or just keep in if you do strike out (what you can do due to the late guarantee dates).
That's the kind of deal I thought could be advantageous for the Lakers to do with both KCP and Julius Randle, or with other players they payed over the market value to sing them (Rondo, KCP, Beasley, probably Lance)
 
It's also interesting to the use the unlikely incentives structure on Favors contract:
Base Salary Likely Incetives Unlikely Inc.
$16,000,000 $900,000 $1,600,000
$16,000,000 $900,000 $1,600,000
That are unlikely and likely incentives in both years, what's very intersting. Unlikely incentives do not count against the cap, so it's a way to stretch you capacity of signing players with you cap space, while adding incentives for the player peform to the team, or to pay attention to particular aspect of the game. In this example, we don't know how exactly are Favors' incentives, but it's been he reported one of the unlikely incentives is to make a first all defense team, and others players like Dante Exum and Rudy Gobert in their team have the same incentive, what gives the FO some kind of control on their players perfomances and priorities.
Pretty smart? You can sign a player with 15% of the salary in unlikely incentives, and they won't count against the cap. Though the NBA can veto your unlikely incentive if they considered it likely, like saying the Lakers making the postseason in 2020 is probably a incentive that the league wouldn't accept as unlikely even though they didn't in 2019, but putting a certain number of games to win (like 45), number of minutes played or getting to the playoffs semi-finals could a kind of "likely" unlikely incentive the Lakers could give a player.
Well I have talked about plenty of the FA in 2019 available, but KCP, Tyreke Evans, Jeremy Lin, Reggie Bullock, Nerlens Noel, JaMychal Green, Justin Holiday and even 1 upside guy in a kind of 2nd draft (a guy that was drafted but seems a bust) like Stanley Johnson.
 
 
 
DISCLAIMER here: I know some of them are unlikely. That's why I've made a lot of different ways to go, so if one unlikely way is out of the world of possibility you'd still have others
TL,DR: The lakers are still on a good situation to be successful, if they make the right moves.
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2019.03.06 23:51 KCRoyalsBot POST GAME THREAD: The Royals (7-4) lost to the Cubs (7-5) by a score of 4-1 - Wed Mar 06 @ 02:05PM CST

Royals @ Cubs Game Info Links
First Pitch: 02:05 PM CST @ Sloan Park Gameday
Weather: Partly Cloudy, 80 F, Wind 6 mph, Out To RF Strikezone Map
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Radio: Royals: KCSP // Cubs: MLB.com Notes: Royals, Cubs
Royals Pos AB R H RBI BB SO BA/OBP/SLG Cubs Pos AB R H RBI BB SO BA/OBP/SLG
Flores 2B 3 0 0 0 0 0 .231/.375/.462 Almora Jr. CF 3 0 0 0 0 0 .313/.313/.563
Lopez, N 2B 1 0 1 0 0 0 .320/.346/.360 Hannemann CF 1 0 0 0 0 1 .118/.318/.118
Owings SS 3 1 2 0 0 0 .217/.280/.565 Bote 3B 2 0 0 0 1 1 .300/.529/.400
Arteaga SS 1 0 1 0 0 0 .438/.412/.438 Court 3B 1 0 0 0 0 1 .316/.409/.421
Dozier, H 3B 3 0 0 0 0 1 .238/.304/.524 Rizzo 1B 2 1 1 0 0 0 .267/.353/.267
Gutierrez, K 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 .286/.444/.429 Adduci 1B 2 0 1 0 0 0 .150/.190/.150
Soler RF 2 0 0 0 1 1 .250/.333/.500 Báez, J SS 3 0 1 0 0 0 .200/.250/.267
Mejia, E RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .400/.474/.733 Adames SS 1 1 1 0 0 0 .500/.500/.750
Schwindel 1B 1 0 0 0 1 0 .412/.524/.647 Caratini C 2 1 1 1 1 0 .333/.375/.600
O'Hearn 1B 2 0 1 0 0 1 .250/.400/.313 Arcia, F C 0 0 0 0 1 0 .111/.333/.111
Starling DH 4 0 1 1 0 1 .471/.591/.941 Descalso 2B 2 1 1 1 0 0 .143/.250/.214
Bonifacio, J LF 2 0 0 0 0 1 .211/.318/.316 Short, Z 2B 1 0 1 1 0 0 .231/.375/.231
Hernandez, E LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .125/.364/.375 Field LF 3 0 1 1 0 1 .208/.321/.333
Viloria C 2 0 1 0 0 0 .417/.500/.667 Giambrone LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .389/.421/.833
Rivero C 1 0 0 0 0 1 .286/.444/.429 Marzilli RF 3 0 0 0 0 3 .125/.176/.188
Hamilton CF 2 0 0 0 0 0 .222/.300/.333 Burks RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .278/.278/.389
Phillips CF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .154/.400/.154 Rice DH 2 0 0 0 1 2 .000/.333/.000
Hoerner DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000/.000/.000
Royals Cubs
2B: Owings (2, Brach). TB: O'Hearn; Owings 3; Viloria; Arteaga; Lopez, N; Starling. RBI: Starling (6). 2-out RBI: Starling. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Bonifacio, J; O'Hearn. GIDP: Gutierrez, K; Hamilton; Starling. Team RISP: 1-for-8. Team LOB: 5. 2B: Descalso (1, Fillmyer); Adames (2, Storen). HR: Caratini (1, 6th inning off Greene, 0 on, 0 out). TB: Báez, J; Caratini 4; Descalso 2; Rizzo; Adames 2; Adduci; Field; Short, Z. RBI: Caratini (3); Descalso (3); Field (3); Short, Z (2). 2-out RBI: Field. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Rice 2; Marzilli; Burks. GIDP: Caratini. Team RISP: 2-for-8. Team LOB: 7.
Royals IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA Cubs IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Fillmyer 2.0 2 1 1 0 1 10-10 4.50 Quintana 3.0 1 0 0 1 2 18-14 0.00
Ynoa, M 2.0 2 1 1 2 4 25-15 1.50 Strop 0.2 1 1 1 1 1 10-5 13.50
Staumont 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 6-6 1.69 Zagurski 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 5-4 2.45
Greene 2.0 1 1 1 1 3 16-12 10.80 Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 3-3 0.00
Storen 1.0 2 1 1 1 0 9-5 4.50 Brach 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 6-6 0.00
Chatwood 3.0 3 0 0 0 1 12-12 2.25
Linescore 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
Royals 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 1 5
Cubs 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 4 8 1 7
Inning Scoring Play Description Score
Bottom 2 Johnny Field singles on a line drive to center fielder Billy Hamilton. Daniel Descalso scores. Johnny Field to 2nd. 1-0 CHC
Top 4 Bubba Starling singles on a line drive to left fielder Johnny Field. Chris Owings scores. Frank Schwindel to 2nd. 1-1
Bottom 4 Daniel Descalso hit by pitch. Anthony Rizzo scores. Javier Baez to 3rd. Victor Caratini to 2nd. 2-1 CHC
Bottom 6 Victor Caratini homers (1) on a fly ball to left field. 3-1 CHC
Bottom 8 Zack Short singles on a line drive to center fielder Brett Phillips. Cristhian Adames scores. Francisco Arcia to 2nd. 4-1 CHC

Final: 4-1 Cubs

Decisions
KC Ynoa, M (L, 1-1)
CHC Zagurski (W, 2-0)(BS, 1), Chatwood (S, 1)
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2019.03.06 19:05 ChiCubsbot GDT: 3/6 Royals (7-4) @ Cubs (7-5) 2:05 PM

Royals (7-4) @ Cubs (7-5)

First Pitch: 2:05 PM at Sloan Park
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
KC 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 1
CHC 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 4 8 1

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO BA
CF Almora Jr. 3 0 0 0 0 0 .313
CF Hannemann 1 0 0 0 0 1 .118
3B Bote 2 0 0 0 1 1 .300
3B Court 1 0 0 0 0 1 .316
1B Rizzo 2 1 1 0 0 0 .267
1B Adduci 2 0 1 0 0 0 .150
SS Báez, J 3 0 1 0 0 0 .200
SS Adames 1 1 1 0 0 0 .500
C Caratini 2 1 1 1 1 0 .333
C Arcia, F 0 0 0 0 1 0 .111
2B Descalso 2 1 1 1 0 0 .143
2B Short, Z 1 0 1 1 0 0 .231
LF Field 3 0 1 1 0 1 .208
LF Giambrone 1 0 0 0 0 0 .389
RF Marzilli 3 0 0 0 0 3 .125
RF Burks 1 0 0 0 0 0 .278
DH Rice 2 0 0 0 1 2 .000
DH Hoerner 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Quintana 3.0 1 0 0 1 2 18-14 0.00
Strop 0.2 1 1 1 1 1 10-5 13.50
Zagurski 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 5-4 2.45
Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 3-3 0.00
Brach 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 6-6 0.00
Chatwood 3.0 3 0 0 0 1 12-12 2.25
KC AB R H RBI BB SO BA
2B Flores 3 0 0 0 0 0 .231
2B Lopez, N 1 0 1 0 0 0 .320
SS Owings 3 1 2 0 0 0 .217
SS Arteaga 1 0 1 0 0 0 .438
3B Dozier, H 3 0 0 0 0 1 .238
3B Gutierrez, K 1 0 0 0 0 0 .286
RF Soler 2 0 0 0 1 1 .250
RF Mejia, E 1 0 0 0 0 0 .400
1B Schwindel 1 0 0 0 1 0 .412
1B O'Hearn 2 0 1 0 0 1 .250
DH Starling 4 0 1 1 0 1 .471
LF Bonifacio, J 2 0 0 0 0 1 .211
LF Hernandez, E 1 0 0 0 0 0 .125
C Viloria 2 0 1 0 0 0 .417
C Rivero 1 0 0 0 0 1 .286
CF Hamilton 2 0 0 0 0 0 .222
CF Phillips 1 0 0 0 0 0 .154
KC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Fillmyer 2.0 2 1 1 0 1 10-10 4.50
Ynoa, M 2.0 2 1 1 2 4 25-15 1.50
Staumont 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 6-6 1.69
Greene 2.0 1 1 1 1 3 16-12 10.80
Storen 1.0 2 1 1 1 0 9-5 4.50

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
B2 Johnny Field singles on a line drive to center fielder Billy Hamilton. Daniel Descalso scores. Johnny Field to 2nd. 1-0
T4 Bubba Starling singles on a line drive to left fielder Johnny Field. Chris Owings scores. Frank Schwindel to 2nd. 1-1
B4 Daniel Descalso hit by pitch. Anthony Rizzo scores. Javier Baez to 3rd. Victor Caratini to 2nd. 2-1
B6 Victor Caratini homers (1) on a fly ball to left field. 3-1
B8 Zack Short singles on a line drive to center fielder Brett Phillips. Cristhian Adames scores. Francisco Arcia to 2nd. 4-1

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Zagurski (2-0, 2.45) Ynoa, M (1-1, 1.50) Chatwood (1, 2.25)
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