Bbc infanticide

This is called female infanticide; this is the intentional killing of female babies. Female infanticide is an underlying consequence of global gender inequality that permeates cultural, political, and economic institutions creating inequitable opportunities for girls and women and the devaluation of girls lives (BBC). BBC Radio 4's Law in Action was broadcast on Friday, 22 July 2005 at 1600 BST. Yesterday, the Home Office announced the first fundamental review of our Murder Law for more than fifty years. The review itself is expected to take up to two years, and one of the things it will cover is the law on infanticide. With the grim discovery this week by French police of eight newborn babies allegedly smothered to death by their mother, the BBC's Zoe Murphy asks what could lead a woman to kill her child in the ... A list of BBC audio related to 'Infanticide'. Tim Montgomerie reflects on the largely forgotten Collect for Holy Innocents day. BBC - Ethics - Abortion: Female infanticide. Female infanticide What is infanticide? Infanticide is the unlawful killing of very young children. It is found in both indigenous and sophisticated cultures around the world. Female infanticide is a side effect of low social status of women in India. Indian parents know that their sons can achieve what their daughters never will. If the Western countries focus on correcting the discrimination against women, then female infanticide will naturally disappear. Republicans claim Democrats in Virginia tried to legalise 'post-birth' abortion and 'infanticide'. Infanticide is the unlawful killing of very young children. It is found in both indigenous and sophisticated cultures around the world. Female infanticide is the deliberate killing of girl babies ... The Nazi breeding and infanticide program you probably never knew about. Forced procreation, kidnapping, and execution of babies were all carried out in the name of a master race. Timeline. Follow. The pair found examples in studies of lemurs, seals and sea lions, bears, cats, bats, mice and squirrels, among others. Infanticide was clearly not confined to any one group or habitat – but there were important links between many of the cases. Three crucial factors that influenced how likely a female was to commit infanticide were:

Why believe in God? Why are you Christian?

2020.09.30 18:47 JustToLurkArt Why believe in God? Why are you Christian?

We’re regularly asked by users here why we believe in God or why we’re Christian. I’m storing my notes here to copy/paste whenever I’m on my mobile. You’re very welcome to comment, add or copy. Peace.
Why believe in God or be Christian?
1. Religiosity (transcendental notions, duality and metaphysical concepts) is a common factor of human nature across cultures and societies.
Religiosity is integrated in our cognitive processes. People don’t adhere to transcendental concepts because they suspend ordinary cognitive resources – rather they adhere to them because they use natural cognitive resources. These are experiences that seem to be an inescapable part of human existence. Do humans have a ‘religion instinct’? Because of this we can expect religious notions to be stable and salient in human cultures, not just now, but for a long time to come. Why is Religion Natural?
I'm convinced this is the "thumbprint" of being created by God.
2. I’m convinced evil exists and that we know it when we see it. The words “good” and “evil” aren’t in nature’s vocabulary. Nature is metal; not moral.
Skeptic: "but humans have empathy and ...".
Reply: The reality is, in a solely natural mechanism, empathy is just a subjective social construct built through subjective social interaction and will differ with each society and culture. As such the emotional, motivational, and cognitive facets of empathy have a different relationship with morality, and are swayed by both social context (hierarchies) and interpersonal relationships. Empathy is not in our genes.
If life is solely the product of natural occurrences, then humans are no different from animals. To biologists, humans = animals. Period. You could perhaps support that our brains are bigger, and as a result we have a relatively more powerful biological computer than other animals – but you cannot say our biological computer is different. At best you can perhaps say humans are social and that cooperative animals have a sense of fairness. Even so the human sense of fairness is a social construct too;
Skeptic: but humans are intelligent and highly social.
Reply: We are and many other species are intelligent, highly social and like humans innately violent:
Chimpanzees are killers – just like us. They regularly kill other chimps for territory and natural resources with entire tribes going at it. Female chimps even practice infanticide and cannibalism.
Dolphins are highly social and among the smartest creatures on Earth. They share many characteristics with humans; they're the only other animal that will kill for fun.
Bison are highly social and here an adult bison knocks over calf for wolves
Lions are highly social and here’s a dominate male lion systematically murdering cubs
Even certain ants, which are highly social, enslave other ant colonies and are highly successful. It's no more cruel than consuming other organisms as food, competing with another organism for resources, or the myriad other ways that organisms come into conflict in the natural world. It's just natural.
Meerkats are highly social and alpha females will murder a low-level female’s pups to enslave them to be wet nurses to their pups. Alpha males and females operate as “mobs” or “gangs” to subordinate other members. The evolutionary advantage of murder reduces competition for care and allows low-level females to serve the group. It’s simply animal behavior – not “bad” behavior. Baby-Murdering Meerkats
3. The Bible: I find the Bible narrative compelling. I’m confident the Gospels reach back to the ministry of Jesus, and that when I read them, I’m hearing his teaching and his voice. I find Paul, the author of much of the New Testament, to be a credible witness. Scholars know who he was, when he was and where he was; we know he knew the right people to put him in a credible position to be right. Doesn’t equate to “truth”; does equate to credibility. Paul’s provenance, in relationship to history, is unprecedented.
New Testament accuracy, in context of textual criticism, is 99.5% accurate.
The Reliability of the New Testament
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2020.09.23 14:34 Venus230 Justice Ginsburg, Eugenics And The Democrats 'Big Lie'

With 'political violence' from 'the left' highly likely to leave bloodshed in America over the coming six weeks leading up to the election and the probability that things will then be kicked up a few notches if President Trump wins, as Susan Duclos had warned in this September 21st story on ANP, Democrats are now biting off a bit more than they can chew with media personalities, Democrat politicians and Hollywood names calling for violence against President Trump supporters.
As J.D. Heyes had warned in this new story over at Natural News, leftists exploded following Ginsburg’s death, threatening to “burn down” the country and leave bodies in the streets if President Trump and the GOP tried to replace her prior to the election.
And with parts of America already on fire long before RBG's death, the fact that Attorney General William Barr's DOJ actually had to declare 3 US cities 'anarchist zones', meaning they could lose millions/billions of dollars in federal funding, confirms what we've long been reporting but the mainstream media has largely been avoiding: Democrats have allowed their cities to turn into boiling cauldrons of hatred and anger to push home a political point and stir up their 'mob' for revolution.
And while the Natural News story points out that 'big tech' is pushing this 'revolution' along, none of us should be at all surprised by what Democrats are doing to America, especially with many globalists/democrats long holding, if not openly talking about, their 'depopulation agenda'. From Natural News before we continue.:
Proving once again why the Democratic Party, home to the American Left, should never, ever be given the reins of power again because their Stalinists and Leninists, “blue checks” on Twitter threatened to burn up the country and leave bodies in the streets “literally” if President Trump and the Republican Senate name a successor to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg following her Friday death from pancreatic cancer.
“If they even TRY to replace RBG we burn the entire f\*king thing down,” Reza Aslan, an Iranian-American and former CNN contributor who claims to be a ‘religious scholar’ tweeted.*
He would later tweet in response to a statement from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who vowed to give any nominee made by Trump a vote, “Over our dead bodies. Literally.”
As Heyes continued to warn in his story, while many dismiss these leftist threats of 'burning down the country' and 'shutting the country down' as 'leftists babbling in anger and despair' following the death of their 'infanticide hero', if we were to look at all of what's happened over the past 4 years as 'a play', this 'latest buildup' would be seen as the 'acts and scenes of conflict and complication' prior to what would become a shocking and climactic conclusion.
And if we look at everything now happening through the eyes of history, we'll see that once again, the far left politicians (and media) are using their 'useful idiots' to try to accomplish political goals, and if they have to burn down America to do so, 'so be it' in their eyes. Once again, from Natural News.
Now, granted, for the most part, it would be easy to wave off the threats made by these lunatic threats as hyperbole — were it not for the fact that our country has just endured months of rioting, looting and statue-toppling violence, ostensibly in the name of a career criminal in Minneapolis who may have died a wrongful death but who certainly does not deserve sainthood.
And we might be able to dismiss them if we weren’t already aware of a sinister plot by the Stalinist Democrat Left to try and steal the election in November with waves of fake mail-in ballots and endless lawsuits — many of which would ultimately wind up before the Supreme Court, making that the No. 1 reason why the president and the Senate GOP have to put a successor on the high court.
So the threats have to be taken seriously, even if the whiny, butt-hurt leftist Twitter warriors are making them from the safety of their homes and basements aren’t actually going to be the ‘heroes’ lining the streets readying for battle.
Because as we’ve seen all summer long, there are hidden forces behind the current violent protests — organizing them, funding them and, reportedly, transporting them.
With a humiliating election crushing possibly only weeks away, a thrashing that we hope will send this particular group of anti-freedom, anti-America Democrats packing for good. as Susan Duclos had warned in this September 19th ANP story, such a defeat would completely unleash the mayhem from Democrats we've already been witnessing building up over the past 4 years, and particularly this summer. Yet as we'll explore in the final section of this story below, if Democrats were only paying attention to just WHO they're 'rioting for', they'd see the bigger picture most are missing.
All the way back on July 7th of 2009, the NY Times published this story titled "The Place Of Women On The Court" within which they interviewed Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and to say in 2020 that some of her answers would be 'shocking' to those paying close attention to her words would be an understatement.
While we linked above to that Times story to prove that it is indeed on their website, it's also been saved here over at Archive.com for history and as this story over at The Stream points out, within that 2009 interview, RBG does nothing less than endorse eugenics for 'certain populations' in America.
We'll go ahead and publish this excerpt from the NY Times story for you to read and let sink in before we continue.:
NY Times: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?
JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong."
And while several years later, Ginsburg attempted to 'clear up' her stance and the alleged confusion surrounding her views on abortion and 'population control', while many claim her statement proved that she and her peers upon the US Supreme Court wanted legalized abortion to reduce the number of poor and minority people, as The Stream story pointed out, it was actually much worse than that:
The critics’ reading — Ginsburg admits it! Liberals want to get rid of poor people! — was unfair. It wasn’t the most honest of readings. And there’s a cost to dishonesty. You miss the thing you must see.
You don’t see how clever and how radical Ginsburg’s promotion of abortion rights really was. Ginsburg wanted to drive legal abortion into the Constitution. She wanted to make it a right equal to the First Amendment rights, even though the text never mentions it.
Indeed, she even wanted to make it a superior right, in that the government should fund it, because the government has to make sure everyone can enjoy it. The government can’t fund newspapers just because the Constitution guarantees freedom of the press. But it should fund abortions because without them women can’t be completely equal to men.
She explained this to the Senate in her confirmation testimony, back in 1993. Any law against abortion “controls women and denies them full autonomy and full equality with men.” Pregnancy puts women at a disadvantage compared with men. “It is essential to woman’s equality with man that she be the decisionmaker, that her choice be controlling. If you impose restraints that impede her choice, you are disadvantaging her because of her sex.”
A Simple Argument
Ginsburg didn’t like basing abortion in the woman’s right to privacy, as the Roe court did. That leaves open the possibility of balancing her right to privacy with her unborn child’s right to live. She wasn’t proposing abortion as a tragic necessity, a way out for women who just can’t have a child. She didn’t talk about abortion being “safe, legal, and rare,” as the Clintons once did. Those arguments also allow for restrictions.
None of that halfway stuff. She offered a simple argument: The Constitution demands women have complete equality with men; the inability to free themselves of a fetus keeps them from that equality; therefore, the Constitution demands that abortion be completely legal.
She implied, at least, a second argument: The Constitution demands women have complete equality with each other; any inability — being poor, being too far from an abortionist, and so on — keeps them from that equality; therefore, the Constitution demands that the government ensure every women’s ability to procure an abortion, paying for the abortion if necessary.
Simple arguments. Elegant arguments. Clean, neat, without the practical messiness of the halfway arguments. Based on an ideal of equality that nearly everyone agrees with. Recognizing a reality everyone knows. Arguably respectful of the Constitution itself in a way Roe wasn’t. And justifying the killing of tens of millions of human beings.
Justice Ginsburg’s legal project will outlive her. If it succeeds, American law will become completely pro-choice. The unborn child will have no right to live till birth.
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2020.08.12 07:39 roflmao77 Talking points to use against liberandus and bullas (Long post)

I've compiled a few statistics and talking points over a few days that you guys can use whenever talking to these mlechhas.
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45. http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living%20apart%20together%20-%20jan%2007.pdf
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq. http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatle2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops. 68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops. 90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops. 72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops. 52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops. About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil. Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable". http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). https://selectra.co.uk/sites/selectra.co.uk/files/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified https://selectra.co.uk/sites/selectra.co.uk/files/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target". http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi. Original Link: http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/727.php?nid=&id=&pnt=727 (Removed) (Reference in this link)
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say. http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam". http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks. http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-hamas-skyrockets-following-war-poll-shows/
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia. http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6758207/1-in-5-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html (link removed)
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659913/two-in-three-British-Muslims-would-NOT-give-police-terror-tip-offs http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.713917
East West University (Bangladesh) (2016): 1 in 10 Bangladeshi university students support terrorism. Of these, more than half (52%) are from well-off families. http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2016/11/21/study-finds-10-percent-students-in-bangladesh-universities-support-terrorismupport-terrorism" target="_blank"> http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2016/11/21/study-finds-10-percent-students-in-bangladesh-universities-support-terrorism
Policy Exchange (2016): 48% if British Muslims would not report a person "linked to terror." https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2308529/half-british-muslims-would-not-report-is-supporters/
(German) Federal Ministry for Family Affairs (2018) - 8% of Muslim students support the creation of an Islamic State via terrorism. https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/01/german-study-almost-one-in-three-muslim-students-would-fight-and-die-for-islam/ https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article172327527/Kriminalitaetsstudie-Islamistische-Tendenzen-im-Klassenzimmer.html
Policy and Survey Research (2019) - 61% of Palestinians approve of bomb attack on Jewish family that killed teen girl. https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/09/61-of-palestinians-approve-of-jihad-murder-of-israeli-teen
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2020.07.28 01:04 1337k1d Give me your thoughts and opinions

With the recent events that happened and the ensuing surge in the BLM, I have found a varied amount of responses from South Asians, my views have changed a lot and i've inadvertently learned a lot. I see responses from people that flat out ignore the problem or in the same vein actively hold a position where they make it out that the issue is not as deep rooted and important as it is made out to be.
I also see groups where they talk on behalf of all of us, such as "South asians for BLM" and so forth, they put out content advising but in a way that is preaching in a holier than thou way of how to help BLM, how to stop being racist etc, it's abrasive, well meaning but a bit condescending, it's not easy to read but i guess the majority of it is true and i guess i agree with it, the casteism, colourism in our societies is bad and needs to stop, that prism of analysing someone is morally and ethically wrong and even on a religious level one can argue.
I also see people/groups that use this specific language, where they really emphasise the divide between people and say things such as "As a south asian I can NEVER understand your pain/suffering but i'll try to understand", "I can never understand your lived experience..." etc. Now, this is where i have a bit of an issue, I'll start off on a bit of a tangent and try to round of my point/question:
I know this isn't the oppression olympics however, a lot of the colourism, casteism, sexism and other ism's in the Desi communities, I would argue have come from our own oppression, as an Indian, from my perspective, India has had a multitude of invaders, from the moghuls from which started the sati and infanticide practices which inherently made the society value men more than women (I won't go into detail unless if you want me to) and the british which heavily influenced colourism as "white was right". I'm not saying that these views/practices were solely because of foreign influence but they heavily shaped key rites of passage in the lives of many indians, i.e. when a husband died, a widow was expected to take her life too etc.
The reason why i start here is because why are our own people, ignoring our own struggles we've faced and the oppression we've faced to almost appease the current political climate, it makes their work albeit it "right" but seem fake? I hope i'm making sense here and I don't want to try compare to the great slave trade the africans faced but humans have been shit to humans for a long fucking time. I think we can support BLM but also support ourselves in a meaningful way. All the narrative i see from the vocal desi left, news outlets such as BBC is that all these views and cultural aspects are solely from within the Desi community and have had no outside influence on them, to put simply that Desi people are just inherently bigoted in a vast and deeply offensive way. It makes our culture seems completely incompatible with the west and in a way inferior and wrong.
This hurts me a lot as I see so many of our brothers and sisters with a negative stereotype and then to be brushed further with these view points, are we just terrible people? I don't think so, India for example has such a beautiful tradition, from religious stand points, there is so much diversity, culturally too, it's a shame that these negative views have pervaded so deeply and rooted themselves in peoples mindsets but i also see amazing desis working hard to change these completely in the face of difficulty.
And this is a side point but the vocal left also completely victimises the black community, it seems as they are assumed complete innocence, there is racism everywhere, I know and have heard of stories where there is colourism even in the black community itself, Africa is also not a monolith, there has been so much bloodshed and prejudice across nations and races.
I don't want this to come across as a whine or me wanting a victim card for our communities but I want fairness in assessment and I feel like a lot of the press coverage has just been negative, I don't see any good news regarding indians /desis at all (in the west), correct me if i'm wrong, please post articles so i can read if i'm wrong!
Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you all, again I mention India but that's only because i am one, please feel free to talk from any and all perspectives.
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2020.05.29 04:39 ogjapindii Do you think the British media likes to perpetuate stereotypes into the mainstream especially with their former colonies while completely neglect their own problems?

Full disclaimer: I am not talking about news shows, I am specifically talking about hour long documentaries made by British journalists.There are countless documentaries out there made by BBC and others about various societal problems from their former colonies notably in South Asia like India, Pakistan, Banglades, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Burma etc. making extensive documentaries about religious sectarian conflicts, female infanticide, cousin marriage, street shitting etc. and other topics to show how crappy those societies are and look how amazing Britain is while Britain already has plenty of issues at it's hand like Brexit, conflict with Northern Ireland etc. I know it's a sharp contrast between first world and third world, developed vs developing countries and these issues do exist but they don't always make the effort to show the good side of these countries and it is often the independent travel vloggers who do that. The mainstream British media and Western mainstream media likes to make elaborate documentaries about how crappy their former colonies are compared to them.
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2020.04.09 20:02 blue_strat Ignacio Peyró: With everything and with nothing: an approach to British sauces

https://ignaciopeyro.es/con-todo-y-con-nada-sobre-salsas-britanicas-en-esquire
[via Google Translate, and a bit of tidying up]
Thundering against British food has been a passion capable of uniting not only travellers around the islands but even locals themselves: if for George Orwell the best English cuisine was “of course, French”, according to [W. Somerset] Maugham, “To eat well in England you have to eat breakfast three times ”. The vituperation of the English Voltaire, though, drifts when writing that in the islands there are only two sauces—although to compensate there are forty-two religions. It is a mistake: the English may not have exported meatloaf and kidneys, but it will be a rare place in the civilized world where there is no bottle of Perrins to correct the Bloody Mary. The civilized will know the counterpoint of the sauces - they call them gelatins - currant or blueberry with game.
Deserved or not, the bad reputation of English cuisine is one of the most solid things in this world, and perhaps that is why even sauces have known haters. Our Camba speaks of "a series of porridge, creams, milk soups, preserves and jams, which reveals to us the English people as a people that has not yet come of age." Add jellies and custards to the list. For Alberto Denti, so much salsería is due to the fact that the English, “unable to flavor their food, turn to them to add to their dishes what they do not have”. And it still mentions chutneys, ketchups, canned extracts of all kinds.
It is striking that the most patriotic sauce, English mustard, has no English who dares to try it. When the roast beef arrives and the waiter, solicitous, approaches us with the mustard pots, we are sure that neither Wellington or Churchill would have hesitated to choose French mustard. It is not a question of cosmopolitanism: it is the devastating potential of English mustard, which burns the unconscious palate like the most spiteful chili. Yes, it's a shame: we all love the beautiful little cans of Colman's mustard, that yellow colour... but, in the end, French mustard wins. And also the horseradish: you have to have a lot of eye to know at a glance when it is alive and when it burns. As a consolation we have, at least, that noble Anglo-Indian creation of the spirit: the piccalilli, a "mustard with things" - specifically, a tamed mustard with turmeric and with slices of cauliflower, gherkin pickles, etc. If it sounds strange, take it with a good sweet ham.
If English mustard is as famous as it is feared, Marmite is as famous as it is divisive. This crap - well, I know where I am - is a very salty yeast extract that is eaten spread for breakfast, so it doesn't qualify as a sauce, surely, but it does enter the archive of unspeakable British things. Also, it is fair to say, it is part of the sentimental scene of the English along with the classic typography of the BBC or the red mailboxes: one finds it striking that it continues to be sold in peacetime, but there is no doubt that it is beautiful that it exists . And since we've talked about controversies, shouldn't we take a closer look at the mint sauce, for the lamb? Perhaps we Spaniards are infanticides in terms of sheep, but the recourse to mint sauce is only explained when the lamb is more than three years old: when it is a good sheep. Mint sauce is one of those things that are not good but when they are good, break out the wine.
Peppermint sauce has maintained a certain old-fashioned bon ton, like that other survival of the old French-style hotel kitchens: Cumberland sauce, in those days when a galantine could be eaten without irony. And it is curious that, perhaps because it could not be reduced to cans, the bread sauce, so medieval, so dear to the British, so necessary and splendid with a good Scottish partridge, has had less success abroad than the solo career of Ringo Starr.
Another sauce whose contemplation enlivens the heart of the Briton is the HP Sauce, named for its popularity in the Houses of Parliament: gallons of this barbecue sauce - sweet, unsophisticated, convincing - are consumed every Sunday with the English breakfast. It is striking: it is one of the few British ideas that the Duke of Norfolk likes the same as does the milling turner of Stockton-on-Trent. Perhaps this could also include the Braxton pickle –a classic of drunkard's whereabouts - or a passion for gravy, meat juice, and boats: That great invention that fed soldiers on the battlefield, today is –ay- a paste loaded with thickeners for the worst pub grub ...
The primacy in the English salserío, however, is won by a sauce that nobody knows what it is for: the Worcestershire or Worcester sauce, also called Lea and Perrins for its inventors. Some have wanted to find in it a reminiscence of the Roman Garum: both sauces are based on fish - in the case of the English one, anchovies. Its truer origins, however, are in a more corner place: colonial Bengal. Returning to England, an old governor of the region, still possessed by the exotic flavors of those lands, commissioned pharmacists John Lea and William Perrins to reproduce a mixture of fish, vinegar and sugar and the sweet and sour addition of tamarind. The copy turned out to be a smelly paste and the pharmacists parked the barrel in a cellar and forgot about it. They literally forgot: months or years later, on a day of cleaning the basement, they were about to throw away the barrel when - by chance - they tested its contents. The impression was wonderful. More or less like every time someone puts a Welsh rarebit in front of us and we do what every good Brit does: flood it in Perrins sauce.
For all his ribbing, Peyró, who has lived in the UK for two-and-a half years, is enthusiastic and knowledgeable when it comes to UK produce and cooking. He is a fan of its kippers, soups, fresh raspberries, oysters, fennel, “really, really good eggs”, and what he calls its “extraordinary range” of beers – even if many would not suit a Spanish summer afternoon’s drinking.
“I always defend British food and I think it’s not as well known as it should be,” he told the Guardian.
“You’ve got wonderful things, such as pies – chicken and leek pie, for instance, is a marvellous thing – which are lovely because they’re sort of ancient foods; a bit like Henry VIII’s tupperware. And besides, a pie is always something special. Then you have the roasts. You just can’t argue with roast beef.”
But, as with his heretical stance on Marmite, there are some things he fears he will never get his head or mouth around.
“To be honest, I don’t think anyone from the continent ever gets used to rhubarb,” he admits.
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/ap09/spanish-writer-spills-beans-on-uks-saucy-secrets
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2019.09.28 07:12 Lucifuge88 I am Malay and Not a Muslim: Why I left Islam (Myth of Peaceful Islam in Malaysia)

I should probably say that my article is not intended to 'bash' or 'insult' Islam, rather it's just a criticism of Islam, and stating why I left it. All of this is protected by the Constitution of this country which allows for Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion. However, should this article go public, I strongly believe some Malays or Muslims will report it for 'incitement of unrest or violence', something that is notorious among the Muslim society here in Malaysia. It's always ok for other religion to be ridiculed or criticised but theirs is somehow 'the holiest of the holiest'; those who dare to go against it will be punished.
You may also wonder why I do not just leave and keep quiet about it and my answer in Islam, apostasy is dealt with the death penalty. Ex-Muslims are probably the most executed minorities in the world where they are tortured, killed or jailed in Muslim majority countries and called 'Islamophobic' by liberals in the west. Unfortunately, these people do not know the true colours of this 'peaceful religion'. Therefore, this is why I am voicing out. It is about time ex-Muslims in Malaysia does the same since we can only hope on each other to survive in this country that oppresses us. I did not write this to be famous or infamous, I simply want to convince ex-Muslims in Malaysia that they are not alone and should not be afraid.
Anyhow, without further ado, here are some of the reasons why I left Islam:
  1. Islam is not the religion of peace
This will probably shock nobody but somehow even non-Muslims in Malaysia fail to see this; the religion is not peaceful. Preachers here in Malaysia will always say 'Islam' comes from the word 'Salam' which means peace; thus, Islam is a religion of peace. You will also hear politicians from different political parties especially PAS and UMNO (the two biggest Islamic and Malay party in Malaysia) saying that Islam will bring peace and harmony for everyone. Yes, it will bring peace and harmony but only for Muslims. As I mentioned before, the penalty for apostasy death but you should also know the penalty for blasphemy is also death, adultery is also death and homosexuality is also death. What is so peaceful about that? They might as well call it the religion of death, perceiving that death is the central theme of the religion.
'But this will only affect Muslims, non-Muslims won't be affected by sharia law. They can live freely,' Muslims group said but under more than 60 years under UMNO and now under the person who used to run it are non-Muslims free? Think about the arrests made under the Sedition Act where non-Muslims are accused of inciting 'violence and civil unrest' when they criticise Islam. Another example that I'd like to give is if LGBTQ+ goes against Islamic teaching why are non-Muslim LGBTQ+ individual also punished. Why has not the sodomy law be repealed so that it would not affect non-Muslims?
Besides, the survey by Pew Research Center in 2013 shows that 41% of Muslims in Malaysiabelieve that Sharia Law should apply to non-Muslims. Keep in mind that the poll was carried out in 2013. Do you think the number has increased or decreased since then? The answer is obvious; it has increased and will increase, even more so after PAS and UMNO forms the government in Malaysia, something that I'm sure would happen, seeing that the PH government is too weak, with low approval numbers.
Religion is supposed to be a personal belief. If you want to worship Allah, Jesus or Krishna, that is up to you, but you simply cannot for everyone else to do the same. Your religion is not special. You may think it is the ultimate revelation that the rest of humanity needs to follow but it's not. It's utter rubbish, literally written by men to control the populace, especially women, which lead to the second reason as to why I left the religion
  1. Islam is not the feminist religion it claimed to be
Many Muslims will tell you that Muhammad is somehow a feminist figure who liberated women who were oppressed before Islam. They said female babies are killed and women cannot be in the position of power. But what you stopped and wondered if that's true? A research done by professors of The Hashemite University and Albalqa Applied University in Jordan found that the claim of infanticide in pre-Islamic society is not true. Infanticide aside, have you ever wondered how Khadijah, Muhammad's first wife is a successful businesswoman if women were so oppressed in pre-Islamic Arabic society? Surely she would have been a sex slave. I know this is a flawed logic but remember that there were female rulers who ruled the region before Islam.
Even assuming that this liberation myth is somehow true, what is liberating about how women are treated in Islam? For example, one male witness is equivalent to two female witnesses (Quran 2:282). That automatically places women at a lower standard than men in Islam, something that is disgusting and dehumanising. Imagine a woman getting raped and having to have four male witnesses or eight female witnesses in order for the offender to be punished. If the victim fails to do so, she is the one who will be punished for 'fitnah' or false accusation, even if scientific reports shows otherwise. In what universe would this be seen as acceptable. Yes, in Malaysia we do not have that system but imagine the PAS-UMNO coalition coming into power.
Even without Sharia Law being fully implemented in Malaysia, women are still treated in a dehumanising manner. They were sued in Kelantan for wearing clothes that are 'sexy and not appropriate'. Why are the Sharia authorities doing so? They are simply following the Islamic teachings that require women to cover up (wearing the hijab). I have no objections to anyone wearing the hijab, but if and only if it's their personal choice. The problem is, the same cannot be said for most Muslim women. They are disowned by their family, ridiculed by society and in places like Kelantan, sued by the authorities. How is that feministic and empowering?
When I was a Muslim, my Islamic Studies teacher told me that Allah tells women to cover up because if not, men would rape them. This, in my opinion, dehumanises both women and men because firstly, it is a form of victim shaming and secondly, it is a horrid statement, making men appear as nothing more than horny, rapey monsters. It is time to teach men to have more respect towards women, not to force women to cover up in potato sacs because men cannot control their horniness. If they could not do so, I suggest a hijab for men, one which covers their eyes.
Furthermore, wives are expected to be their husband's slave. If they refuse to have sex, the wife can be divorced or even beaten. The Quran also said the angels would curse the wives until dawn. This is what annoys me the most. Most Muslims will say Islam is so peaceful, it teaches husbands how to beat their wives. NO peaceful religion should teach their followers how to be violent. Furthermore, it is also forbidden for the wife to leave the house or to let someone else in the house without the permission of the husband. Imagine being a parent or a sibling and not being to visit your daughter or sister because of her husband.
  1. Muhammad is a paedophile
Muslims will always say that 'Muhammad is the perfect human being and the perfect role model' but he is a paedophile. Why? He has a wife named Aisha' who he married when she was six years old. The marriage, however, was consummated when she was nine years old which mean he raped a child. This is why child marriage is an issue among Muslims in Malaysia. I am fully aware other religion or races practice child marriages to but the title of this article is 'Why I left Islam' and so, I will only be focusing on Islam.
The beloved prophet in Islam is also far from being peaceful, let alone perfect. Politicians and Malay Preachers will tell you wonderful stories about how Muhammad was kind towards those who insulted him and ruled Medina fairly but they would not tell you the dark parts. They would not tell you that he had sex slaves, killed critics of Islam, practised polygamy, killed Jews, divided captured women among soldiers, etc. On the question of polygamy, I am not saying that polygamy is immoral. It is not a business of mine to tell someone how many wives or husbands they can have. However, in Islam, only men are allowed to have more than one wife but the wife cannot have more than one husband.
This also brings to the topic of rewards in heaven. The hadith says, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' (Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 39). But what about women? Will they be given 72 husbands? Also, what about the LGBTQ community who chose to remain celibate in order not to anger Allah. Will they get the same reward or will they just burn in hell because of who Allah made them to be?
  1. Islam preaches hate: Moderate Islam in Malaysia is a myth
I truly believe that Islam preaches hate and is indeed an extreme right-wing ideology, similar to Nazism or Fascism. If you ask them, many Malay and Muslims in Malaysia will tell you that being a Muslim makes them superior compared to people of other religions. For instance, the main reason why Malaysia failed to sign on to the 'International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination' (ICERD) is because of objections from Malays. When asked why, they simply said (and I paraphrase, 'Because we are want to safeguard our rights' What about the rights of others? If your religion is so peaceful, wouldn't you be rallying against income inequality or high cost of living instead of against a convention to end discrimination? When you think you're special just because of your religion then you're no better than Hitler or the KKK, and you still have to gall to call out 'apartheid' in Israel.
I blame the Malay Supremacy problem in Malaysia on Islam. It is indeed the religion that teaches them to be hateful of others. When I was a Muslim, my Islamic Studies teacher told me that Muslims needs to befriend Muslims first. What kind of mentality is that where you even want to control who people are friends with. Indeed you can say that I left Islam because 'you're just angry' but that's just one in many reasons. In school, Muslims are also taught that one day, the Muslim army under Imam Mahdi will kill all the Jews and reconquer Jerusalem. We were taught to hate the Jews just because they happen to be Jews. I questioned my Islamic teacher about why I must hate every Jewish person but I was instead told to shut up and just accept the teachings of the Quran and the Hadith.
Like any other religion, we were also taught that we were indeed somehow special because Allah made us Muslims. Muslims were taught that the religious have a higher 'ranking' in the eyes of Allah. This is why Muslims are so sensitive when it comes to criticism. They think that Allah has increased their 'ranking'; thus, they are somehow 'sacred' compared to the others. On top of that, Muslims give labels to non-Muslims, calling them Kafirs and Infidels, telling them they would burn in hell for eternity. This fuels the 'us versus them' enigma which leads to the increasing Islamic Supremacy attitude in Malaysia, causing them to think they are untouchable. I was taught by my Islamic teachers to be compassionate and never upset others but somehow that teaching is gone once someone of another race talks about Islam.
I still remember the incident where the word 'Allah' was used in the Malay version of the bible. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims (mostly Malay) went to the street, saying that they need to protect Allah's honour as if Allah who's supposed to be an omnipotent being is unable to do it on its own. I've always wondered if they knew how ridiculous they looked. Furthermore, when Liberal Muslims criticise Orthodox Muslims, they were treated with death threats. I still remember seeing FB posts of 'Ustazs' telling people to pray for the death of Siti Kasim, a prominent Liberal Muslim in Malaysia. I also still remember that time when two lesbian couples were canned in public because they were caught ATTEMPTING to have sex. This is yet another example of pushing their religion down people's throat.
Why is your religion so special that everyone else has to respect it? The shooting at Charlie Hebdowouldn't have happened if Muslims were not so sensitive and have respected the freedom of speech. The Charlie Hebdo shooting was not the only incident where Muslims reacted violently when their religion is criticised. Raif Badawi, for example, was sentenced to 1000 years in prison for writing a blog in Saudi Arabia and Asia Bibi, a Pakistani woman was almost sentenced to death for blasphemy. People are offended by many things, I included but to quote Richard Dawkins, 'So what if I'm offended?' The right to offend is and must be protected under the Freedom of Speech because it is the only effective defender of the Enlightenment Values.
To conclude, Islam is simply incompatible with humanity. Allah is the most homophobic, sexist, psychotic fictional character I have ever met in my life. Just in case you're wondering when did I leave Islam, it was when a preacher once told me 'The Jews in the holocaust deserved to die,' No, nobody deserves to die but Islam seems to be high on killing and that's why I'm no longer a Muslim and I would like to call out all ex-Muslim especially those who are Malays to come together and help make Malaysia a secular nation.
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2019.09.11 20:28 birdinthebush74 23 Week Babies BBC documentary (60 mins) from 2011. Looking at extremely premature neonates on 'the edge of life'. Relevant regarding Gov Northam's comments on palliative care and the accusation of infanticide

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2019.08.07 16:48 LawUntoChaos Feminist Feary Pt 2: C vs C Showdwon Rape Culture/Toxic Masculinity/Collective Guilt/Biases Against Women

Rape Culture/Toxic Masculinity/Collective Guilt/Biases Against Women.

Okay, so this technically four theories in one. Sorry, won't do that again. I'm getting tired now, but these four are particular pet peeves of mind. They grind my gears and burn my bacon so I wanted to include them. So, these are extension of patriarchy which would be enough really (considering my break down above) but I just have to call these out in particular(and yes, on some level it is a personal reaction but I won't judge individuals who believe in these terms. They are certainly widespread enough in the media [1][2]. No, I won't do that. People are entitled to their opinions. What I will not do is hold back my compunctions because I really really heavily disagree). I will explain why I think this, perhaps I am wrong. I think I would prefer it if I was. Here we go...
1) Rape Culture - This is a personal issue to me, I am going to attempt to remain as objective as possible but I am but a human with flaws and biases and everything in between. So as feminism would have us believe, we live in a culture that both excuses rape, and normalises. This allows men to get away with perverse acts and all men have a responsibility to stop it, as they are inherently complicit (I hate the notion that any group is responsible for the actions of others by mere extension of belonging in that group, I will frame it from a feminist angle but I am going to tackle this as a third point as it pertains to both Rape Culture and Toxic Masculinity). The idea being that risqué jokes embolden it (this a flawed premise, again putting too much power on socialisation). Cultivation only works under specific circumstances, which works through constant fear, propaganda and an "other" to hate. This doesn't just happen, when propaganda is used. It usually takes decades to take effect. Things like stereotype threat and the monkey see monkey do theories don't have much weight, in the linked article it mentions an experiment demonstrating that causal factors between self-esteem and academic achievement is weak, (check out Study 2). Media, entertainment, cultivation and representation is another subject unto itself (so maybe another day).
The idea that not believing women wholesale from the get go is somehow victim blaming, even though we have seen this go bad in the past. And (to sell my soul and go intersectional), the majority of people in the innocence project are exonerated from sexual assault and are black. On a personal level, I would believe any friend who told me of a traumatic experience but in terms of enforcing this rule on all of society (at a legal and public level) for all women, is a bad idea, even though our trauma may be real but our memories have a habit of making shit up. Rape is horrible. I know! But the situation is more nuanced than that. It is not an easy topic both in terms of emotional reaction and technical resolution, but we need to be mindful of the truth to proceed appropriately.
Why do I disagree with it so heavily? Well for one it frames it in a very misleading way. That somehow we live in a culture that champions rape, and that people just need to be educated on what constitutes rape. However, most people aren't rapist and sometimes things aren't as they appear, some people do need education but I would say it is still a small amount (it's just on an individual level they tend to do it more than once. Some people are just awful). This comes down to rape being about power as a pure women's issue, but this doesn't seem to ring absolutely true [1][2][3][4]. There is also the argument of Patriarchy, but research suggests that men (in aggregate) have less in-group bias than women, this becomes especially true when the man has more positive attitudes toward sex (though this is correlational it does seem to suggest that sexually active men humanise women more than let's say a raging incel :P). Also, studies suggest that men don't see sexualised women as less, well they do, but only when they are portrayed as less confident.
We also shouldn't pretend that women can't be ignorant toward men who have been sexually assaulted, I have heard the line (not frequently, but it does happen) that because someone has an erection, they consented. Multiple sources reveal that sexual assault against men may be more common than first thought [1][2]. So whilst from what we can see 1 in 4 women will be victims of assault, 1 in 6 men will be as well. We should all take these with a pinch of salt (as they're self-reported), but it does really diminish the whole idea of rape just being a male thing in Patriarchal world, kind of odd when in my country forced to penetrate isn't included under law. Yet, a lot of men are traumatised by their experiences. These aren't included as part of rape statistics.
So while it can be argued that women have a hard time being believed and get infantilised, they at least get recognition. Men are treated with more respect, but male victims are treated like they don't even exist. The truth is though, there is a fear culture against rape these days (and false accusations), we don't need to be so afraid of each other. Let's take the one in five college statistic, this is ridiculous (plainly put) and just drives fear. If I ever had a daughter (doubtful at this point), and I believe that the statistic. I'd be like, hell no you ain't going to college! I mean, it would put the rates to the same as the Congo and those are insanely high. As a side note, both a lot of people get rape and false accusations wrong. About 3.5% (American stats here) of rapes get a conviction in court, 2-7% are proven false. This leaves a grey area of about 80% where we actually can't be judge either way (without looking into the cases individually). If rape is rare, then so is having a false accusation levied against you. Most people aren't going to be rapists and most people aren't going to ruin you with an accusation. Fear is everywhere.
Is the low conviction rate because the police don't take these charges seriously? Certainly to some extent, there was the fact that 11,000 rape kits went untested. While it's good that they were as it did lead to convictions, it only resolved 7.4% of the cases. This won't lead to a massive influx of justice for women. Rape is hard to prove if not caught immediately, and honestly it is hard for victims to come forward (and you can't force them). This is unfortunate, but we do have due process for a reason. The conviction rate is low for all crimes, notice how possession of drugs and weapons has a much higher conviction rate. I think (tentatively) that it is because possession is easier to prove. There isn't even that high a conviction rate for murder. This brings me onto #MeToo and where I would like to end this segment. #MeToo achieved some good, it helped lead to some arrests and dragged some bad actors into the light (pardon the unintentional pun). But, it hasn't really helped in the way it was supposed to. Since #MeToo began, it has become clear that people are less likely to believe women (not more). This is correlational, so I'm not saying it hurt women being believed, but wasn't it supposed to have the opposite effect? I wouldn't be surprised if it had an affect, though. Men are less trusting of women in the workplace now. Also, it has had effect on due process. Harvard University fired a professor from his position as dean for daring to represent Harvey Weinstein, what's more he was the first black dean of the house. How's that for interesctionality? I don't like Harvey Weinstein but I do think he's entitled to a defence, this is fear driving an attack on due process. We should be championing due process even for our enemies. It is insulting, considering the cases this man has under his belt, to say he was anywhere near playing favourites [1][2]. Other experts in the field have spoken out. I'm not too bothered about Sullivan. He'll be okay. But how would this level of vitriol affect people at the bottom, we don't have to look far to see the results. We've seen this sort of attack against due process before, and it wasn't good then. Margaret Atwood had something to say on this, so I'll just leave the rest to her. Who puts it better than I ever could.
2) Toxic Masculinity - This is the strongest definition I could find of it: "It is how insecurities manifest (usually men, but women can have toxic masculine traits too). This is the idea that men are socialised to idolise traits like aggression, or misogyny as part of being a "real man". So, as a result their insecurities about their manhood lead them to toxic acts. Now, not all men who have toxic attitudes about masculinity do bad things but it reinforces the bad behaviour. Hence, it is worth concentrating on to reduce domestic violence against women". So this sounds quite logical, right... Toxic males do exist, I have met them. I have been victim to them. I agree with toxic males trending toward violence to prove their strength, again, I've seen it.
I don't think that this can be extrapolated to all violence committed by the male population, there are different more effective methods for challenging this. Sometimes it's learned patterns of behaviour (not just from males, mind) and can be cultivated by all kind of environmental queues (being bullied, sexually abused, growing up around domestic violence, being neglected etc, in other words it mainly comes down to learned patterns of behaviour). There are about 17 factors that create the conditions for domestic violence including alcohol consumption, even early onset puberty seems to be a factor. to add to that, how do we know that people don't use toxic masculinity to excuse these behaviours rather than them being caused by it (correlation vs causation). When we are stressed and feel out of control, our brain's exhibit a fight or flight response. This is implies violence is implicit within everyone (although not explicit). Testosterone can increase aggression in already aggressive people, this doesn't mean that if someone has high testosterone they would be aggressive and society definitely plays a role. So do private experiences. As does biology. Different studies show different things. My tentative hypothesis is that there are so many variables that go into aggression, toxic masculinity is just too specific for any kind of fix on violence (as a whole). This is especially important when you can see that even in non-state societies, men are the perpetrators of the most extreme violence. I don't mean to suggest that most men are violent (most aren't) but the extreme deviations into violence are caused by multiple factors.
There is more and more evidence to suggest that the issue of violence is a far more complex issue than toxic masculinity can address adequately (or even fairly - factors for violent behaviour are different for each individual). What I find interesting is that multiple studies/groups have multiple definitions, so it is not even consistent as a working term. This article, doesn't even bother to make the link between toxic masculinity and behaviours but just argues from the point of view of Patriarchy (so it is ill defined). This paper associates it with depression and social media use, but it still doesn't seem to demonstrate cause and effect? As far as I can see, all these papers conflate correlation with causation and don't account for other factors. This paper, uses self-reported measures of toxic masculinity which apparently women reported on more, (though I have no citation because of the paywall). What is interesting is that (in this particular study) feminine gender roles were also "associated" with emotional manipulation. Is this toxic femininity, I would be more accepting of toxic masculinity if we made this a thing as well?
The research exists (only about 30 years of replicated research) on how anit-social behaviour manifests in men and women differently [1][230228-9/fulltext)][3]. So, women are more socially orientated, and this trait taken to extremes leads to toxic behaviour that actively harms people (and could be argued to have a basis in insecurity). This could easily be put down to Toxic Femininity but they aren't. It is just considered anti-social behaviour, driven by similar conditions to what creates the conditions in men. It just manifests differently. Not to say that indirect social behaviour is limited to women (we're talking aggregates) but violence isn't a purely male phenomenon either as there is evidence to suggest that women can be just as violent (though they don't harm their partners as much, a man a week is put in hospital due to domestic violence [4] [5]). This study even suggest that more men are subject to emotional abuse than women (again not trying to have a competition here). Using a more tabula rasa (yeah I know) approach, what's to say that suppressing aggression won't just lead people to internalise their aggression to come out in the long term. Which arguably, is what you would say happens with women when they turn violent. It's not expected of them so they internalise their bitter feeling (talking in generalisations of course). So if we socialise men along the same lines, doesn't it just mean they will use other excuses to turn to violence. To add to that, men's violence would potentially still be greater due to their greater muscle mass and heightened aggression. It might only be the perception that is biased. Differences are greater between people within groups than they are between them.
There's all sorts of factors that go into domestic abuse for both sexes, the motivations for violence may overlap between people of different groups more than we give credit for. [6][7]. To me, toxic masculinity is much the same as this argument: "Immigrants are suppressing wages and raising house prices so we can resolve economic issues by greatly reducing immigration". The first half is a technically true statement (very cherry picked), but useless in both theory and application as the factors going into economic issues are far beyond immigration policy (and arguably, hardly even relevant at all). Masculinity is so much more complicated than which traits are good or bad. Traits considered bad can be honed for good and traits considered good can be honed for bad (also masculinity can be guided with traditional feminine models of thought, masculinity and femininity are not absolute opposites but different modes of thought and different ways of coping with the world). Also, more positive displays of masculinity can overcome more negative displays, masculinity is not so simple. Yet the APA guidelines do not seem to recognise this.
Men and women tend to cope with stress differently on average and there is evidence to suggest that this is in part, determined by biology, twin studies support the hypothesis that personality is (in part) determined by biology [9][10] Here's more studies suggesting biological differences [11],[12].
Toxic Masculinity is woefully inadequate in dealing with this and yet is championed by the official APA guidelines, good luck "socialising" boys to be more feminine in the way they handle stress, that's all that I have to say. Here's an example: "Toxic Stoicism (as a subset of Toxic Masculinity)" is supposed to be such a bad thing that means men suppress their emotions, which is why they commit more suicide. Except there is much more to it than this.... research suggests that men tend to use more aggressive methods and men are more likely to be autistic (which unfortunately is linked to higher suicide rates). If we tackled it as a result of Toxic Masculinity, wouldn't we be ignoring a lot of autistic people? How exactly would Toxic Masculinity help with suicide attempts when across genders suicide is directly linked to perceived insults from friends, family (and I would hazard a guess people in authority, say psychologists) that impacts on thwarted belongingness (a factor linked to suicide)? So, if you're (no not you specifically, I'm using the royal you) telling men their behaviour is toxic (bearing in mind these are mentally ill people) they may perceive it as an insult (even if it isn't intended to be) considering this is linked to depressed people killing themselves. It really doesn't seem like a good idea. Also, there are multiple studies showing that self-acceptance is more important than self-esteem for defending against suicidal thoughts [13][14], if they're being told their emotional processes are wrong. How will this help them reach self-acceptance?
Toxic Masculinity is the idea that one variable makes the other variables obsolete, this is a smoke and mirrors argument - when applying a univariate analysis to a multivariate issue, you are not being scientific (unless you can demonstrate why the variable makes the other variables wrong). This argument, attributing one variable to complex problems, mandates inclusion/exclusion criteria that reduces variability and removes any confounding factors, which can only result in making the theory less generalisable to broader society The argument can be technically true but on a very narrow analysis. By focusing in on "toxic masculinity", they are ignoring confounding factors such as biological differences, these things overlap and without determining where these intersect with each other, you cannot apply the term "Toxic Masculinity" as any kind of fix. While there are people who believe this is a good way of addressing the problem, it literally implies that only toxic masculine behaviours are bad for society (this is from the same ideology that states all "good" masculine traits aren't masculine traits, but for all genders). So by extension, it leaves men with only the bad traits. We don't bill industriousness (high link to success) as 'Positive Masculinity'. Yet empathy is considered a feminine trait, which is what feminists use to defend their ideas. Some of the greatest human horrors have come about because of selective empathy (Communism was for the worker's rights, after all). I think it goes without saying, I very much have my doubts on this analysis. In my opinion, this is all just motivated reasoning, and it's motivated by misandrist thought. It is an umbrella term, that can be just used to define any male trait that someone doesn't like as toxic and ignores how men learn and interact. Don't just take it from me.
3) Collective blame (Men need to control their group) - I despise this argument. I think I've already demonstrated amicably how there are greater variations within groups than between and I don't believe men will listen to another man just by mere fact they both have penises. Both men and women compete in different ways, but men compete through physical challenges, and for mating partners, this in turn is reflective in the need for financial success. Men compete against each other, they aren't inherent buddies. They also do tend to insult each other a lot. A person can call out their own friends but they have no control over men in general and even then it is no guarantee they will listen. Hence the prevalence of the word cuck in anti-feminist communities. Men can no more change each other than women can (or any individual can change another, really).
It's like when people say that Islamic communities need to call out terrorists, despite the fact that there's multiple sects that don't acknowledge other sect followers as proper Muslims. They won't have control over each by the fact their all a kind of Muslim. Men don't have control over other men by the fact they happen to share a Y chromosome. They're less sociable than women in aggregate, so they tend not to give as many fucks about social pressures anyway (to a varying degree). Considering as well that (according to this study, and wider societal stats) they really aren't able to stop each other. Toxic men will go looking for fights, I don't know what feminists imagine to happen. If a man saw another man in the street harassing a women and went up to him to stop him, they'd likely end up just getting thrashed themselves. I just wanted to point out that this idea of people policing their group by the mere fact that they happen to share a (insert immutable characteristic here) is grossly unfair. No matter who you demand it of. Women are more over represented in infanticide (I know this is an oversimplification, I'm being facetious), should women be expected to police each other? Or how lesbians are the most likely to be abusive to their partners, do they need to police their groups? If you're answer isn't: "Of course not! How sexist/homophobic!" I don't know what else to say. It's collectivist nonsense.
4) Bias against Women (Negative perceptions against women are historical and those biases are keeping people down) - I really think this is a funny one, because it's obviously true that there were a lot of double standards and biases against women (which in my opinion, came from the conditions creating those biases not the other way around) and there is research proving that there is a slight bias against women overall, but this pattern is not everywhere and is only strong under specific circumstances. Also, I haven't found any results determining these effects after 2004 so there is the potential that this isn't really a factor anymore. Biases and stereotypes can (and do) change overtime, this recent study show that attitudes toward women have come a long way in recent years. But men have been diminished, the only metric where women do worst on gender attitudes is in regards to agency though the people who think it is equal are nearly to the same amount as people who think that men have more agency. If bias is holding women back, how come a shift in positive bias toward women correlates with a wider gendered gap in terms of outcomes in society [1][2]?
As to the argument that men are put off by intelligent women, and this has led to biases in promotions/hiring. Whilst there is some evidence that men are put off by intelligent women, this only seems to be when they are directly affected by it. Recent trends on Tinder suggests that men aren't intimidated by highly educated women, so this is unclear.
As to men in the Patriarchy being more biased against women, well this just seems to be plain untrue. Take this replicated study that finds pro female bias (2001) and this one (2001), women like women more than men like men (2004, linked previously), males implicit and explicit attitudes show an age-related shift toward increasing female positivity (2016), men & women more strongly blamed men for their own disadvantages, were more supportive of policies that favoured women (2018), people react more positively to Female-Favouring sex differences than male ones, this was particularly true if the individuals believe men are privileged over women (2019). I would also like to point out that a lot of these methods use IAT to measure bias, but the jury is out on how accurate that actually is (not going into this now, it is a post for another time). Whilst I can concede it may be true in certain situations that there is a trend of bias against high status and successful women, there is not enough evidence to suggest this is the case for the majority of incidences and the science does tend to trend in the other direction to what feminists claim. Another recent study showed that there is scientific bias in favour of finding gender bias in studies (2019). Supported by this hoax demonstrating the poor peer review process of feminist journals, where three people made up some research papers and found that they were getting accepted (not to mention that some of the papers were sent back, not for being innacurate but for not being progressive enough). So, if this was true in the past. It doesn't seem to be now.
To Be Continued...
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2019.02.27 15:19 subreddit_stats Subreddit Stats: RedditDayOf posts from 2019-01-18 to 2019-02-26 12:55 PDT

Period: 39.51 days
Submissions Comments
Total 267 576
Rate (per day) 6.76 14.39
Unique Redditors 96 324
Combined Score 7048 1804

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 883 points, 24 submissions: joelschlosberg
    1. Nixon's response to Roe v. Wade: "it breaks the family" but "There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape." (177 points, 20 comments)
    2. The ingredients of OpenCola. Created by a software company of the same name, which released all information about how to make the soda while selling the finished product, since that was exactly what they did for their open source computer programs. (146 points, 11 comments)
    3. An ordinary Swedish citizen was chosen to run the official Twitter account of Sweden each week for over 6 years. (99 points, 4 comments)
    4. Political Cartoon Even More Boring and Confusing Than Issue (91 points, 3 comments)
    5. I Shot Andy Warhol, a playable mod of the NES light gun game Hogan's Alley, in which all of the enemies are changed to Warhol. Meanwhile, all of the innocent bystanders are replaced by either the Pope, Flavor Flav or Colonel Sanders. (67 points, 5 comments)
    6. Hayao Miyazaki's concept art for a proposed adaptation of Pippi Longstocking. It never got made, but his character designs of a little girl with bright orange hair in double ponytails are almost identical to the ones he went on to make for the protagonist of Panda Kopanda (a.k.a. "Panda! Go Panda!") (60 points, 1 comment)
    7. Abobo's Big Adventure, in which a small team of NES superfans combined aspects of and references to almost every NES game into one giant playable mashup. (45 points, 0 comments)
    8. this original Star Wars trailer (39 points, 8 comments)
    9. The second, more complex Blue Ball Machine. (29 points, 3 comments)
    10. Polybius, a video game never proven to exist. Players of the rumored arcade cabinet claimed to be disoriented by the graphics and monitored by government secret agents. (21 points, 1 comment)
  2. 881 points, 56 submissions: 0and18
    1. Is that a monkey? (130 points, 1 comment)
    2. Watergate Cake (117 points, 10 comments)
    3. Grant Morrison’s run on Animal Man is full of fun stuff like this (110 points, 4 comments)
    4. Jim Steranko's Captain America #111 (1969) is some comic art way ahead of the curve. (92 points, 4 comments)
    5. The Hook (50 points, 2 comments)
    6. January 21 - Weird Al (29 points, 1 comment)
    7. Was the Reagan Era Government by Horoscope? (26 points, 6 comments)
    8. Days of the Dolphin: Cetaceans in Cold War Science and Science Fiction (22 points, 2 comments)
    9. February 3 - Desktop PC Building (17 points, 0 comments)
    10. Wisdom Teeth (17 points, 2 comments)
  3. 587 points, 10 submissions: jarvis400
    1. Blood Moon in Finland. (184 points, 4 comments)
    2. Tea selection in the 1901 Sears, Roebuck & co. catalogue (115 points, 9 comments)
    3. That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E (114 points, 0 comments)
    4. Gerald Ratner gave a speech in which he jokingly denigrated two of the company's products. After the speech, the value of the Ratner group plummeted by around £500 million, which very nearly resulted in the firm's collapse (85 points, 4 comments)
    5. The history behind the way Americans use forks (42 points, 8 comments)
    6. Dagen H - was the day on 3 September 1967, in which the traffic in Sweden switched from driving on the left-hand side of the road to the right (27 points, 0 comments)
    7. Cake - I Will Survive (original by Gloria Gaynor) (10 points, 1 comment)
    8. How the Fork Got Its Tines - The Evolution of Useful Things - 1st chapter (4 points, 0 comments)
    9. The longest known palindromic word is Finnish "saippuakivikauppias" (3 points, 1 comment)
    10. Two Ronnies - Four Candles (3 points, 0 comments)
  4. 504 points, 18 submissions: voltronforlife
    1. The Corner Industrial Bookshelf (114 points, 4 comments)
    2. Battle Angel Alita (1993). This is the first anime I ever saw. I fell in love instantly. I hope the upcoming movie doesn't kill it (55 points, 7 comments)
    3. Weird Al Yankovic in all 3 Naked Gun Movies! (50 points, 0 comments)
    4. Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 - Complete Broadcast. (45 points, 1 comment)
    5. Watch the Chicago Bears missed field goal attempt from the field (40 points, 3 comments)
    6. Bud Light apologizes for 'removing no' label (39 points, 14 comments)
    7. Jessica Hahn sex scandal brought down televangelist empire (39 points, 1 comment)
    8. Read Your Book Case (36 points, 0 comments)
    9. Tombstone of a gay veteran (22 points, 1 comment)
    10. Bloomingdale's sorry for 'inappropriate' spiked-eggnog ad (17 points, 9 comments)
  5. 373 points, 4 submissions: charlesdexterward
    1. The best villains are always the ones who have a good point. (290 points, 15 comments)
    2. “In the Realms of the Unreal” (2004) Documentary about outsider artist Henry Darger, whose epic novel and hundreds of paintings were only discovered after his death. (61 points, 0 comments)
    3. Lin-Manuel Miranda on Alexander Hamilton’s sex scandal (Drunk History) (19 points, 0 comments)
    4. “Off the Grid: Outsider Artists or Bad Artists” an introductory video to approaching outsider art. (3 points, 0 comments)
  6. 246 points, 9 submissions: coffeeblossom
    1. Why the Myers-Briggs test is totally meaningless (121 points, 12 comments)
    2. T. Rex's Tiny Arms May Have Been Vicious Weapons (50 points, 0 comments)
    3. The 10 Worst Diplomatic Faux Pas By Famous Politicians (31 points, 4 comments)
    4. Peggy's Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada (photo by Peter Waller) [5113x3408] (18 points, 1 comment)
    5. Saving a Person From Stroke with a Needle: DEBUNKED (7 points, 0 comments)
    6. The Florentine Codex (7 points, 0 comments)
    7. Dolphin Social Structure (6 points, 0 comments)
    8. Adam Ruins Everything - Why Detox Cleanses are a Rip-Off truTV (4 points, 0 comments)
    9. An Illustrated Subway Map of Human Anatomy (2 points, 0 comments)
  7. 201 points, 1 submission: twitch1982
    1. Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra's burger recipees (201 points, 0 comments)
  8. 175 points, 3 submissions: Measure76
    1. Al's parents died suddenly of carbon monoxide poisoning during one of his tours. (118 points, 3 comments)
    2. Al's latest album was his first to hit #1 on the Billboard chart. (51 points, 5 comments)
    3. Al's song about the pancreas is delightful (6 points, 0 comments)
  9. 173 points, 4 submissions: NotSid
    1. The Great Boston Molasses Flood (62 points, 1 comment)
    2. Take Me To The River performed by Talking Heads, originally by Al Green (54 points, 3 comments)
    3. March Across The Belts. A 1600s military campaign in which Sweden marched across a frozen strait to kick Denmark's ass (40 points, 0 comments)
    4. Caring and Supportive Funky Kong Gives You a Ride Home From The Airport (17 points, 1 comment)
  10. 163 points, 5 submissions: yankee4357
    1. The tombstone of Mel Blanc - The man of 1000 voices. (119 points, 3 comments)
    2. The True Story Behind 'The Front Runner' How Gary Hart's Scandal Changed Politics (15 points, 0 comments)
    3. The Legend of Zelda - Overworld Symphony (12 points, 0 comments)
    4. The Most Complex System Ever -- The Mousetrap Board Game (12 points, 2 comments)
    5. Rosa Parks' Peanut Butter Pancakes (5 points, 0 comments)
  11. 152 points, 1 submission: Georgy_K_Zhukov
    1. Johnny Cash - Hurt: Trent Reznor remarked on it "[I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore." (152 points, 6 comments)
  12. 150 points, 1 submission: ApprenticeCloud
    1. Mill Ends Park, the smallest park in the world (150 points, 12 comments)
  13. 130 points, 4 submissions: MortWellian
    1. Lorena Bobbitt crawled into bed with her sleeping husband and cut off his penis with a kitchen knife. She then left home with $100, Bobbitt’s Game Boy and his penis, which she tossed it into field across from a 7-Eleven. (65 points, 43 comments)
    2. All three Speakers of the House involved with the impeachment of President Clinton later had sex scandals of their own. (48 points, 1 comment)
    3. China in 1964, French embassy clerk Bernard Boursicot fell for an opera singer named Shi Pei Pu. The performer was a man masquerading as a woman. They had an affair for over 20 years and Shi even convinced him Shi had given birth to "their" son. It was turned into the Tony winning M Butterfly. (9 points, 1 comment)
    4. When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election - It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told. (8 points, 1 comment)
  14. 124 points, 2 submissions: MarioneTTe-Doll
    1. [Image cannot be displayed on account of a trademark claim by Johnson & Johnson] (66 points, 4 comments)
    2. A fork bomb is a denial-of-service attack wherein a process continually replicates itself to deplete available system resources, slowing down or crashing the system due to resource starvation. (58 points, 6 comments)
  15. 123 points, 1 submission: JustAskBaldwin
    1. Moon Knight vs. Dracula (123 points, 2 comments)
  16. 120 points, 1 submission: huskerfan4life520
    1. A 500-word palindrome by comedian Demetri Martin (120 points, 6 comments)
  17. 107 points, 2 submissions: RushAgenda
    1. The fascinating story of a fathers unshakable belief in his daugthers musical abilities, albeit they had none. (77 points, 8 comments)
    2. Sweden once tried to use moose as cavalery. It failed. (30 points, 7 comments)
  18. 96 points, 4 submissions: sbroue
    1. Largest-Known Dinosaur Footprint Discovered in Western Australia (2017) (55 points, 8 comments)
    2. Australian mentos ad with prehensile male nipples, is that NSFW? (26 points, 4 comments)
    3. Where do you get it ? (12 points, 4 comments)
    4. "Able Was I Ere I Saw Elba": Napoleon Bonaparte? (3 points, 0 comments)
  19. 95 points, 2 submissions: goofballl
    1. xkcd map of the worst hurricanes in history to hit the eastern US from 1914-2014 (87 points, 16 comments)
    2. German hard rock band Scorpions' 1984 hit "Rock You Like a Hurricane" reached 25 on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart. The Scorpions were inducted into the Hall of Heavy Metal History on January 18 2017. (8 points, 0 comments)
  20. 92 points, 1 submission: ghostonbody
    1. How to say yes in the north of Sweden (92 points, 16 comments)
  21. 85 points, 5 submissions: Fanciedfacts
    1. Always been inspired by optical illusion art. It tests your perception whichever part you see in the image. What do you see in the picture? (56 points, 22 comments)
    2. A very ancient cave-arts in England filled marks that were carved to ward off evil spirits (24 points, 3 comments)
    3. The artist decided to play with this famous Leonardo da Vinci painting of the Mona Lisa. (4 points, 0 comments)
    4. How many faces do you see in the picture? (1 point, 0 comments)
    5. Try to find the face in the coffee beans. (0 points, 0 comments)
  22. 85 points, 1 submission: Arqueete
    1. "Mykonos," a popular song from indie band Fleet Foxes (85 points, 6 comments)
  23. 80 points, 9 submissions: art-man_2018
    1. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise (1987) (16 points, 2 comments)
    2. Michael Pederson’s Lighthearted Street Art is Hidden in Plain Sight "The artist’s plaques, signs, and miniature architecture tend to center around ideas of escape, isolation, and our relationship to social norms." (11 points, 1 comment)
    3. New Coke: The Failure "In April 1985, New Coke was announced to the American public. Within hours, things began going downhill for Coca-Cola’s New Coke." (11 points, 3 comments)
    4. Oliphant's Anthem: Pat Oliphant at the Library of Congress (10 points, 1 comment)
    5. The Clash - I Fought the Law (original by Sonny Curtis of the Crickets) (10 points, 1 comment)
    6. Led Zeppelin - When The Levee Breaks (1971) (9 points, 1 comment)
    7. Staccato Panels in Comics Jim Steranko & Captain America Strip Panel Naked: Steranko's love of the staccato panel formation, seeing the same action unravel slowly to build a certain pacing and rhythm, and how that plays into the panels around these moments. (7 points, 1 comment)
    8. Stevie Wonder - You Haven't Done Nothin' (1974) (5 points, 2 comments)
    9. The Panama Deception is a 1992 American documentary that is critical of the actions of the U.S. military during the 1989 invasion of Panama, covering the conflicting reasons for the invasion. (1 point, 1 comment)
  24. 71 points, 1 submission: selfproclaimed
    1. This scene from Ecco the Dolphin: Tides of Time with no context. (71 points, 11 comments)
  25. 69 points, 1 submission: bunbunofdoom
    1. Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog! (69 points, 5 comments)
  26. 64 points, 1 submission: penguinland
    1. Praying mantis eating the face off a bee, North Carolina (64 points, 4 comments)
  27. 62 points, 4 submissions: LithiumEnergy
    1. Flocking is an example of true complex behaviour - agents following simple rules leads to emergent macro dynamics (28 points, 3 comments)
    2. Ultimate Compact Gaming PC (26 points, 1 comment)
    3. Mineral Oil Submerged PC (8 points, 11 comments)
    4. PC Building Simulator (0 points, 0 comments)
  28. 61 points, 5 submissions: themanwhosleptin
    1. History of Kitsune Yokai: Many-Tailed Fox Demons! (30 points, 0 comments)
    2. Waterfalls in Great Falls, Virginia, USA (9 points, 0 comments)
    3. Groundhog Enjoying A Snack (8 points, 0 comments)
    4. The Oldest Coffee Mugs in the World (8 points, 1 comment)
    5. Fox Village in Zao Japan (6 points, 0 comments)
  29. 58 points, 1 submission: camthecat
    1. The Oradour-sur-Glane massacre. Over 600 inhabitants of a French village were murdered by the Germans during WW2. The village was never rebuilt and stands as a memorial. (58 points, 2 comments)
  30. 57 points, 3 submissions: iam_potato
    1. Akira (1989) (53 points, 9 comments)
    2. First Case of Orca Infanticide Observed -- Mother helps son get laid (2 points, 0 comments)
    3. Scientists think orcas are removing sharks’ livers with ‘surgical precision.’ But why? (2 points, 0 comments)
  31. 55 points, 1 submission: masterfuleatgorilla
    1. How Groot feels about humanity. (55 points, 1 comment)
  32. 54 points, 1 submission: PhillipBrandon
    1. Cha if by land, tea if by sea: Historical trade routes explain why the world has two words for tea (54 points, 0 comments)
  33. 53 points, 2 submissions: Hell_Mel
    1. They Might Be Giants - I Palindrome I (29 points, 3 comments)
    2. The Goddamned Batman (24 points, 0 comments)
  34. 44 points, 1 submission: jostler57
    1. One of the best anime movies I’ve ever seen is Beautiful Dreamer 2. Why is the day repeating over and over? Beware the consequences should you unravel the mystery! (YouTube trailer gives away too much, so here’s the Wikipedia) (44 points, 9 comments)
  35. 44 points, 1 submission: m3owjd
    1. Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley, originally by Leonard Cohen (44 points, 11 comments)
  36. 32 points, 1 submission: exscape
    1. Weird Al - Bob: every line is a palindrome (32 points, 2 comments)
  37. 30 points, 1 submission: JoshWithaQ
    1. UHF (30 points, 2 comments)
  38. 30 points, 1 submission: PrinceDakkar
    1. Super Bowl 48 Favorites Denver Broncos Accidentally Score on Themselves on First Play, Go on to Lose to Seattle Seahawks by 35 Points (30 points, 1 comment)
  39. 30 points, 1 submission: argon1028
    1. Sounds of Stepdad (30 points, 1 comment)
  40. 28 points, 1 submission: MackAttack47
    1. Michigan loses to arch-rival Michigan State on the last play of the game (28 points, 3 comments)
  41. 26 points, 2 submissions: codename-sailorv
    1. Suzie and Jon have sex, freeze time, and rob banks--but the authors can't afford the rights to "Fat Bottomed Girls." (15 points, 1 comment)
    2. weirdal.com: "John Oliver decided Al was the only human who could successfully de-escalate the nuclear crisis..." (11 points, 2 comments)
  42. 25 points, 5 submissions: Flo__Moore
    1. Sweet - Fox On The Run (11 points, 2 comments)
    2. Sit in your bookcase (9 points, 0 comments)
    3. Belle and Sebastian - The Fox in the Snow (2 points, 0 comments)
    4. Paul Laffoley Obituary (2 points, 0 comments)
    5. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Foxey Lady (1 point, 0 comments)
  43. 22 points, 1 submission: missrisible
    1. The Wizard of Oz (1982). I watched this again & again on VHS until the tape broke! (22 points, 1 comment)
  44. 21 points, 3 submissions: tillandsia
    1. A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama (10 points, 1 comment)
    2. Purvis Young, artist from Overtown in Miami (8 points, 0 comments)
    3. The urinal that changed how we think (3 points, 2 comments)
  45. 21 points, 2 submissions: NoTimeForInfinity
    1. Sweet Jane Cowboys Junkies/Lou Reed (16 points, 2 comments)
    2. Richard Gere gerbilectomy/gerbilling (5 points, 1 comment)
  46. 20 points, 3 submissions: cossack_wannabe
    1. [email protected] - "Fix You", original by Coldplay. This is one of the only covers I've ever heard to give me chills and watery eyes. This man, breathing with the help of an oxygen tank and heart failure, sings a tribute to his recently deceased friend. This cover was originally supposed to be a duet. (16 points, 2 comments)
    2. The Twinkie Weiner Sandwich is a rare treat, first making itself known to the world in UHF. If youre curious about how it tastes, you can watch these discerning individuals try them out. (4 points, 0 comments)
    3. Drinking Sprite - just like sucking dick! (0 points, 1 comment)
  47. 20 points, 1 submission: Nesman64
    1. Classic web game Kingdom of Loathing has The Palindome, which is a zone full of palindromic encounters such as the Stab Bats, Tan Gnat, and Taco Cat. (20 points, 0 comments)
  48. 20 points, 1 submission: SwampRabbit
    1. Brokenburn, the Journal of Kate Stone 1861-1868 (20 points, 1 comment)
  49. 18 points, 1 submission: BonzosLiver
    1. Too Many Cooks (18 points, 3 comments)
  50. 17 points, 2 submissions: OneSalientOversight
    1. This image of Nixon bowling was used in the film "The Big Lebowski" (11 points, 0 comments)
    2. Nixon's "Checkers Speech" 1952. Nixon publicly defends his acceptance of a dog as a gift (among other things) (6 points, 1 comment)

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  1. 0and18 (64 points, 50 comments)
  2. EKrake (39 points, 1 comment)
  3. Kezika (35 points, 3 comments)
  4. sciences_bitch (35 points, 1 comment)
  5. twitch1982 (32 points, 2 comments)
  6. j_gagnon (32 points, 1 comment)
  7. elbitjusticiero (31 points, 13 comments)
  8. Das_Mime (30 points, 1 comment)
  9. _Foy (25 points, 1 comment)
  10. jerisad (25 points, 1 comment)
  11. jarvis400 (24 points, 6 comments)
  12. goodoldfreda (24 points, 4 comments)
  13. Codebender (24 points, 2 comments)
  14. MarioneTTe-Doll (23 points, 2 comments)
  15. art-man_2018 (22 points, 11 comments)
  16. joegekko (21 points, 2 comments)
  17. hornwalker (21 points, 1 comment)
  18. astronoob (20 points, 6 comments)
  19. joelschlosberg (19 points, 8 comments)
  20. CJSchmidt (19 points, 5 comments)
  21. csl512 (18 points, 4 comments)
  22. jherazob (18 points, 1 comment)
  23. jostler57 (17 points, 7 comments)
  24. bitt3n (17 points, 2 comments)
  25. notagen101 (17 points, 2 comments)
  26. dorky2 (17 points, 1 comment)
  27. slappymcnutface (17 points, 1 comment)
  28. wtfisthisnoise (16 points, 2 comments)
  29. Zentaurion (15 points, 4 comments)
  30. ukzario (15 points, 2 comments)
  31. BaconChapstick (14 points, 1 comment)
  32. Chilis1 (14 points, 1 comment)
  33. HideousNomo (14 points, 1 comment)
  34. _Aggort (14 points, 1 comment)
  35. shawdust0017 (14 points, 1 comment)
  36. 247world (13 points, 9 comments)
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2019.02.02 13:03 autotldr Controversy: Bill to lower standards for late-term abortions.

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A bill that would have removed restrictions on late-term abortions in Virginia has led to a conservative outcry.
Critics said the bill, which failed on Monday to be voted out of subcommittee, would have allowed infanticide.
Under current Virginia law, third-trimester abortions are only permitted if the risk to the mother's life is "Substantial and irremediable" - language that Democrats wanted removed.
The Democratic bill sought to allow for late-term abortions if the mother's physical or mental safety were at risk.
Virginia's Democratic Governor Ralph Northam defended the bill in an interview to radio station WTOP. The paediatric neurologist said the measure allowed termination "In cases where there may be severe deformities" or when there is a "Foetus that's not viable" outside the womb.
The Republican caucus in the Virginia House of Delegates tweeted: "Democrats proposed legislation to allow abortions up to just seconds before that precious child takes their first breath."
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2018.09.18 05:08 VestigialLlama4 Historical Inaccuracies in the AC Series all caught up: Caesar and Cleopatra according to Assassin's Creed Origins

I started this series with UNITY, then went to AC1, AC2, Brotherhood, Revelations, AC3 and Rogue. Black Flag. Syndicate. Now here we are. All caught up with Origins. The tenth major release of Assassin's Creed, and released in 2017, the ten year anniversary of the franchise.
As a game, ORIGINS presents a lot of challenges. One is this game is set in the Antiquity, the first AC game to go way back to the Pre-Crusades era. Then there is the size of ORIGINS, which is incredibly big, a recreation of a big swathe of Cleopatra' Egypt. There is also the volume of game content here on offer which is extensive and daunting. Ubisoft released the excellent Discovery Tour which substitutes for their database and maps out events and stuff on to terrain in an unique way. The game consulted a lot of Egyptologists for its recreation of the pyramids and managed to get ahead of a real-life archaeological discovery based on the theories of one of their consultants. The game has a huge number of side-quests and missions but most of them are errands of one kind or another, grounded however with a thematic unity with the main game's story. This makes them consistent and feel substantial but also repetitive and there's rarely an exploration of the world in a larger scope. As such I am mainly going to talk about the main campaign from beginning to end, while discussing side missions only in part.
Setting: Ptolemaic Egypt in the reign of Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator overlapping with the final leg of Caesar's Civil War and his dictatorship.
MAIN CAMPAIGN
Bayek is a Medjay, an ancient office in the Pharaonic age. Bayek blames the Ptolemies for the end of the Medjay but in fact it collapsed before Egypt's first foreign occupation by the Persians, who preceded Alexander. As such, Bayek's story has more fiction than history but we still have historical figures among the Proto-Templars, Lucius Septimus, the real-life Gabiniani Roman who killed Pompey Magnus, and Pothinus, the Royal Eunuch who was main henchman and minder of Ptolemy XIII. Among the Proto-Assassins, we have Pasherienptah III, an obscure priest of Memphis who is fictionalized here, and of course we have Marcus Junius Brutus, and Cassius among Aya's Roman recruits who show up at the end of the game. Other historical figures we see are: Ptolemy XIII, Cleopatra VII, Julius Caesar, Pompey Magnus, Apollodorous the Sicilian, Marcus Vitruvius.
The main story of Origins is entirely about Bayek's religious quest to ensure that his son Khemu finds peace in the afterlife, the Field of Reeds, that his death as a result of the Proto-Templars is avenged. His son's name, as is clear in the last Siwa Quest ("Bayek's Promise") is based on Kemet, the Hieroglyphic word the natives used to call their land, as opposed to Egypt, the Greek word based on a transliteration of the Temple of Ptah in Memphis. There's a joke waiting to be written about how we use the Greek Word for Egypt (Kemet) and the Latin word for Greece (Hellas). Most of Origins because of its religious and spiritual dimension for Bayek, and his personal grief, so we see repeatedly Bayek doing missions for Temple Priests, fighting corrupt priests and so on. Bayek's religious devotion, as an Egyptian polytheist, also brings him in conflict with Aya, his half-Greek wife who is way more keyed into the political side of stuff, and who is more like a traditional Assassin protagonist for better and worse. And Aya is the one who gets Bayek involved in the Civil War between Ptolemy XIII and Cleopatra VII, backing the latter and helping her come to power. Of these characters, very little is known about Apollodorous, Lucius Septimus and so on. So the game's take on them has the artistic license it needs.
The historical plot begins when Bayek comes to Alexandria, and meets Cleopatra in the mission "Egypt's Medjay". Cleopatra is one of the most speculated among historical figures because even if she comes from a period from which we have a lot of written sources (the First Century BCE), nearly everything that we know of her comes decades later, and much of it comes from the propaganda put forth by Augustus in his Civil War against Antony. That propaganda depending on how you see it either demonized her, or exaggerated her as more important than she likely deserved to be. In any case, recent biographers note that she was pretty young when she contested her Brother-Husband Ptolemy XIII to rule as Pharoah. The game's Cleopatra is not as young as she was, which was around 18-19 at the time she began her famous visit to the South to gain support from Egypt's traditional elite. She is also shown as this slutty vamp who comes on to Bayek and wears seductive dresses and so on, and is basically some Ptolemaic Lindsay Lohan. In actual fact, biographers like Stacy Schiff and Adrian Goldsworthy argue that it's highly likely she was a virgin when she met Caesar, and that it was Caesar who deflowered her. So this Cleopatra is more or less a redux of Caterina Sforza from AC2 in all matters. The game also follows recent tradition in focusing on Ptolemy XIII as her only rival. In actual fact the Alexandrine Civil War was a four-sided civil war with Cleopatra fighting Ptolemy XIII, another brother called Ptolemy, and her sister Arsinoe (sent to Rome as part of Caesar's triumph, but who the Roman mob so pitied that Caesar spared her and then had her live as a hostage. After his death, years later Antony executed her, likely on Cleopatra's orders). Cleopatra's appearance has an entire cottage industry dedicated to how beautiful she was or wasn't, with again everything depending on how much we can rely on Roman standards of beauty and whether it's consistent with Western norms today. Some posthumous mural has her with Red Hair and she was part of a dynasty of Macedonian inbred brother-sister marriages. But on the other hand, there's that report about her sister Arsinoe's tomb having African ancestry. In either case it doesn't matter, because Origins' Cleopatra looks almost exactly like her design from Asterix comics.
The bigger issue for me at least is her accent. In Origins, the developers took the decision to have Egyptians or Egyptian-Greeks talk with an accented English, while Ptolemaics and Romans talk like British, just like the Old Hollywood Ancient Epics. The problem is that one of the few widely known facts about Cleopatra is that she was the only one of her dynasty who learned the native Egyptian language, and indeed knew many languages including Hebrew and others. In the game we see Cleopatra speak in this accented English, when she should ideally sound like Bayek and Aya, or at least less like the other Ptolemaic-Romans. I personally think this could have been done if they used American accents which has more variety and diversity than British accents do, and it's one of those affectations, similar to UNITY's Napoleon the Corsican's English accent sounding like every other Parisien's, that for the sake of entertainment ends up communicating a distorted view.
Then we meet Pompeius Magnus on sea in Aya's first naval mission. This mission has Cleopatra secretly sending Aya as her agent to meet Pompey to get his support before Ptolemy XIII's. There's no record of Cleopatra seeking Pompey's alliance before Caesar. Their paths did cross when Pompey in his Conqueror of the East phase sent the Gabinus and other Roman soldiers to intervene in Egypt thus leading to the Gabiniani (as they ended up being known) settling there and becoming partly Hellenized. But Cleopatra was a small child at that time. Pompey the Great looks like his sculpture but he looks too young, when he was noted for having lost a lot of his good looks at the time of his death. And politically it makes no sense to court Pompey's alliance now, because Pompey post-Pharsalia coming to Egypt was being chased by the guy who kicked his ass. And it was fear of Caesar that led to his death at the orders of Ptolemy XIII and Pothinus.
The next historical mission is Cleopatra's meeting with Caesar ("Blade of the Goddess") which is an extended long mission. This scene makes a number of distortions from the record. We see Bayek and Co. with Cleopatra going to Pompey's side and then finding his decapitated body on the beach, and then deciding to go to Alexandria, where Cleopatra was exiled from, and meet Caesar. The meeting, as in Plutarch, has her wrapped in carpet, but rather than have that meeting in private (hence the whole carpet thing) we have her unfurled in the room with Caesar and Ptolemy XIII. We also see at the start of this cutscene, Caesar being presented Pompey's head and then shrugging it away. This is a huge distortion. Every source and every fictional version shows Caesar being grieved at seeing Pompey, ex-triumvir and ex-son-in-law being executed and especially at the hands of the smelly barbarian Egyptian-Greeks. Caesar like all Romans believed that every Roman citizen, and especially Roman heroes like Pompey, were worth more than any foreigner, king or peasant. And no rivalry towards Pompey would lead him to condone or shrugging away the execution of a Roman general at a foreign ruler's hands. Caesar's appearance has him looking like a John Slattery-type with a full head of white hair, when he was known for being balding and having a receding hairline (his own soldiers at his Triumphal parade called him, with affection, "the bald adulterer"). We have this weird thing about Caesar looking younger than recorded, and Cleopatra looking older, and I think the reasons why is to dial down the whole old-dude young-girl romance, again similar to Ezio and Caterina Sforza in AC2. Caesar's personality and character in ORIGINS is a major disappointment. This is one of the most important men in history, the guy whose calendar design is still in effect, but instead Caesar is shown as some clown, a puppet, and a bore. When Goldsworthy pointed out that when Caesar came to Alexandria, he actually relaxed, started drinking and going on binges with his soldiers, and was actually on vacation mode during his romance with Cleopatra. We also have Caesar having true love for Cleopatra. In real-life, Caesar's will left Cleopatra nothing. She was in Rome as a valued guest during the time of his assassination. Caesar according to Goldsworthy may have been fond of her, but it's more likely he saw her as another conquest. Since a bit later he had an affair with another Princess at Pergamum and a womanizer like him was probably not one to cast his wagon with a military-weak ruler like Ptolemaic-Egypt.
Then we have a very fast-forwarded portrayal of the Siege of Alexandria and the Nile. Aya lights a fire at the Pharos. Then in a repeat of Connor and Paul Revere, we have Bayek and Caesar on chariot. Which again, no way a Roman military commander like Caesar would allow. We also have Caesar mutter "The die is cast" the familiar translation of "Alea jacta est". In actual fact he quoted a Greek phrase from Menander, "anerriphtho kybos" which is actually closer to "Let's roll the dice". The difference in meaning is that "The die is cast" shows Caesar as being decisive and fatalistic, while "Let's roll the dice" shows him cautious, contingent, and improvising. Modern Caesar bios favor the second translation. Then we see Ptolemy XIII die in a cutscene, we see Caesar in a cutscene killing people like Jon Snow (which I feel we should have seen in the main game). We see Pothinus dying in a boss-fight when he was just executed by Caesar. Then in the aftermath, we see Caesar sparing Lucius Septimus, the Gabiniani who killed Khemu. Septimus was a real-life figure and he disappeared from history. The Shaw Play Caesar and Cleopatra showed Caesar pardoning Septimus but there this was shown as an example of Caesar's famous clemency. Here this is shown as Caesar selling out and becoming a Templar, and Cleopatra turning him with her dreams up about matching up to Alexander. All of this are cliches from Mankiewicz's Cleopatra.
The last historical mission and also the end of the game is the big one, the Ides of March, which the game gets wrong on multiple levels. Before we see Brutus and Cassius in Egypt with Bayek and Aya. Neither of them were in Egypt at this time. Both were in Rome, and even then Brutus had a governorship in Gaul for a while. We see Aya plotting out Caesar's assassination and then she sails to Rome. She comes to the Roman Forum and the Theater of Pompey, which was used as a temporary location after the senate house got burnt down during Clodius Pulcher's cremation. So that's true. The Roman Forum of the Republican era is quite different from the ruins in Rome today. That was from Augustus' time and he leveled Republican architecture to create a new more imperial Rome. Also the Roman Forum should be huge and crowded whereas in Origins we see a military encampment. We see Caesar call a meeting at the Senate apparently to be asked to be made King. This is false on multiple levels. The Senate called Caesar. Caesar was planning to go to Parthia to avenge Crassus' death. We also see all the senate attacking Caesar, which is a common mistake, but actually some in the Senate tried to help to Caesar but couldn't get through. Others were panicked, such as Cicero. Others were afraid I guess. Brutus before he stabs Caesar says they want "land for the people". "Land for the People" was Caesar's policy which Brutus and his entire faction, optimates, opposed. Then Aya, disguised as a senator (which all things considered is the least ridiculous part), stabs Caesar, and then in post-cutscene she goes to Cleopatra. We see her with Caesarion who looks too old...he should be 3 years old. Aya says, "the people call you dead tyrant's whore" but Caesar was popular and beloved by the Roman people. He wasn't seen by them as tyrannical. Quite the opposite. And nobody called Cleopatra anything until decades later with Mark Antony. Then the campaign ends.
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
- ORIGINS has a major problem at its core. Namely that Bayek of Siwa's personal quest as a grief-stricken father which is indeed touching, well-written, well-acted and well-animated, doesn't fully fit the larger story of Cleopatra's reign and downfall, the death of Caesar, and the establishment of the Proto-Assassin Cult. That actually fits Aya's story better. Aya is the one who gets the missions doing the historical stuff and she gets to kill Caesar (on which more later) but it's obvious that Bayek is the main central character since he gets the side-missions and as a native Egyptian Medjay, and a practicing polytheist he's the one who better immerses us in the open world.
- This problem in the narrative's plot is peculiarly a result of the game's historical accuracy in showing the segregation of Ptolemaic Egypt. Ptolemaic Egypt, especially in Cleopatra's reign, is often romanticized as a time of cultural hybridity, where Greek culture synthesized with Ancient Egyptian culture. A lot of this comes from Ptolemaic propaganda, and the game's cutscenes often show and state this. What with Aya being part-Greek, and her marriage with Bayek as well as the Greek-Egyptian couple of Hotephres-Khenut in Faiyum Oasis. The reality is that the Ptolemaic era was quite segregated which indeed led some historians to, controversially, describe this era not as multi-culturalism but as an earlier form of apartheid where Greeks held all important positions in government, civic administration, military and cultural power, while Native Egyptians were never promoted to real positions of power and were left alone rather than oppressed and enslaved. There were separate law codes for Greeks and Egyptians and so on. Order was maintained in Egypt over a small minority thanks to foreign powers like the Persians, the Greeks, and then the Romans, patronizing, suborning, and supporting the Egyptian priestly caste, who encouraged the population to turn to religion and away from society. We see this in Origins with Bayek's religious devotion to the Egyptian pantheon which creates a subtle tension in his marriage to Aya who is Part-Greek and has a more skeptical and cynical attitude to religion. That scene where they talk at Alexander's tomb and offer contrasting opinions on that formidable asshole is quite insightful. Within the game, Bayek has no curiosity over any other faith or set of gods other than that of Egypt, which does illustrate and correct the common idea that all pre-christian polytheism was syncretic and inclusionary, when in fact that syncretism was exclusive to Roman society. Bayek's religious quest brings him in conflict with a few bad priests but it never has him interrogate the entire system which kept Egypt down, and the political turn in Bayek's quest never really works as compared to his own internal story.
- In terms of historical recreation, the most important city in the game is Alexandria. The Alexandria of this game is extremely small compared to the real thing. The real Alexandria was divided into five quarters based on the first five letters of the Greek Alphabet: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon. It was a city organized on a grid. And the city had a huge population for the ancient world, more than 500,000 in Cleopatra's reign at a conservative estimate, a more generous one suggests a million and it certainly did see that in the later Roman era. There should be as many NPCs here as we saw in UNITY, instead we see a city that resembles the Medieval-Renaissance sandboxes of the Altair-Ezio games, or for that matter the Colonial settlements from the New World games. One of the reasons why Alexandria, and Rome (which had a population of a million in the same time) fascinated people for so long, was that it would take more than a millennium for European cities of that scale to rise. That was as much a real reason for the grandeur and myth that was attached to it as was the famous monuments, the Library, and the Lighthouse. Alexandria also hosted at this time the largest Jewish community outside Judea, and 2 out of 5 quarters had Jewish majorities. There were synagogues across the entire city. Yet within this game we have one Synagogue and some Hebrew-speaking NPCs with no Jewish characters in the main game, the side-stories or even mentioned in the Discovery Tour. Alexandrian Jews were major supporters and backers of Caesar when he took the city and settled in, and given the early bad reception he and Romans got (the mob pelted them according to Goldsworthy), they were obviously a swing vote group. Caesar who was popular with Jewish settlers in Rome, actually passed laws in their favour. In other words, Jews were essential and key parts of this story, and yet once again Ubisoft neglects them from a period in which they were central to. Alexandrian Jews under the Ptolemies translated the Tanakh from Hebrew into Greek, known today as the Septuagint, and many of them contributed to what we now call Gnosticism. Origins denied us a chance to glimpse Jewish life before their exile, diaspora, and persecution. Which is one of the main reasons why an Ancient World setting is so fascinating and important to us even today.
- ORIGINS gets Alexandria wrong, and if it got Alexandria wrong, I am wondering why they chose Ptolemaic Egypt rather than an earlier period. As many historians point out Cleopatra's era is closer to us today than she is to the period of the Great Pyramids. Bayek's main religious quest and interests as a Medjay has nothing real attached to Cleopatra's reign both in terms of history, and in his own personal story quest, since Cleopatra's story is tied to his wife Aya, who very definitely doesn't share his religious inclinations (which again makes me wonder why they married). Ideally Bayek's religious devotion to the traditional gods and his general conservatism would make him suited to the reign of Akhenaten, and indeed the Curse of the Pharaohs DLC where he hunts down ghosts and phantoms of Akhenaten's court, including his wife Nefertiti and his son Tutankhamun, obviously embellished with fantasy hijinks and so on, actually gives him a more interesting character dynamic as someone who opposes the legacy of "the heretic" who tried to reverse Egypt's gods. Doing a religious conflict with entirely ancient and dead faiths (as opposed to the ones which still alive) would have been a more original story. Most of Origins' sandbox and gameplay is tied to the deserts, the small settlements, the pyramids, the tombs, but the plot is entirely confined to palace politics to which Bayek has no affection, for either the cities or its rulers. Fundamentally, Ptolemaic Cleopatra is not Ancient Egypt and its portrayal of Cleopatra as mentioned above is inaccurate and cliched, and sentimental. The lack of diversity and accuracy of detail in Alexandria makes it a failure of historical representation. The only reason it seems to be here is because AC wanted a familiar and overexposed and so easily retold story about Caesar and Cleopatra with a handy set of cliches to regurgitate. AC's in-house historian Maxime Durand in this interview with Bob Whitaker confessed that they wanted to do Republican Rome along with parts of Greece and Egypt. Which would be fine if it actually got something right about Roman politics, but as mentioned above it didn't. But more later.
- Following Ubisoft's 30-second rule, I checked up Siwa Oasis on wikipedia. Do you know what takes about six seconds to find? This paragraph on Siwa's native homosexual tolerance. Siwa Oasis according to historians and anthropologists has a documented tradition of welcoming, tolerating, and celebrating homosexual unions between men in the Islamic era which continued until the middle of the 20th Century when Nasser came to power. Some historians and anthropologists believe that this tradition could date back to antiquity, and represents a holdover or carryover from the Polytheistic era to the Christian and Islamic eras. Instead, we get no mention of this, no acknowledgement or hint of this anywhere. Not in Discovery Tour, not in side missions, and not the main quest. There is no mention of homosexuality within any of the main games, and instead there is this utterly sleazy easter egg. Bayek's relations within Siwa are all with women, Hepzefa, Aya, Kensa with no hint of him being gay or experimenting. I suppose Ubisoft thinks, based on Odyssey and its Three Hundred digital cosplay, that the only boy-lovers were in Athens and not in any part of the East, or so on. This information is even there in Travel Guides to Egypt, leave alone academic works (see sources below).
- Likewise, not dealing with slavery in the Renaissance is bad enough, but not dealing or acknowledging its reality in the Ancient World is a new level of denial because virtually every fictional depiction of the ancient world deals with slavery. Now obviously many Egyptologists and native Egyptians get upset with "the slaves built the pyramids thing" and so on (which isn't entirely debunked but certainly qualified better now), and Egyptians seem to have favored freedmen more than Greece and Rome, but there was definitely slavery from the time the Macedonians and Ptolemaics arrived. Aya and Bayek talk a lot about freedom and I wonder why they don't deal with slavery.
- The most interesting thing in Origins is the attitude to children. Historically, Rome and Greece practised infanticide, where deformed children or a kid that seemed weak would be dumped out, literally in garbage, which happened in the classical era of both civilizations. Children were also exposed to the elements, and exposed children were sold into slavery. According to Pomeroy and other historians, this practice was less common in Egypt of the same time. Infanticide wasn't practised as much, and exposed children were often picked up and nurtured and adopted as compared to Rome and Greece, where strangers would let them die. In Origins, we see Greek and Roman characters more callous about hurting and killing children, whether it's the Templar who kills Bayek's son, or the Greek woman Berenike who drowns Khadja or Cleopatra ordering the death of her annoying kid brother. So in Bayek's attitude and nurturing feeling towards children, both his son, and others, we actually see a good accurate impression of Egypt's great positive virtue which is worthy of praise and admiration. Origins has us see many children in the side missions and the main story, and it's rare to see an open-world game deal with that, leave alone something as violent and bloody as Origins.
- The title of Origins has gotten a lot of chuckles from AC fans. The AC Lore has Proto-Assassins to the time of Ancient Greece. The game Odyssey announced a few months after launch only made it even more ridiculous. Ptolemaic Egypt in the time of Cleopatra isn't an origin so much as a curtain call, a finale, and a farewell. But there is in on respect the title is apt, namely in that it shows us the original political assassination, the model for many copycats and repeats**.** This brings me to my final point. what is after all the fundamental element of Assassin's Creed, the fact that these games and its narratives repeatedly justifies and glorifies murder, especially when the victims are heads of state, guilty, and tyrants, which is absurd because as I showed in my commentary on earlier games, the Assassins more often than not serve some tyrants and attack others. But no story brings those issues as well as that of Julius Caesar's.
- The self-proclaimed Liberatores, Brutus and Cassius, who are numbered among the Assassins, weren't by any means good guys. Brutus, as per fellow conservative Cicero, a corrupt loan shark who sent goons to beat up the poor to get back his money. He and the Liberatores claimed to be restoring the Republic, but in practice they were acting like every other optimate faction who had murdered popular reformers from the time of the Gracchi. During his civil war with the 2nd Triumvirate, Brutus minted coins showing his face on it, which was illegal and against the norms, and following in the same vein as Pompey and Caesar. In other words, according to the historical view by Mary Beard and Adrian Goldsworthy, there is good reason to think Brutus would have been another warlord or dictator had he not lost and gotten "martyred" for liberty. And this is the kind of figure, AC has hitched to their wagon. Historically every good treatment of Caesar's assassination that I know presents this as a tragic act, steeped in horror at the violence, the betrayal by Caesar's closest friends, the act of murder happening in a hall of government. The fact that the assassination unleashed a spiral of civil war and led to the Empire. Origins treats this as a tale of good senators versus evil Caesar and presents it as unambiguously heroic. This action which inspired John Wilkes Booth to attack Lincoln thinking he was Brutus, as well as many other figures who justified other "propaganda of the deed" and which provided the model for Gavrilo Princip attacking the Archduke is reduced to a level below childish, because even small kids exposed to the Caesar story at a small age know that it's not to be celebrated. The failure to reckon with the gravity and ambiguity of this crime, the lack of reflection at the horror of their culpability in the fallout, is a major failure of this game, and ultimately it proves that Origins should not have been set in this Ptolemaic-Roman period since to the extent that the game deals with it, it fails.
CONCLUSION
- Let me say that I like Origins and I like Bayek. The Egypt of this game is unlike any other open-world setting and it looks amazing. The game shows the pyramids as they are now believed to have been, decorated, shiny, clean with caps at the top. This is probably the most accurate re-creation of the Ancient Pyramids than any pop-culture version of Egypt. The maps, the White Desert, the Black Desert and so on are amazing. I like getting heat-stroke by being in the desert and so on. The main redeeming virtue is its positive portrayal of Egyptian polytheism and sympathetic look at "pagan" worship since too often it's demonized in Christian works, and deprecated in secular works as either "atheists-but-not-in-name" or "not-truly-important". Egyptian pantheon in particular is often demonized as a source of Mummy curses as compared to Greek/Roman/Norse mythology so Origins contributed positively by offering a counter-view. That's leaving aside the moment when they cast white actors to play gods that is. I have no idea how accurate it is to Egyptian beliefs but Origins certainly gave me more insight into it than any other mainstream work.
The combat is obviously imported from Dark Souls, but it's still fitting because it feels like a sword-and-sandal peplum thing even if the combat tactics and maneuvers are very Hollywood. However, I will say that the main story at least the historical part is a huge letdown, it doesn't connect to Bayek's story, which given that he belongs to an older period of Egypt, the game should have been set in the time when that culture was still alive and not subjugated by foreigners. AC like many Western game companies have a hard time getting shareholders and marketers interested in real non-western settings, so whether it's AC1 and its choice on the minor Masyaf Assassins of the Third Crusade with its Western tenor rather than the Iranian Assassins of Alamut and its non-Western tenor, AC3's choice to make its story of a Mohawk revolve mainly on his white dad and his relations with white society; and Origins' decision to do a story and setting steeped in Ancient Lore in a time and place where the power is in the hands of European invaders, there's a timidity that prevents Ubisoft from taking the next step. The European games are likewise hampered by its obvious uncritical Eurocentrism and its refusal to engage with it outside the touristy EU propaganda stuff. Of the lot the New World games are the most interesting but even then not entirely successful. Every game, at its best and worst, shows some amount of compromise and timidity.
For all the credit it gets for shining a light on the unexpected and obscure, there's a hesitancy towards following through on the multi-culturalism that it announces on its disclaimer. The main attitude is reminiscent of Samuel Goldwyn's famous maxim, "let's invent some new cliches" or replace some cliches with new ones. There's a tendency towards touristy recreation and architecture over political and social development, older sources over newer ones.
SOURCES
  1. Alexandria, City of the Western Mind. Theodore Vrettos. 2001. The Free Press, division of Simon and Schuster.- City divided into Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon districts as per the Greek Alphabet, Pg. 4- Jewish Quarter as large as the Greeks. Synagogues spread across the city. Two of five city quarters were inhabited by Jews.- Caesar's Will made no mention of Cleopatra.
  2. Egypt, Greece and Rome - Civilization in the Ancient Mediterranean. Charles Freeman. Oxford University Press. 1999. Second Edition.- Augustus' propaganda against Antony, pg. 442-443.
  3. A History of Ancient Egypt. Nicolas Grimal. Blackwell. 1999- Egyptians turned to religion, away from politics under the Persian, Hellenic and Roman eras. Pg. 367-368.
  4. The Story of Egypt. Joann Fletcher. 2016. Pegasus Books.- Alexander's visit to the Oracle of Zeus-Ammon at Siwa oasis. 307-308.- Cleopatra's support from priests. 352-355.- Cleopatra's sister Arsinoe paraded in triumph. 367-358.- Caesar's Calendar. 358-359.
  5. SPQR. Mary Beard. 2015. W.W. Norton.- Population of Rome was 1 million inhabitants in the First Century BCE. Pg. 33- Caesar's distasteful triumph. Pg. 290-291- Caesar introducing the Calendar after consulting Egyptian astronomers. Pg. 292- Mercenary motives of Caesar's assassins, who printed coins in their likeness. Pg. 294-296.
  6. Cleopatra: A Life. Stacy Schiff. 2010. Little Brown and Company.- Population of Alexandria. High estimate is 3-6million, middle is 1 million, Low Estimate:500,000.
  7. Adrian Goldsworthy, Caesar: Life of a Colossus. Yale University Press. 2006.- Caesar's arrival greeted by fears, Alexandrine mob pelted his troops. 433- Alexandrian Jews backed Caesar. 443-443- Caesar's time in Alexandria. More relaxed, looser, started drinking and went on binges. Taking a vacation with Cleopatra after his time of non-stop campaigning since crossing the Rubicon. 444-446.- Caesar's triumph, Arsinoe invoked pity. 468-469.- Caesar became so confident of his safety, that he dismissed his bodyguard of loyal Spanish soldiers. During his assassination, some Senators tried to reach Caesar to help him but couldn't get through or were afraid of being killed. The Roman Forum is crowded, the people rally in grief at Caesar's death, and Caesar gets a popular funeral. 505-510.
  8. Adrian Goldsworthy. Antony and Cleopatra. Yale University Press. 2010. "Introduction"- summarizing thesis the marginal role Cleopatra in fact had. "The Two Lands", describing segregation in Ptolemaic Egypt.
  9. Encyclopaedia of Homosexuality, Vol. 2. edited by Wayne R. Dynes. Routledge. March 2016. https://books.google.com/books?id=g7TOCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT448&dq=Siwa+homosexuality&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitiMLqhMHdAhUPO60KHQOHCDwQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=Siwa%20homosexuality&f=false (Homosexuality in Ancient Siwa).
  10. Egypt. Dan Richardson. Rough Guides. Travel. 2003https://books.google.com/books?id=uL86PAq-eHMC&pg=PA562&dq=Siwa+homosexuality&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitiMLqhMHdAhUPO60KHQOHCDwQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=Siwa%20homosexuality&f=false
  11. The Many Faces of Homosexuality: Anthropological Approaches to Homosexual Behavior. Evelyn Blackwood. Routledge. 2013.
  12. Hellenistic Constructs: Essays in Culture, History, and Historiography. edited by A G Leventis et al.University of California Press, 1997. https://books.google.com/books?id=LNCv7A05JWoC&pg=PA5&dq=Ptolemaic+apartheid&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxj928hsHdAhUJVa0KHbxrC9MQ6AEILzAB#v=onepage&q=Ptolemaic%20apartheid&f=false(Apartheid rather than multiculturalism)
  13. Goddesses, Whores, Wives, and Slaves: Women in Classical Antiquity. Sarah Pomeroy. Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, May 18, 2011. Infanticide and Exposure of Children in Rome/Greece/Egypt.
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2018.09.18 05:02 VestigialLlama4 Assassin's Creed: Origins [49 - 44 BCE] - Historical Inaccuracies and Fact-Checking the Series

I started this series with UNITY, then went to AC1, AC2, Brotherhood, Revelations, AC3, Rogue. Black Flag. Syndicate. Now we're all caught up with Origins. The tenth major release of Assassin's Creed, and released in 2017, the ten year anniversary of the franchise. As a game, ORIGINS presents a lot of challenges. One is this game is set in the Antiquity, the first AC game to go way back to the Pre-Crusades era. Then there is the size of ORIGINS, which is incredibly big, a recreation of a big swathe of Cleopatra' Egypt. There is also the volume of game content here on offer which is extensive and daunting. Ubisoft released the excellent Discovery Tour which substitutes for their database and maps out events and stuff on to terrain in an unique way. The game consulted a lot of Egyptologists for its recreation of the pyramids and managed to get ahead of a real-life archaeological discovery based on the theories of one of their consultants. The game has a huge number of side-quests and missions but most of them are errands of one kind or another, grounded however with a thematic unity with the main game's story. This makes them consistent and feel substantial but also repetitive and there's rarely an exploration of the world in a larger scope. As such I am mainly going to talk about the main campaign from beginning to end, while discussing side missions only in part.
Setting: Ptolemaic Egypt in the reign of Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator overlapping with the final leg of Caesar's Civil War and his dictatorship.
MAIN CAMPAIGN
Bayek is a Medjay, an ancient office in the Pharaonic age. Bayek blames the Ptolemies for the end of the Medjay but in fact it collapsed before Egypt's first foreign occupation by the Persians, who preceded Alexander. As such, Bayek's story has more fiction than history but we still have historical figures among the Proto-Templars, Lucius Septimus, the real-life Gabiniani Roman who killed Pompey Magnus, and Pothinus, the Royal Eunuch who was main henchman and minder of Ptolemy XIII. Among the Proto-Assassins, we have Pasherienptah III, an obscure priest of Memphis who is fictionalized here, and of course we have Marcus Junius Brutus, and Cassius among Aya's Roman recruits who show up at the end of the game. Other historical figures we see are: Ptolemy XIII, Cleopatra VII, Julius Caesar, Pompey Magnus, Apollodorous the Sicilian, Marcus Vitruvius.
The main story of Origins is entirely about Bayek's religious quest to ensure that his son Khemu finds peace in the afterlife, the Field of Reeds, that his death as a result of the Proto-Templars is avenged. His son's name, as is clear in the last Siwa Quest ("Bayek's Promise") is based on Kemet, the Hieroglyphic word the natives used to call their land, as opposed to Egypt, the Greek word based on a transliteration of the Temple of Ptah in Memphis. There's a joke waiting to be written about how we use the Greek Word for Egypt (Kemet) and the Latin word for Greece (Hellas). Most of Origins because of its religious and spiritual dimension for Bayek, and his personal grief, so we see repeatedly Bayek doing missions for Temple Priests, fighting corrupt priests and so on. Bayek's religious devotion, as an Egyptian polytheist, also brings him in conflict with Aya, his half-Greek wife who is way more keyed into the political side of stuff, and who is more like a traditional Assassin protagonist for better and worse. And Aya is the one who gets Bayek involved in the Civil War between Ptolemy XIII and Cleopatra VII, backing the latter and helping her come to power. Of these characters, very little is known about Apollodorous, Lucius Septimus and so on. So the game's take on them has the artistic license it needs.
The historical plot begins when Bayek comes to Alexandria, and meets Cleopatra in the mission "Egypt's Medjay". Cleopatra is one of the most speculated among historical figures because even if she comes from a period from which we have a lot of written sources (the First Century BCE), nearly everything that we know of her comes decades later, and much of it comes from the propaganda put forth by Augustus in his Civil War against Antony. That propaganda depending on how you see it either demonized her, or exaggerated her as more important than she likely deserved to be. In any case, recent biographers note that she was pretty young when she contested her Brother-Husband Ptolemy XIII to rule as Pharoah. The game's Cleopatra is not as young as she was, which was around 18-19 at the time she began her famous visit to the South to gain support from Egypt's traditional elite. She is also shown as this slutty vamp who comes on to Bayek and wears seductive dresses and so on, and is basically some Ptolemaic Lindsay Lohan. In actual fact, biographers like Stacy Schiff and Adrian Goldsworthy argue that it's highly likely she was a virgin when she met Caesar, and that it was Caesar who deflowered her. So this Cleopatra is more or less a redux of Caterina Sforza from AC2 in all matters. The game also follows recent tradition in focusing on Ptolemy XIII as her only rival. In actual fact the Alexandrine Civil War was a four-sided civil war with Cleopatra fighting Ptolemy XIII, another brother called Ptolemy, and her sister Arsinoe (sent to Rome as part of Caesar's triumph, but who the Roman mob so pitied that Caesar spared her and then had her live as a hostage. After his death, years later Antony executed her, likely on Cleopatra's orders). Cleopatra's appearance has an entire cottage industry dedicated to how beautiful she was or wasn't, with again everything depending on how much we can rely on Roman standards of beauty and whether it's consistent with Western norms today. Some posthumous mural has her with Red Hair and she was part of a dynasty of Macedonian inbred brother-sister marriages. But on the other hand, there's that report about her sister Arsinoe's tomb having African ancestry. In either case it doesn't matter, because Origins' Cleopatra looks almost exactly like her design from Asterix comics.
The bigger issue for me at least is her accent. In Origins, the developers took the decision to have Egyptians or Egyptian-Greeks talk with an accented English, while Ptolemaics and Romans talk like British, just like the Old Hollywood Ancient Epics. The problem is that one of the few widely known facts about Cleopatra is that she was the only one of her dynasty who learned the native Egyptian language, and indeed knew many languages including Hebrew and others. In the game we see Cleopatra speak in this accented English, when she should ideally sound like Bayek and Aya, or at least less like the other Ptolemaic-Romans. I personally think this could have been done if they used American accents which has more variety and diversity than British accents do, and it's one of those affectations, similar to UNITY's Napoleon the Corsican's English accent sounding like every other Parisien's, that for the sake of entertainment ends up communicating a distorted view.
Then we meet Pompeius Magnus on sea in Aya's first naval mission. This mission has Cleopatra secretly sending Aya as her agent to meet Pompey to get his support before Ptolemy XIII's. There's no record of Cleopatra seeking Pompey's alliance before Caesar. Their paths did cross when Pompey in his Conqueror of the East phase sent the Gabinus and other Roman soldiers to intervene in Egypt thus leading to the Gabiniani (as they ended up being known) settling there and becoming partly Hellenized. But Cleopatra was a small child at that time. Pompey the Great looks like his sculpture but he looks too young, when he was noted for having lost a lot of his good looks at the time of his death. And politically it makes no sense to court Pompey's alliance now, because Pompey post-Pharsalia coming to Egypt was being chased by the guy who kicked his ass. And it was fear of Caesar that led to his death at the orders of Ptolemy XIII and Pothinus.
The next historical mission is Cleopatra's meeting with Caesar ("Blade of the Goddess") which is an extended long mission. This scene makes a number of distortions from the record. We see Bayek and Co. with Cleopatra going to Pompey's side and then finding his decapitated body on the beach, and then deciding to go to Alexandria, where Cleopatra was exiled from, and meet Caesar. The meeting, as in Plutarch, has her wrapped in carpet, but rather than have that meeting in private (hence the whole carpet thing) we have her unfurled in the room with Caesar and Ptolemy XIII. We also see at the start of this cutscene, Caesar being presented Pompey's head and then shrugging it away. This is a huge distortion. Every source and every fictional version shows Caesar being grieved at seeing Pompey, ex-triumvir and ex-son-in-law being executed and especially at the hands of the smelly barbarian Egyptian-Greeks. Caesar like all Romans believed that every Roman citizen, and especially Roman heroes like Pompey, were worth more than any foreigner, king or peasant. And no rivalry towards Pompey would lead him to condone or shrugging away the execution of a Roman general at a foreign ruler's hands. Caesar's appearance has him looking like a John Slattery-type with a full head of white hair, when he was known for being balding and having a receding hairline (his own soldiers at his Triumphal parade called him, with affection, "the bald adulterer"). We have this weird thing about Caesar looking younger than recorded, and Cleopatra looking older, and I think the reasons why is to dial down the whole old-dude young-girl romance, again similar to Ezio and Caterina Sforza in AC2. Caesar's personality and character in ORIGINS is a major disappointment. This is one of the most important men in history, the guy whose calendar design is still in effect, but instead Caesar is shown as some clown, a puppet, and a bore. When Goldsworthy pointed out that when Caesar came to Alexandria, he actually relaxed, started drinking and going on binges with his soldiers, and was actually on vacation mode during his romance with Cleopatra. We also have Caesar having true love for Cleopatra. In real-life, Caesar's will left Cleopatra nothing. She was in Rome as a valued guest during the time of his assassination. Caesar according to Goldsworthy may have been fond of her, but it's more likely he saw her as another conquest. Since a bit later he had an affair with another Princess at Pergamum and a womanizer like him was probably not one to cast his wagon with a military-weak ruler like Ptolemaic-Egypt.
Then we have a very fast-forwarded portrayal of the Siege of Alexandria and the Nile. Aya lights a fire at the Pharos. Then in a repeat of Connor and Paul Revere, we have Bayek and Caesar on chariot. Which again, no way a Roman military commander like Caesar would allow. We also have Caesar mutter "The die is cast" the familiar translation of "Alea jacta est". In actual fact he quoted a Greek phrase from Menander, "anerriphtho kybos" which is actually closer to "Let's roll the dice". The difference in meaning is that "The die is cast" shows Caesar as being decisive and fatalistic, while "Let's roll the dice" shows him cautious, contingent, and improvising. Modern Caesar bios favor the second translation. Then we see Ptolemy XIII die in a cutscene, we see Caesar in a cutscene killing people like Jon Snow (which I feel we should have seen in the main game). We see Pothinus dying in a boss-fight when he was just executed by Caesar. Then in the aftermath, we see Caesar sparing Lucius Septimus, the Gabiniani who killed Khemu. Septimus was a real-life figure and he disappeared from history. The Shaw Play Caesar and Cleopatra showed Caesar pardoning Septimus but there this was shown as an example of Caesar's famous clemency. Here this is shown as Caesar selling out and becoming a Templar, and Cleopatra turning him with her dreams up about matching up to Alexander. All of this are cliches from Mankiewicz's Cleopatra.
The last historical mission and also the end of the game is the big one, the Ides of March, which the game gets wrong on multiple levels. Before we see Brutus and Cassius in Egypt with Bayek and Aya. Neither of them were in Egypt at this time. Both were in Rome, and even then Brutus had a governorship in Gaul for a while. We see Aya plotting out Caesar's assassination and then she sails to Rome. She comes to the Roman Forum and the Theater of Pompey, which was used as a temporary location after the senate house got burnt down during Clodius Pulcher's cremation. So that's true. The Roman Forum of the Republican era is quite different from the ruins in Rome today. That was from Augustus' time and he leveled Republican architecture to create a new more imperial Rome. Also the Roman Forum should be huge and crowded whereas in Origins we see a military encampment. We see Caesar call a meeting at the Senate apparently to be asked to be made King. This is false on multiple levels. The Senate called Caesar. Caesar was planning to go to Parthia to avenge Crassus' death. We also see all the senate attacking Caesar, which is a common mistake, but actually some in the Senate tried to help to Caesar but couldn't get through. Others were panicked, such as Cicero. Others were afraid I guess. Brutus before he stabs Caesar says they want "land for the people". "Land for the People" was Caesar's policy which Brutus and his entire faction, optimates, opposed. Then Aya, disguised as a senator (which all things considered is the least ridiculous part), stabs Caesar, and then in post-cutscene she goes to Cleopatra. We see her with Caesarion who looks too old...he should be 3 years old. Aya says, "the people call you dead tyrant's whore" but Caesar was popular and beloved by the Roman people. He wasn't seen by them as tyrannical. Quite the opposite. And nobody called Cleopatra anything until decades later with Mark Antony. Then the campaign ends.
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
- ORIGINS has a major problem at its core. Namely that Bayek of Siwa's personal quest as a grief-stricken father which is indeed touching, well-written, well-acted and well-animated, doesn't fully fit the larger story of Cleopatra's reign and downfall, the death of Caesar, and the establishment of the Proto-Assassin Cult. That actually fits Aya's story better. Aya is the one who gets the missions doing the historical stuff and she gets to kill Caesar (on which more later) but it's obvious that Bayek is the main central character since he gets the side-missions and as a native Egyptian Medjay, and a practicing polytheist he's the one who better immerses us in the open world.
- This problem in the narrative's plot is peculiarly a result of the game's historical accuracy in showing the segregation of Ptolemaic Egypt. Ptolemaic Egypt, especially in Cleopatra's reign, is often romanticized as a time of cultural hybridity, where Greek culture synthesized with Ancient Egyptian culture. A lot of this comes from Ptolemaic propaganda, and the game's cutscenes often show and state this. What with Aya being part-Greek, and her marriage with Bayek as well as the Greek-Egyptian couple of Hotephres-Khenut in Faiyum Oasis. The reality is that the Ptolemaic era was quite segregated which indeed led some historians to, controversially, describe this era not as multi-culturalism but as an earlier form of apartheid where Greeks held all important positions in government, civic administration, military and cultural power, while Native Egyptians were never promoted to real positions of power and were left alone rather than oppressed and enslaved. There were separate law codes for Greeks and Egyptians and so on. Order was maintained in Egypt over a small minority thanks to foreign powers like the Persians, the Greeks, and then the Romans, patronizing, suborning, and supporting the Egyptian priestly caste, who encouraged the population to turn to religion and away from society. We see this in Origins with Bayek's religious devotion to the Egyptian pantheon which creates a subtle tension in his marriage to Aya who is Part-Greek and has a more skeptical and cynical attitude to religion. That scene where they talk at Alexander's tomb and offer contrasting opinions on that formidable asshole is quite insightful. Within the game, Bayek has no curiosity over any other faith or set of gods other than that of Egypt, which does illustrate and correct the common idea that all pre-christian polytheism was syncretic and inclusionary, when in fact that syncretism was exclusive to Roman society. Bayek's religious quest brings him in conflict with a few bad priests but it never has him interrogate the entire system which kept Egypt down, and the political turn in Bayek's quest never really works as compared to his own internal story.
- In terms of historical recreation, the most important city in the game is Alexandria. The Alexandria of this game is extremely small compared to the real thing. The real Alexandria was divided into five quarters based on the first five letters of the Greek Alphabet: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon. It was a city organized on a grid. And the city had a huge population for the ancient world, more than 500,000 in Cleopatra's reign at a conservative estimate, a more generous one suggests a million and it certainly did see that in the later Roman era. There should be as many NPCs here as we saw in UNITY, instead we see a city that resembles the Medieval-Renaissance sandboxes of the Altair-Ezio games, or for that matter the Colonial settlements from the New World games. One of the reasons why Alexandria, and Rome (which had a population of a million in the same time) fascinated people for so long, was that it would take more than a millennium for European cities of that scale to rise. That was as much a real reason for the grandeur and myth that was attached to it as was the famous monuments, the Library, and the Lighthouse. Alexandria also hosted at this time the largest Jewish community outside Judea, and 2 out of 5 quarters had Jewish majorities. There were synagogues across the entire city. Yet within this game we have one Synagogue and some Hebrew-speaking NPCs with no Jewish characters in the main game, the side-stories or even mentioned in the Discovery Tour. Alexandrian Jews were major supporters and backers of Caesar when he took the city and settled in, and given the early bad reception he and Romans got (the mob pelted them according to Goldsworthy), they were obviously a swing vote group. Caesar who was popular with Jewish settlers in Rome, actually passed laws in their favour. In other words, Jews were essential and key parts of this story, and yet once again Ubisoft neglects them from a period in which they were central to. Alexandrian Jews under the Ptolemies translated the Tanakh from Hebrew into Greek, known today as the Septuagint, and many of them contributed to what we now call Gnosticism. Origins denied us a chance to glimpse Jewish life before their exile, diaspora, and persecution. Which is one of the main reasons why an Ancient World setting is so fascinating and important to us even today.
- ORIGINS gets Alexandria wrong, and if it got Alexandria wrong, I am wondering why they chose Ptolemaic Egypt rather than an earlier period. As many historians point out Cleopatra's era is closer to us today than she is to the period of the Great Pyramids. Bayek's main religious quest and interests as a Medjay has nothing real attached to Cleopatra's reign both in terms of history, and in his own personal story quest, since Cleopatra's story is tied to his wife Aya, who very definitely doesn't share his religious inclinations (which again makes me wonder why they married). Ideally Bayek's religious devotion to the traditional gods and his general conservatism would make him suited to the reign of Akhenaten, and indeed the Curse of the Pharaohs DLC where he hunts down ghosts and phantoms of Akhenaten's court, including his wife Nefertiti and his son Tutankhamun, obviously embellished with fantasy hijinks and so on, actually gives him a more interesting character dynamic as someone who opposes the legacy of "the heretic" who tried to reverse Egypt's gods. Doing a religious conflict with entirely ancient and dead faiths (as opposed to the ones which still alive) would have been a more original story. Most of Origins' sandbox and gameplay is tied to the deserts, the small settlements, the pyramids, the tombs, but the plot is entirely confined to palace politics to which Bayek has no affection, for either the cities or its rulers. Fundamentally, Ptolemaic Cleopatra is not Ancient Egypt and its portrayal of Cleopatra as mentioned above is inaccurate and cliched, and sentimental. The lack of diversity and accuracy of detail in Alexandria makes it a failure of historical representation. The only reason it seems to be here is because AC wanted a familiar and overexposed and so easily retold story about Caesar and Cleopatra with a handy set of cliches to regurgitate. AC's in-house historian Maxime Durand in this interview with Bob Whitaker confessed that they wanted to do Republican Rome along with parts of Greece and Egypt. Which would be fine if it actually got something right about Roman politics, but as mentioned above it didn't. But more later.
- Following Ubisoft's 30-second rule, I checked up Siwa Oasis on wikipedia. Do you know what takes about six seconds to find? This paragraph on Siwa's native homosexual tolerance. Siwa Oasis according to historians and anthropologists has a documented tradition of welcoming, tolerating, and celebrating homosexual unions between men in the Islamic era which continued until the middle of the 20th Century when Nasser came to power. Some historians and anthropologists believe that this tradition could date back to antiquity, and represents a holdover or carryover from the Polytheistic era to the Christian and Islamic eras. Instead, we get no mention of this, no acknowledgement or hint of this anywhere. Not in Discovery Tour, not in side missions, and not the main quest. There is no mention of homosexuality within any of the main games, and instead there is this utterly sleazy easter egg. Bayek's relations within Siwa are all with women, Hepzefa, Aya, Kensa with no hint of him being gay or experimenting. I suppose Ubisoft thinks, based on Odyssey and its Three Hundred digital cosplay, that the only boy-lovers were in Athens and not in any part of the East, or so on. This information is even there in Travel Guides to Egypt, leave alone academic works (see sources below).
- Likewise, not dealing with slavery in the Renaissance is bad enough, but not dealing or acknowledging its reality in the Ancient World is a new level of denial because virtually every fictional depiction of the ancient world deals with slavery. Now obviously many Egyptologists and native Egyptians get upset with "the slaves built the pyramids thing" and so on (which isn't entirely debunked but certainly qualified better now), and Egyptians seem to have favored freedmen more than Greece and Rome, but there was definitely slavery from the time the Macedonians and Ptolemaics arrived. Aya and Bayek talk a lot about freedom and I wonder why they don't deal with slavery.
- The most interesting thing in Origins is the attitude to children. Historically, Rome and Greece practised infanticide, where deformed children or a kid that seemed weak would be dumped out, literally in garbage, which happened in the classical era of both civilizations. Children were also exposed to the elements, and exposed children were sold into slavery. According to Pomeroy and other historians, this practice was less common in Egypt of the same time. Infanticide wasn't practised as much, and exposed children were often picked up and nurtured and adopted as compared to Rome and Greece, where strangers would let them die. In Origins, we see Greek and Roman characters more callous about hurting and killing children, whether it's the Templar who kills Bayek's son, or the Greek woman Berenike who drowns Khadja or Cleopatra ordering the death of her annoying kid brother. So in Bayek's attitude and nurturing feeling towards children, both his son, and others, we actually see a good accurate impression of Egypt's great positive virtue which is worthy of praise and admiration. Origins has us see many children in the side missions and the main story, and it's rare to see an open-world game deal with that, leave alone something as violent and bloody as Origins.
- The title of Origins has gotten a lot of chuckles from AC fans. The AC Lore has Proto-Assassins to the time of Ancient Greece. The game Odyssey announced a few months after launch only made it even more ridiculous. Ptolemaic Egypt in the time of Cleopatra isn't an origin so much as a curtain call, a finale, and a farewell. But there is in on respect the title is apt, namely in that it shows us the original political assassination, the model for many copycats and repeats**.** This brings me to my final point. what is after all the fundamental element of Assassin's Creed, the fact that these games and its narratives repeatedly justifies and glorifies murder, especially when the victims are heads of state, guilty, and tyrants, which is absurd because as I showed in my commentary on earlier games, the Assassins more often than not serve some tyrants and attack others. But no story brings those issues as well as that of Julius Caesar's.
- The self-proclaimed Liberatores, Brutus and Cassius, who are numbered among the Assassins, weren't by any means good guys. Brutus, as per fellow conservative Cicero, a corrupt loan shark who sent goons to beat up the poor to get back his money. He and the Liberatores claimed to be restoring the Republic, but in practice they were acting like every other optimate faction who had murdered popular reformers from the time of the Gracchi. During his civil war with the 2nd Triumvirate, Brutus minted coins showing his face on it, which was illegal and against the norms, and following in the same vein as Pompey and Caesar. In other words, according to the historical view by Mary Beard and Adrian Goldsworthy, there is good reason to think Brutus would have been another warlord or dictator had he not lost and gotten "martyred" for liberty. And this is the kind of figure, AC has hitched to their wagon. Historically every good treatment of Caesar's assassination that I know presents this as a tragic act, steeped in horror at the violence, the betrayal by Caesar's closest friends, the act of murder happening in a hall of government. The fact that the assassination unleashed a spiral of civil war and led to the Empire. Origins treats this as a tale of good senators versus evil Caesar and presents it as unambiguously heroic. This action which inspired John Wilkes Booth to attack Lincoln thinking he was Brutus, as well as many other figures who justified other "propaganda of the deed" and which provided the model for Gavrilo Princip attacking the Archduke is reduced to a level below childish, because even small kids exposed to the Caesar story at a small age know that it's not to be celebrated. The failure to reckon with the gravity and ambiguity of this crime, the lack of reflection at the horror of their culpability in the fallout, is a major failure of this game, and ultimately it proves that Origins should not have been set in this Ptolemaic-Roman period since to the extent that the game deals with it, it fails.
CONCLUSION
- Let me say that I like Origins and I like Bayek. The Egypt of this game is unlike any other open-world setting and it looks amazing. The game shows the pyramids as they are now believed to have been, decorated, shiny, clean with caps at the top. This is probably the most accurate re-creation of the Ancient Pyramids than any pop-culture version of Egypt. The maps, the White Desert, the Black Desert and so on are amazing. I like getting heat-stroke by being in the desert and so on. The main redeeming virtue is its positive portrayal of Egyptian polytheism and sympathetic look at "pagan" worship since too often it's demonized in Christian works, and deprecated in secular works as either "atheists-but-not-in-name" or "not-truly-important". Egyptian pantheon in particular is often demonized as a source of Mummy curses as compared to Greek/Roman/Norse mythology so Origins contributed positively by offering a counter-view. That's leaving aside the moment when they cast white actors to play gods that is. I have no idea how accurate it is to Egyptian beliefs but Origins certainly gave me more insight into it than any other mainstream work.
The combat is obviously imported from Dark Souls, but it's still fitting because it feels like a sword-and-sandal peplum thing even if the combat tactics and maneuvers are very Hollywood. However, I will say that the main story at least the historical part is a huge letdown, it doesn't connect to Bayek's story, which given that he belongs to an older period of Egypt, the game should have been set in the time when that culture was still alive and not subjugated by foreigners. AC like many Western game companies have a hard time getting shareholders and marketers interested in real non-western settings, so whether it's AC1 and its choice on the minor Masyaf Assassins of the Third Crusade with its Western tenor rather than the Iranian Assassins of Alamut and its non-Western tenor, AC3's choice to make its story of a Mohawk revolve mainly on his white dad and his relations with white society; and Origins' decision to do a story and setting steeped in Ancient Lore in a time and place where the power is in the hands of European invaders, there's a timidity that prevents Ubisoft from taking the next step. The European games are likewise hampered by its obvious uncritical Eurocentrism and its refusal to engage with it outside the touristy EU propaganda stuff. Of the lot the New World games are the most interesting but even then not entirely successful. Every game, at its best and worst, shows some amount of compromise and timidity.
For all the credit it gets for shining a light on the unexpected and obscure, there's a hesitancy towards following through on the multi-culturalism that it announces on its disclaimer. The main attitude is reminiscent of Samuel Goldwyn's famous maxim, "let's invent some new cliches" or replace some cliches with new ones. There's a tendency towards touristy recreation and architecture over political and social development, older sources over newer ones.

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2018.06.14 19:32 acloudrift Cool Facts About Vikings DiscoveryTheWord.com

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Cool Facts You Didn’t Know About the Vikings by Nancy Smith DiscoveryTheWord.com (a slide show with numerous ads, here shorn of ads and on one page, extra links added; no references given, so some of these topics are doubtful)
1 Their hygiene was outrageously impressive
One common misconception about the Vikings, was that they were an unkempt and dirty group. Surprisingly, the Vikings actually took great pride in their daily bathing practices, which was fairly uncommon at the time. (Anglo Saxons thought their hygiene practices odd, since they only bathed once or twice a year …yum.)
Even though many of the men were at sea, it was still a common to take time for serious “manscaping”.
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Many of the Viking men spent a great deal of time in the morning grooming themselves, which included washing their faces and hair. They would also use a comb to brush out their hair and beard, and even took the time to clean their noses and ears.
Excavations of Viking burial mounds have exposed just how important hygiene really was to this group—many of the burials were filled with the men’s greatest treasures that included tweezers, razors and “ear spoons”.
2 They practiced democratic views
The Vikings were a very organized group, who strongly valued the beliefs of their people. In comparison to Anglo Saxons, the Norse kingdoms allowed all free men to vote, and it was these votes that could decide on a King (much like a presidential election).
Public assemblies took place regularly, in order to make decisions about current issues regarding politics, society and criminal charges. See Brehon Law
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In most cases, the majority always ruled and all voting results became law. In terms of punishment, no man was ever sent to prison for his crimes—instead, they were made to pay a hefty fine.
For those who felt like they didn’t want to be a part of the society anymore, they were more than welcome to “leave”. However, no one was forced to abandon their homes if they did not agree with the society’s rules. In fact, they were welcome to stay without being a subject of the state.
3 They were serious about their arts and crafts
A Viking’s crafting station was no joke—this group of people had a serious flair for pimping up their accessories. And we’re not just talking about cards and coloring; they embellished all kinds of things from jewelry and weapons to ships and everyday objects.
The rugged group favored elaborate inscriptions, intricate lines and animal art, which would have a huge impact on European arts during the Middle Ages.
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As the Vikings honed their favored designs, six different types of styles emerged. They included styles known as Oseberg, Jelling, Borre, Mammen, Ringerike and Urnes.
The 9th century started with art that included small parts of different beasts’ bodies decorating weaponry and everyday items. The animal forms began to shift over time, with more exaggerated features and cat-like eyes.
The Vikings started blending their animal forms with longer lines and S-shaped figures. It was common to see elongated animals like lions and snakes wrapped around intricate designs. Talk about an art attack! (How else to spend long winter months than crafting beautifully decorated objects? These represented wealth.)
4 They were, like, totally chill
Contrary to popular belief, the Vikings were not all about burning homes and stealing everyone’s stuff. While it is true that there were groups who used force instead of fairness to win disagreements, not every run-in ended up in a blood-soaked battle.
In reality, there were a variety of Viking groups that used peaceful practices in areas like Greenland, Iceland and smaller islands.
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These passive groups were much more concerned with trading in a peaceful manner, in order to provide for their colonies. They put a much greater importance on efficient farming, than on efficient fighting. Throughout the year, the Vikings would work on maintaining their farms and passing down efficient skills to the next generation.
They also valued the importance of raising livestock, and in good years, they were able to feed their families with just the food that they caught or grew on their land.
5 Their diet was all meat and potatoes
People who prefer all kinds of variety in their meals might not want to stay at a Viking’s bed and breakfast. When it came to the Viking’s diet, there was a fairly straightforward set of food groups on the plate each day.
The Vikings had two main meals, a day meal served in the morning and a night meal after the working day was over.
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Breakfast consisted of mostly leftover stew, bread and fruit, while the kids would eat some porridge and dried fruit. The night meal included some type of protein, such as fish or meat, stewed together with some vegetables grown from their crops.
A dessert likely included some more dried fruit with honey, and the main beverages included ale, buttermilk and mead.
When it came time to host a large feast, the Vikings essentially ate the same foods, except in larger portions.
6 They were the first to discover America
Not to toot their horn or anything, but the Vikings were (not) actually the first people to discover America, and not Columbus, either.
Many years earlier, a Viking known as Leif Erikson was said to have discovered an island that he referred to as “Winland”. It was an incredibly far journey to the West, and the story was passed through the colonies for many years History Of The Vikings In Vinland And North America.
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Long after in the 11th century, a German chronicler known as Adam of Bremen recorded his findings of the island. Because most Viking discoveries were recorded orally, it’s believed that their discovery could have come much, much earlier.
In the 19th century, people began to wonder about the claims made by the early Vikings. It wasn’t until the 1960’s that the tale was proven to be true: A Norse settlement was excavated in Newfoundland, settling the tale of who found America before Columbus.
(Editor's Note: The Greenland colonies were cited by Jared Diamond in his book on society fails, Collapse, spoiler alert: Diamond writes from a Cultural Marxist perspective. The Lost Norse sciencemag The Fate of Greenland's Vikings Archaeology
7 They don’t appreciate the horned helmet thing
When people hear the word Vikings, they often think of large men wearing horned helmets. There is no evidence that the Vikings ever wore this kind of helmet, but the imagery seems to have stuck. Drawings, depictions and costumes of all kinds still sell the idea that this group of seamen wore the painfully hideous horned helmet.
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It is believed that the blame for this false fashion lies with a man named Carl Emil Doepler. He was a costume designer who decided to use a horned helmet in the costume details for Der Ring des Nibelungen.
The opera was performed in 1876, derived from a Norse saga. People began to make the connection between the Viking men and the beautiful horned accessory that Doepler incorporated. Doepler and other scholars continued to intertwine German and Norse history, which has never been restored to the truth. (Editor's note: the horned helmet would have been ok as a dramatic costume element, but never as a practical accoutrement. War helmets were made to deflect blows, horns would have caught them.)
8 Bodily fluids were the key to a good fire
Umm… yeah. Even though the Vikings seriously valued their hygiene, they still had an appreciation for the power of a good pee. So appreciative in fact, that they utilized their urine as a way to ensure a good fire on long trips. Let us explain.
To build fires, the Vikings would first gather a specific fungus that they found on trees. It was commonly known as Tinder Fungus or Touchwood.
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The fungus was flammable on its own, but the Vikings took it a step further. They would cut away the exterior, and slice up the inside of the fungus. Then, they would beat the fungus until it became almost felt-like in texture.
The next step is where it gets iffy. Men would boil their fungus in urine, which helped them to light the charred fungus. This allowed it to smolder for days without actually burning. They could easily blow on the fungus and start a fire, without needing to create a spark.
9 Who did run the Viking world? Men and women (both)!
It was common for the man of a Viking household to be responsible for the hunting, farming and fighting, and for women to be responsible for the cleaning, cooking and care-giving.
However, the Vikings did in fact practice a lot of gender equality, and women’s rights were fairly expansive. Women could own their own property, speak their mind, and request a divorce if they were unhappy.
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Women usually married between the age of 12 and 15, and these were most often arranged by the family. However, women did have a say in their marriage, and could declare a divorce from their husband. In these cases, all possessions and family property were fairly divided.
Women also had the power to manage for their house-bond, and his household when he was away. In the case that the husband died, the wife would take over all responsibilities including trading and farming. It’s also believed some women took up arms in battle when their family or land was threatened.
10 Boats were a significant part of a burial
It is common that Vikings are connected to at-sea burials; however, not everyone was given the prestigious send-off. In many cases people were cremated or buried, saving a sea burial for those who were of high status.
In most cases, it was a sea captain, noble Vikings and people of very high wealth who were sent out in boats to their final destination.
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Some stories tell of the dead being pushed out to sea in their physical bodies, before the ship is set ablaze. However, there are cases where the body was cremated before being put into the boat. Along with the body itself, the boat also held the individual’s most prized possessions.
Another aspect of the water burial included the construction of the boats, which took a significant amount of time to create and design. The entire process of a Viking burial was incredibly significant, as family members wanted to ensure their loved ones got safely to the other side.
Baldr the Brave Norse Mythology
11 Blonde Vikings had more fun
We already know that Vikings valued their cleanliness, but what we didn’t know was that they were also a little bit vain. During the time of the Vikings, it was considered a sought-after characteristic to have blonde hair.
Men took this fact so seriously, that they did whatever they could in order to obtain this attractive look with old school beauty products.
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The most popular product that Viking men used was a strong soap similar to bleach, which they would let sit in their hair to lighten it. If they wanted, men would also bleach their beards for a more uniform look.
While this was mainly used to increase their level of attractiveness, Viking men also benefitted from using the product to fight off pesky lice. For the most part, this was a tactic that was used by men. Women were not known for adopting the practice.
12 Viking digs were seriously well-made
Both men and women in Viking colonies spent a lot of time at home and on their farms, so they needed homes that would stand against time and bad weather.
Their homes were usually built from local materials such as wood, stones, moss and turf. The homes were often long and rectangular, with aggressively-slanted roofing made from birch bark and sods. This helped to strengthen the home.
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To keep out cold winds and rain, the walls of the home were built strong with intertwining sticks. This layer was then covered in mud, and any other strengthening materials they could find.
For the most part, the houses were only designed to have one room, with one fire cooking in the middle. A hole in the roof allowed smoke to escape, while keeping the air flowing inside. Pets were allowed to stay in the home, but were made to remain at one end of the home, while humans stayed at the other.
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13 They preferred talking instead of writing
The Vikings were a simple, hard-working folk. There isn’t a lot of documented history straight from the Viking’s pen, however, because they preferred to talk instead of write things down.
(We don't really know this because they may have had writings all of which were lost. But illiteracy is a likely true assumption. They did leave stone carvings.)
Whether this is because they were illiterate or simply disinterested, a lot of the history about these people is lacking. This makes it hard to be sure exactly how they lived or what happened when.
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Fortunately, the best way for us to learn more about the Vikings is through story-telling of other colonies. Much of what we know about this group has been learned through the documentation of their enemies. (Editor's note: A similar circumstance was the ways of Phoenicians. Most of what we know about them was recorded by people who hated them. Likewise, the German NAZIs. Survivors get to control history.)
This is one of the reasons that people have created such a rugged and violent image of Vikings. Since their enemies never got to experience the Vikings in their natural, peaceful homes, there is more about their pillaging and violence than anything else.
While it makes it difficult to truly understand their ways, it is something to appreciate about their way of life.
14 Growing up as a Viking was no walk in the park
Although the Vikings in “How to Train Your Dragon” are wearing those historically incorrect horned helmets, they still got one thing right: If you were a weak kid, you weren’t useful.
Viking Voyage - BBC TimeWatch, 2008 1.5 hr
It wasn’t uncommon for children of unforgivable parents to be cast out from the home if they were too weak or sickly. Most children spent a lot of time learning invaluable skills that taught them how to be resilient and successful.
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Fortunately, for those who weren’t cast out by their families, there was a fair bit of flexibility when it came to their futures. Boys were able to decide what kind of field they wanted to work in, be it a farmer, a tradesman or a warrior.
Girls, on the other hand, often had a say in the man they were married to and how their house was run. In some colonies, only the strong would survive, but being strong meant a fairly fun childhood otherwise.
15 The Viking language gifted us with some pretty lit words
Old Norse was a North Germanic language, and it was commonly spoken by oversea colonies and Scandinavians in the 9th to 13th centuries. Because it is grouped with the Germanic family, it is also connected to English and several other present-day tongues.
Although the Norse language is quite different from present-day English, there are actually quite a few words that have made their way into our dictionaries, thanks to the Vikings.
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Although the sounds of the words have changed drastically from how the Vikings preferred, these terms will likely remain in our dictionaries for obvious reasons. (Because they are awesome).
Some of the harsher words that we’ve adopted include “anger”, “hell”, “skull” and “slaughter”. Other dark words that we use on a daily basis include “ugly” and “weak”.
It’s not all bad news, however. The Vikings left us with some fun words to use as well, including “freckles”, “husband”, “wife”, and our all-time favorite, “cake”.
edit May.20.2020 Nor-disk(dicks?) migration to Brit Isles 2018 (by non-native English speaker Skjalden, thus many grammatic errors, see more by this author in study notes)
16 Vikings are linked to the sport of skiing
The origin of skiing can be traced back thousands of years ago, and it is believed that some of its earliest origins are Scandinavian. This is due to the fact that the word ‘ski’ comes from the Old Norse word meaning ‘stick of wood’.
While the origins of the actual ski have been traced back to a few different locations, the skis used by the Vikings were not created for sport back then.
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In reality, the skis were a means of easy transportation, as well as an effective way to travel and hunt simultaneously. In Scandinavia, an old rock carving depicts the image of a skier that dates back about 5,000 years. The image is of a person wearing the skis, while also holding a pole. Unfortunately, the rock was damaged intentionally in 2016. Other evidence of skis has been found across Scandinavia, including Hoting, Jämtland county, Sweden and Kalvträsk, Sweden.
17 Swords were (revered private possessions)
Swords were a super huge deal to Vikings, and it was a must-have item for people who wanted respect from their family and peers. Swords were known to be very expensive, as well as rare and difficult to make.
Because of this, only those of a high ranking such as a (wealthy person of noble family) were normally seen with one. A man and his sword were believed to have a strong connection, which helped in battle.
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The sword was thought to give a warrior his power, and that a warrior’s strength could also be passed into the sword itself. This is why it was a huge deal for a sword to be passed down through the generations—it was believed to hold the power of the many owners from the past.
Because they were such a big deal, swords were often named and well-cared-for. It was important that the sword be strong but light, sharp and easy to maneuver. (Sword making has long been a technical art, which has famous masters from Damascus to Nippon. Bladesmith)
18 They had many options in the after-life
While some people see the after-life as only having a Heaven and Hell, the Vikings were a lot more creative with their options. They had a strong belief that the way you spent your time on Earth would decide where you went in death.
Brave warriors who fought valiantly or who died in battle would thought to end up in the best possible place, called Valhalla.
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Warriors could also end up in Folkvangr, a field ruled by the goddess Freyja. This goddess took half of the warriors, while Valhalla took the other half.
Other admirable places to end up after death included Helgafjell and Helheim. Helgafjell was considered a lovely place to go for anyone who had led a good and admirable life, while Helheim was the absolute worst place to end up.
Helheim was reserved for those who died “dishonorably”, which could even mean dying of old age in bed. Dying bravely was (the ideal). See also Ragnarok.
19 Onions were a super bad thing. (Death indicator).
Onions might make some people cry, but when it comes to the Vikings, there was no worse smell to experience. It wasn’t because the soup had gone bad, but because onions were often used to gauge how bad was an injury.
Vikings who had been out in battle and become wounded were brought back to the healers for examination. Their practices were rather unique.
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Instead of taking the time to inspect wounds, healers would feed the warriors a hefty amount of onion soup (#7). By doing so, the healers would wait to see if they could smell the onion’s stench coming from any part of the body.
If they could smell the onions coming from the injured man’s belly, then it was determined that there was already a gash far too deep for repair. Not only did this spell disaster for the injured, but the stench also warned others to avoid the area. The smell of onions meant that someone was very close to death.
Editor's Notes
The strident Viking Spirit that was powerful in their heyday has been winnowed down by Christian-imposed meekness. Now their descendants, Swedes, have Stockholm Syndrome, the Norse have Quislings, and the Danes have lost their fighting spirit too.
Before the Vikings (Bronze Age boat culture) SrvtJv 6m
Ethnic Genetic Interests of Europeans (and their descendants, an ethical argument)
Vikings War of Clans (fantasy game)
A Viking Video Compendium
Viking Voyage - BBC TimeWatch, 2008 1.5 hr
Vikings Ships Ghost Story Documentary 58 min NatGeo
The Lost Vikings 52 min
THE MYSTERIOUS VIKINGS: Who Were They? 42 min
Viking Voyages: Wings of A Dragon (Viking Documentary) Timeline 52 min
Vikings, The Founders of Europe 50 min
Stories From The Stone Age: Vikings Documentary 1.2 hr Ulfberht swords
BBC The Viking Sagas 59 min
1362 Enigma Documentary of the Vikings arrival in Kensington MN 1.16 hr
The Ancient History of the Vikings part1 42 min
Vikings In North America (Documentary) 46 min
with a dose of humor and modern tribulations... Vikings: A Mythology of Peace 5 min Vikings: The Arrival 5 min
study notes
Skjalden Nordic YT channel
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2017.12.09 04:33 highly_evolved_ape The muslim taboo. When will we admit that Islam is toxic? When will we support a #muslimban? Destiny likes stats. Well. Stats cannot be ignored!

The Pew Research Center, whom are seemingly non-partisan, show poll data with high acceptance rates of terrorism, killing of apostates, sharia law, lack of women's rights, etc (and obviously antisemitism is off the the charts). The original Pew poll in 2013 that Sam Harris and others often quote, only included 11 Muslim countries however the newer data includes polling data from over 30 countries. There seem to be many other polls by other groups finding similar trends. Where are the polls showing the majority of Muslims truly believe in peace and equality?
On the other hand, I'm sure we could easily find polls illustrating how racist, violent and stoopid Americans are.
Here is another list of biased and unbiased polls linking Islam and its followers to 'bad ideas':
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq. http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatle2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops. 68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops. 90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops. 72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops. 52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops. About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil. Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target". http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/727.php?nid=&id=&pnt=727
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say. http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam". http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks. http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-hamas-skyrockets-following-war-poll-shows/
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia. http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4730825.ece
Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright. http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda. http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007 56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/15/iran-terrorism-al-qaida-islam-opinions-columnists-ilan-berman.html
Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden 54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/268.pdf
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law. Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries; (Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%) http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden: Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer) Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer) Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings. (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings). http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable) 23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable) 34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda 25% of Indonesians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003) 1 in 5 Egyptians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable) http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Gallup: 51% of Pakistanis grieve Osama bin Laden (only 11% happy over death) 44% of Pakistanis viewed Osama bin Laden as a martyr (only 28% as an oulaw) http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/majority_of_our_pakistani_alli.html
Zogby International 2011: “Majorities in all six countries said they viewed the United States less favorably following the killing of the Al-Qaeda head [Osama bin Laden] in Pakistan” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/arab-worlds-views-of-us-president-obama-increasingly-negative-new-poll-finds/2011/07/12/gIQASzHVBI_blog.html
Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law." http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/
Hurriyet Daily News / Metropoll (2015): 20% of Turks support the slaughter of Charlie Hebdo staffers and cartoonists. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/metropoll-42-turkish-public-believe-muslims-are-real-victims-charlie-hebdo-attack-1486355
al-Jazeera Poll (2015): 81% of respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/25/shock-poll-81-of-al-jazeera-arabic-poll-respondents-support-isis/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 33% of Muslim-Americans say al-Qaeda beliefs are Islamic or correct. (49% disagree), http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 38% of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (43% disagree), http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
Clarion Project Study (2015): 11.5% of Arabs support ISIS, or about 42 million. http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/isis-has-least-42-million-supporters-arab-world
Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015): Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. http://www.france24.com/en/20151214-two-thirds-palestinians-support-knife-attacks-poll
Social Trends Survey (2016): 21% of Turks says ISIS 'represents Islam"; 10% would not categorize it as a terrorist organization. http://www.trust.org/item/20160112154230-7c2sb/
ICM (2014): 16% of all French Muslims support ISIS, including 27% of those aged 18-24. http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795
Violence in Defense of Islam
Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)
Center for Social Cohesion: One Third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam (Wikileaks cable) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
NOP Research: Hardcore Islamists comprise 9% of Britain's Muslim population; Another 29% would "aggressively defend" Islam; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam 51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm
Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all. http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.php/pot/article/view/sharia-adherence-mosque-survey/html
Pew Research (2013): 76% of South Asian Muslims and 56% of Egyptians advocate killing anyone who leaves the Islamic religion. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam (only 58% say 'never'). http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/extremism-in-the-name-of-islam-and-malaysian-muslims-joshua-woo
Motivaction Survey (2014): 80% of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with Holy War against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/11/young-dutch-turks-radical-views-worry-mps-call-for-more-research/
BBC (2015): Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, 27% of British Muslims openly support violence against cartoonists. Another 8% would not say, meaning that only 2 of 3 surveyed would say that the killings were not justified. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31293196
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 24% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified against those who "offend Islam" (60% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 29% of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable (61% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
Pew Research (2015): 40% of Palestinians, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% of Muslims in Bangladesh agree that violence against civilians in defense of Islam is sometimes justified. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America says suicide bombings and other violence against civilians in defense of Islam is sometimes or often justified. 81% say it is never justified. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-app-a/
Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016) Only 39% in Egypt condemn religious extremism. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/10/survey-reveals-aggressive-pro-sharia-attitudes-in-countries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/
Sharia
83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers 78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/
Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory) http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.” http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 77% of Egyptian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 58% of Jordanian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 36% of Indonesian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 82% of Pakistanis favor floggings and amputation 65% of Nigerian Muslims favor floggings and amputation http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2013): 72% of Indonesians want Sharia to be law of the land http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/seventy-two-percent-of-indonesians-favor-shariah-law-pew-forum/
Pew Research (2013): 81% of South Asian Muslims and 57% of Egyptians suport amputating limbs for theft. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): According to an interpretation of this study, approximately 45% of Sharia supporters surveyed disagreed with the idea that Islamic law should apply only to Muslims. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Economist (Pew 2013): 74% who favor Islamic law in Egypt say it should apply to non-Muslims as well. http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/04/daily-chart-20?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/Shariadolikeit
WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism
FPO (2014): 43% of Islamic teachers in Austria openly advocate Sharia law over democracy. http://rt.com/news/208387-austria-islam-kindergarten-muslim/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 33% of Muslim-Americans say that Sharia should be supreme to the US Constitution (43% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 51% of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Sharia courts rather than courts of the United States (39% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
2015 (Jyllands Posten): 77% of Muslims in Denmark believe the Quran's instructions should be 'fully appied'. http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past
2015 (Jyllands Postn): Only 53% of Danish Muslims believe Danish law should be based on the consitution and not the Quran. http://www.thelocal.dk/20151019/forty-percent-danish-muslims-wants-quran-based-laws
ICM Poll (2016): 23% of British Muslim support the introduction of Sharia in the UK "instead of British Law" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html
ICM Poll (2016): 21% of British Muslims decline to condemn stoning adulterers (5% openly support them). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html
Pew Research (2016): A majority of Muslims in 10 countries favor basing laws on the Quran (inc. Pakistan, Pal. Auth, Malaysia, Jordan, Senegal, Nigeria, Indonesia, Lebanon and Turkey). Educated Muslims also favored Sharia, including 55% in 'secular Turkey'. http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/04/27/the-divide-over-islam-and-national-laws-in-the-muslim-world/ http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/04/majority_of_educated_muslims_abroad_still_favor _imposition_of_sharia_law.html
Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016): 79% of Libyans believe Sharia should be the sole source of legislation, as do 63% in Algeria and 60% in Morocco. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/10/survey-reveals-aggressive-pro-sharia-attitudes-in-countries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/
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2017.10.22 14:30 AutoModerator Weekly Roundup

News roundup for the previous week.
In International news
  1. #Cyberattack Captures Data on U.S. Weapons in Four-Month Assault: Australian military referred to the breach as “Alf’s Mystery Happy Fun Time”. Officials with knowledge of the intrusion said attack was thought to have originated in China. “The compromise was extensive and extreme” Mr. Clarke said
  2. China offers support to Spanish government amid #Catalonia crisis: understands and supports the Spanish government's efforts to protect the country's unity and territorial integrity, China's Foreign Ministry said
  3. Mexican experts expect strengthened LatAm-China ties
  4. The world’s most dangerous cities for #women 2017: Shanghai ranked fifth best megacity for women. second best when it came to women having access to economic resources such as education, land, and financial services such as bank accounts, and third safest in terms of sexual violence and harassment
  5. China expected to work with Europe to preserve Iran nuclear deal after Trump threat
  6. Asian American designer Phillip Lim talks about Made in China stigma and being Chinese: I get asked a lot how does it feel to be Chinese but not to be from here. It’s in my blood, as I get older I feel more connected [to China]. Wen and I are children of Chinese immigrants. We’re proud of who we are
  7. China moves in as US pulls back from #global institutions: “America First” protectionism and US tax reform loomed large over annual meeting of the IMF and World Bank. “This is an important opportunity for us,” Shi Yaobin, the country’s deputy finance minister, told a packed room at the bank
  8. A suspected child sexual abuser from the United States who fled to China was sent back by Chinese police on Monday
  9. Once China's most wanted #fugitives, Yang Xiuzhu was sentenced to eight years in jail for embezzlement and taking bribes. According to the court, her sentence was reduced as she turned herself in, confessed to her crimes and actively returned her illegal gains
  10. China Moves Belt and Road Initiative to #Arctic: Sent Ship Northward for Science, Then New Trade Route Announced. The announcement from Beijing confused the Canadians who claim sovereignty over the waters transited by the Xue Long
  11. Snow Dragon's Flight: China Goes to the #Arctic With Russia. During Chinese President Xi Jinping’s recent visit to Russia, the two countries issued a joint declaration underscoring the importance of their collective development of the Northern Sea Route
  12. As anti-US feeling grows in #Cambodia, China cashes in: Chinese investments in Cambodia ballooned by US$200 million last year to US$4.8 billion, making it the single largest investor in the country
  13. Sino-Serbian ‘Iron Friendship’ becomes stronger
  14. What to Make of China’s Rejection of the Dollar? Washington Is Destroying American Power. "Russia and China are too strong to be dominated, and, thus, are throwing off the dollar system. If other countries follow, the dollar will cease to be an instrument of US control over the rest of the world."
  15. Why The Ambiguity Of China's Belt And Road Initiative Is Perhaps Its Biggest Strength
  16. China's Challenges Abroad: Why The Belt & Road Initiative Will Succeed
  17. ‍The Chinese delegation emerged victorious from the 44th WorldSkills Competition in Abu Dhabi, winning 15 gold, seven silver and eight bronze medals
  18. #Afghanistan obtains AIIB permanent membership
  19. China uses soft power to woo #Arab world: Chinese soft power in the Arab world is taking more than one form. Unlike Western countries, Beijing’s financial aid and investment are free from any preconditions. Arabs look at the Asian giant as a country “that has no colonial ambitions”
  20. French Riviera Honors Liu Ye as Ambassador to Boost Tourism
  21. China's cooperative vision for a productive China-U.S. relationship
  22. China’s Belt and Road is driving the US to distraction
  23. China's first-tier cities remain attractive to overseas #returnees: survey. China is currently in the middle of its biggest ever influx of returning overseas-educated graduates
  24. Communist Party of China official urges China, Japan to improve ties
In Domestic news
  1. The Mountains of Takeout Trash Choking China's Cities
  2. CPC National Congress: Females to Champion Political Advancement
  3. China to build giant facial recognition database to identify any citizen within seconds: The system can be connected to surveillance camera networks and will use cloud facilities to connect with data storage and processing centres distributed across the country
  4. China set to lift remaining 40 million people out of poverty by 2020
  5. China is building a mega-airport in Beijing that will open in 2019
  6. Over 600,000 in China Offered #MentalHealth Treatment in 2016: Mental illness in China commonly includes autism, anxiety and depression
  7. Video - China is building a mega-airport in Beijing that will open in 2019
  8. China to boost energy storage capacity to fuel renewable power use
  9. Xi Jinping declares 'new era' for China. China has entered a "new era" where it should "take centre stage in the world", President Xi Jinping says.
  10. Xi Jinping’s leadership reshuffle revealed: meet the pair poised to become two of China’s most powerful men
  11. A kinder, gentler new anti-corruption system for China?
  12. 教育部部长陈宝生:2020年全面建立新高考制度
  13. China's anti-graft czar Wang Qishan to bow out, party sources say
  14. To Inspire Young Communists, China Turns to ‘Red Army’ #Schools: ordered schools to promote “Chinese traditional and socialist culture” — a mix of party loyalty and patriotic pride in China’s past. Xi has defended his push calling traditional culture “part of the Chinese nation’s blood and genes”
  15. China's #Pollution Crackdown Is Gaining Momentum: In pockets of China’s industrial heartland, a government push to clean up the environment and cut excess output is starting to bite. Furnaces have gone cold, the lights have been switched off, migrant workers are drifting back home
  16. China breaking all solar power records, aiming for 50GW in 2017
  17. China establishes world’s largest medical insurance network
In SciTech news
  1. Use of #AI to grow in nation's medical sector: China will promote artificial intelligence technologies in healthcare to improve services for patients, especially at the grassroots level, according to the nation's top health authority. Including remote care services, assisting diagnosis and treatment
  2. #Cloudcomputing enters 'golden time' in China: wide use of AI cannot happen without cloud computing, which helps improve efficiency hardware usage and avoid idleness and waste of the resources
  3. China's top procuratorate has said the country's prosecutors will introduce more technology, including big data and #artificialintelligence, during investigations. The digital assistance will provide more accuracy and objectivity to prosecutors nationwide
  4. Policewoman becomes first in China to direct traffic with artificial intelligence
  5. China targets American technology in drive to become #innovation leader: China is pushing to further deepen technology collaboration with U.S. business and academic institutions as part of a national effort to transform its economy, said a U.S. intelligence official
  6. Feature: No aliens found yet, but "heartbeats" in universe heard - Xinhua
  7. China wants to bring #artificialintelligence to its classrooms to boost its education system: “super teacher” is an AI powered education platform developed by online education start-up Master Learner’s 300 engineers
  8. G7, tech giants agree on plan to block jihadist content online
  9. China's #quantum leap: Karl Ziemelis, chief physical sciences editor at Nature, said that with the publication of these new papers, Pan and his colleagues have completed their demonstration of a trio of quantum experiments that will be central to any global space-based quantum Internet
  10. Interview: China's sci-tech research achievements "overwhelming": Australian Academy of Science president - Xinhua
  11. China, France plan to launch first joint oceanic satellite in 2018
  12. Chinese scientists announced observation of the "optical counterpart" of #gravitational waves coming from the merger of two binary neutron stars using a survey telescope in Antarctica
  13. Competition from emerging markets (especially China) is eroding the UK’s global share in key research indicators: China overtook the UK in global share of highly cited articles in 2014
In Economic news
  1. Tech and Real Estate Lift the Fortunes of China’s Richest: Xu Jiayin — an entrepreneur behind China Evergrande Group — has become the country’s richest person. China’s tech tycoons — Pony Ma of Tencent and Jack Ma of Alibaba — were the second- and third-richest in the survey
  2. China's Direct Investment in South #Korea Plunges on Restrictions: Direct investment from mainland China dropped 63 percent to $608 million during the first three quarters of this year from the same period last year, according to a statement from South Korea’s trade ministry
  3. In China's northeast, a switch to new industries aims to revive ailing 'rust belt'
  4. Chinese EV Boom Could Crash Oil Prices
  5. China Takes Aim At The Petrodollar
  6. Tesla's massive Supercharger station in Shanghai will be the largest in the world
  7. China now rivals U.S. in VC investments
  8. China’s manufacturers are enabling a new model of startup incubation
  9. China's GDP to grow 7% in H2 2017
  10. China offers to buy 5% of Saudi Aramco
  11. silicon-valley-start-up-rival-chinese-to-capture-bike-sharing-market
  12. IMF official confident in Chinese yuan’s role in global market
  13. China tops the world in nation #brand value growth: Brand Finance Nation Brands 2017 report shows that China's brand value now stands at US$10.2tn, representing an increase of 44 percent over the last year
  14. U.S. Treasury Declines to Label China a Currency Manipulator
  15. Volvo hopes to take on Tesla in China’s electric car market
  16. Polestar 1: Sweden's Volvo and China's Geely unveil new electric sports car
  17. Which is the world's No. 1 economy? Certainly not the US
  18. China remains most important destination of foreign investment
  19. A different way to look at China’s debt
  20. Chinese tech companies battle Silicon Valley giants for control of South East Asia's markets.
  21. Jack Ma: 'Alibaba should join forces in developing Russia'
  22. Why China is the new leader in innovation and its adoption
  23. China’s warning of a ‘Minsky moment’ should not be ignored: outgoing PBoC chairman's comments are like yelling ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre
  24. Xiaomi is fastest growing mobile brand globally: IDC
  25. Who has the world’s No. 1 economy? Not the U.S. By the most measures, China has passed the United States and is pulling away
  26. 15 Things You Didn’t Know About VOLVO
  27. GDP expected to top 80 trillion yuan this year, NDRC chief says
In Military news
  1. PLA makes huge strides
  2. China further regulates military-civilian integration: organizations who want to establish themselves in the sector cannot use words like "ministry", "bureau", "committee" or "institute" in their names without approval as it may mislead others that they are entities of the state or military units
  3. US Army Shifts Focus to Fighting Technologically Advanced Near-Peer Foes: The US military's "advantage" on the battlefield "has steadily eroded" as a result of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran having studied the Pentagon's strong suits and pain points, Army Chief-of-Staff Gen. Mark Milley said
  4. Kicking Out Major Rival? China 'Squeezes US' From #SouthEastAsia Arms Market: "The patronizing tone of Barack Obama in his dialogue with Thailand actually cleared the way for China to expand its military supplies to this country,"
  5. China unveils anti-terror #laser gun capable of hitting the targets within 200 meters
  6. China’s military to hold open days at barracks – but only for Chinese: Some PLA barracks are to hold open days during national holidays, giving the public a taste of army training and weapons
  7. China’s nuclear ballistic missile #submarines (SSBNs, or “boomers”) are soon to become a major worry for the United States. How does this change the balance of power in the Pacific? Type 096 can strike the U.S. from secure areas near China’s coast
  8. Chinese Navy gets South China Sea rescue squadron
  9. Chinese naval escort fleet arrives in France for friendly visit
  10. Chinese female peacekeeper Zhang Qin wins UN award in S. Sudan
Other Notables
  1. #KrisWu and Travis Scott Take Over New York with ‘Deserve’: Immediately skyrocketing to No. 1 on U.S. iTunes' Hip-Hop and overall charts, Wu celebrated the release at New York's Up&Down Club with Travis Scott for the first very live performance that same night
  2. Harvest Art: Drone captures giant communist flag made out of chili peppers in China
  3. Liuxia, Zhejiang
  4. Australia's new reality is a Xi Jinping-led Asian order
  5. China’s #archaeologists becoming major players at excavations around the world
  6. What will happen when China rules the world?
  7. The West doesn't seem to be gushing over Hong Kong's first female leader Carrie Lam. How come? Is advocating for gender issues not so important anymore, or is it conditional?
  8. Subway riders in Boston to enjoy 'Made in China' trains
  9. About 70% of China's "missing girls" is due to not registering their births, rather than infanticide. As these girls are now turning 18 and going to college or working, the early phase of about 20 million teen girls materializing on the census out of nowhere.
  10. As U.S. Confronts Internet’s Disruptions, China Feels Vindicated
  11. Shanghai
  12. Military reunification w/ Taiwan is inevitable, since Hong Kong experienced ruled out the peaceful reunification
  13. China's path to #ecotopia. In China's Urban Revolution, writer Austin Williams promises a nuanced view that is neither sinocentric nor biased towards the West. The book falls short. It seems that whatever China is doing, there is a Western thought leader whom Williams indicates must be an influence
  14. The Staggering Impact of China’s 'Belt and Road' Initiative
  15. Live: Opening session of CPC National Congress中国共产党第十九次全国代表大会开幕会
  16. Top notch western propaganda: BBC documentary is shamelessly trying to push the idea that "evil" China is "colonising" Africa and planning world domination.
  17. Beijing’s Old Summer Palace is marking the 157th anniversary of a massive sack during the Second Opium War, when thousands of Chinese cultural relics were either ruined or stolen by Anglo-French forces
  18. Terracotta warriors used to be colorful
  19. Chinese online series continue to win market share over the last five years, rivaling TV shows from abroad
  20. Internet fuels Chinese comics industry
  21. The Art of Luo Li Rong
  22. McKinsey Report: Debunking Salty Western Perceptions about Chinese investment in Africa
  23. Xi Jinping raises two fifteen year struggles: what China will look like in 2035 and mid-century
  24. China's Engagement With Africa
  25. CGTN takes sneak peek at new Beijing Daxing International Airport
  26. Jeremy Lin says racist remarks he heard from opponents were worse in NCAA than NBA
  27. 'Never Say Die' Is Now China's Biggest #Comedy Ever: The king-slaying comedy Never Say Die scored one of the biggest weeks a comedy has ever had, anywhere, when it ran up an extraordinary $181 million in its first seven days after its September 30th National Day holiday launch
  28. Chinese/Japanese Horror Film Constructs $200 Million Dollar Set That Will Turn Into A Working Amusement Park.
  29. There is terror among Washington elites that China is winning in Asia
  30. Chengdu
  31. Wtf is this (it's like Guo Wengui...I mean "miles" is testing how stupid he can look and still have some people follow)
  32. LOL Esports: Quarterfinals in Guangzhou
  33. China's Eight Great Regional Cuisines Henkubao
  34. Tianjin 天津
  35. John McCain was shocked and couldn't believe it when told that China had already passed the US in PPP GDP and would be 50% larger than the US by 2024
  36. 《妖猫传》Legend of the Demon Cat movie trailer
  37. Ancestral routes
  38. West risks becoming the frog in the well
  39. "Human Rights"
  40. Russia and China: Through the Ages. China breathes modern life into the ancient Silk Road
  41. China’s long history in Africa - New African Magazine
  42. Getting To The Point: What's wrong with this western story about China?(CGTN getting better at calling out western bullshit)
  43. 超级工程Ⅲ 第一集 食物供应【China's Mega ProjectsⅢ EP01 Agriculture】
  44. Restaurant in China Offers Free Food to Street Sweepers, Soldiers and the Elderly
  45. China is heading for the future: Russian President Putin
  46. Xi Jinping to Push for Taiwan Unification (Captaincool07 video)
  47. Why is China Tech smoking the West? Because they have socialist vision.
  48. The Hanfu fashion revival: ancient Chinese dress finds a new following - 400 years after falling out of favour, the flowing, and sometimes controversial, robes of the Han ethnic group are back in style
  49. The West’s errant conception of China: The influence of the Western press is shrinking. Therefore the incorrect coverage of China by the Western press can only mislead its own society and its disturbing influence on China is increasingly diluted (lol)
  50. The truth of indemnity payments from the #BoxerRebellion: "by 1927, Beijing had almost completely revoked Boxer Indemnity payments abroad and had succeeded in redirecting the payments for use within China
  51. Xi's targeted war on poverty
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2017.09.19 00:26 Prettygame4Ausername A resource on the genocide of the Rohingyan peoples by the fascist government and peoples of Burma.

The Rohingya persecution in Myanmar refers to the ongoing military crackdown by Myanmar Army and police on Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine State in the country's northwestern region. The crackdown was, apparently, in response to attacks on Burmese border posts in October 2016 by Rohingya insurgents. The Burmese army have been accused of wide-scale human rights violations, including extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, arson and infanticides, claims which the Burmese government dismisses as "exaggerations.
Myanmar is predominantly Buddhist (88%–90% of the population), with small minorities of other faiths, including a small minority of Muslims (4%), most of whom are forbidden to vote and denied citizenship, with the exception of the Kamans.
Several other ethnic groups suffer discrimination, abuse and neglect by the government; in the western coastal province of Rakhine State, it is the predominantly Buddhist Rakhine (4%, about 2 million people) and the predominantly Muslim Rohingya (2%, about 1 million people) that have suffered at the hands of the government.
The Burmese government have often put up propaganda posters inciting violence between the two groups, by urging Rakhine Buddhists to take over land from Rakhine Rohingya
Tensions between Buddhist and Muslim communities have also led to violence, with nationalist Buddhists often targeting Rohingyas
The Rohingya people have been described as "amongst the world's least wanted" and "one of the world's most persecuted minorities."
The Rohingya are deprived of the right to free movement and of higher education
They have been denied Burmese citizenship since the Burmese nationality law was enacted
More info on that here
The law has been described as perpetuating an apartheid-like regime on the Rohingya people
More info here
And here
They are not allowed to travel without official permission and were previously required to sign a commitment not to have more than two children though the law was not strictly enforced.
They are subjected to routine forced labour where typically a Rohingya man will have to give up one day a week to work on military or government projects and one night for sentry duty
More info here
The Rohingya have also lost a lot of arable land, which has been confiscated by the military to give to Buddhist settlers from elsewhere in Myanmar
The Rohingya describe themselves as descendants of Arab traders who settled in the region many generations ago. Scholars have stated that they have been present in the region since the 15th century. However, they have been denied citizenship by the government of Myanmar, which describes them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh
In modern times, persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar dates back to the 1970s
Since then, Rohingya people have regularly been made the target of persecution by the government and nationalist Buddhists
The tension between the various religious groups in the country was often exploited by the past military rulers of Myanmar
Following the border police incidents, in which ARSA members attacked border posts, the Myanmar army began a major crackdown in the villages of northern Rakhine state. The ARSA claimed they were taking "defensive actions" in 25 different locations and accused government soldiers of raping and killing civilians. The group also claimed that Rathedaung had been under a blockade for more than two weeks, starving the Rohingya, and that the government forces were preparing to do the same in Maungdaw
As the crackdown continued, the casualties increased. Arbitrary arrest, extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, brutalities against civilians, and looting were reportedly carried out.
More info here This also has further information for personal interest, including recent atrocities carried out by the regime.
In late November, Human Rights Watch released satellite images which showed that approximately 1,250 Rohingya houses in five villages had been burned down by the security forces
The media and the human rights groups frequently reported intense human rights violations by the Myanmar military
During one incident in November, the Myanmar military used helicopters to shoot and kill the villagers after the claim that some villagers joined the insurgents in an ambush which killed a senior army officer. The army confirmed that two helicopters mounted with guns dispersed the crowd but denied they shot at civilians.
More info here
Here
And Here
As of November 2016, Myanmar had yet to allow the media and human rights groups to enter the persecuted areas
Those who fled Myanmar to escape persecution reported that women had been gang raped, men killed, houses torched, and young children thrown into burning houses
More info here
And here
The boats carrying Rohingya refugees on Naf River were often gunned down by the Myanmar army
On 3 February 2017, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) released a report based on interviews with more than 200 Rohingya refugees, which said that the abuses included gang-rape, mass killing, and killing children
More info here
And here
Nearly half of the interviewees stated that family members of theirs had been killed
Half of the women interviewed stated that they had been raped or sexually assaulted: the report described the sexual violence as "massive and systematic"
The army and police were stated to have burned "homes, schools, markets, shops, and mosques" belonging to or used by the Rohingya people
More info here
And here
In March 2017, a police document obtained by Reuters listed 423 Rohingyas detained by the police since 9 October 2016, 13 of whom were children, the youngest being ten years old. Two police captains in Maungdaw verified the document and justified the arrests, with one of them saying, "We the police have to arrest those who collaborated with the attackers, children or not, but the court will decide if they are guilty; we are not the ones who decide." Myanmar police also claimed that the children had confessed to their alleged crimes during interrogations, and that they were not beaten or pressured during questioning. The average age of those detained is 34, the youngest is 10, and the oldest is 75.
On August 25, 2017 Rohingya militants attacked the government forces, and the government in response attacked the civil population, forcing dozens of thousands of Rohingya to flee to Bangladesh. Personally, I wholeheartedly support these insurgent attacks. Oppress and attack people to the extent listed above and you think they won't fight back ? Ridiculous.
There were also reports of mass killings of Rohingyas by the military and Buddhist vigilantes in Chut Pyin village near Rathedaung. Chris Lewa stated that they had received reports of 130 being killed in the village. A video provided to ABC News by a human rights monitor purportedly shows the village burning and in another clip of freshly dug earth mound, allegedly graves of those killed.
According to Matthew Smith of the NGO Fortify Rights, “We can now say with a high level of confidence that state-led security forces and local armed residents have committed mass killings.” Smith accused the Burmese military of trying to expel all Rohingyas from the country
I could post more but I think the point has already been made.
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2017.09.18 23:59 Prettygame4Ausername A resource on the genocide of the Rohingyan peoples by the fascist government and peoples of Burma.

The Rohingya persecution in Myanmar refers to the ongoing military crackdown by Myanmar Army and police on Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine State in the country's northwestern region. The crackdown was, apparently, in response to attacks on Burmese border posts in October 2016 by Rohingya insurgents. The Burmese army have been accused of wide-scale human rights violations, including extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, arson and infanticides, claims which the Burmese government dismisses as "exaggerations.
Myanmar is predominantly Buddhist (88%–90% of the population), with small minorities of other faiths, including a small minority of Muslims (4%), most of whom are forbidden to vote and denied citizenship, with the exception of the Kamans.
Several other ethnic groups suffer discrimination, abuse and neglect by the government; in the western coastal province of Rakhine State, it is the predominantly Buddhist Rakhine (4%, about 2 million people) and the predominantly Muslim Rohingya (2%, about 1 million people) that have suffered at the hands of the government.
The Burmese government have often put up propaganda posters inciting violence between the two groups, by urging Rakhine Buddhists to take over land from Rakhine Rohingya
Tensions between Buddhist and Muslim communities have also led to violence, with nationalist Buddhists often targeting Rohingyas
The Rohingya people have been described as "amongst the world's least wanted" and "one of the world's most persecuted minorities."
The Rohingya are deprived of the right to free movement and of higher education
They have been denied Burmese citizenship since the Burmese nationality law was enacted
More info on that here
The law has been described as perpetuating an apartheid-like regime on the Rohingya people
More info here
And here
They are not allowed to travel without official permission and were previously required to sign a commitment not to have more than two children though the law was not strictly enforced.
They are subjected to routine forced labour where typically a Rohingya man will have to give up one day a week to work on military or government projects and one night for sentry duty
More info here
The Rohingya have also lost a lot of arable land, which has been confiscated by the military to give to Buddhist settlers from elsewhere in Myanmar
The Rohingya describe themselves as descendants of Arab traders who settled in the region many generations ago. Scholars have stated that they have been present in the region since the 15th century. However, they have been denied citizenship by the government of Myanmar, which describes them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh
In modern times, persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar dates back to the 1970s
Since then, Rohingya people have regularly been made the target of persecution by the government and nationalist Buddhists
The tension between the various religious groups in the country was often exploited by the past military rulers of Myanmar
Following the border police incidents, in which ARSA members attacked border posts, the Myanmar army began a major crackdown in the villages of northern Rakhine state. The ARSA claimed they were taking "defensive actions" in 25 different locations and accused government soldiers of raping and killing civilians. The group also claimed that Rathedaung had been under a blockade for more than two weeks, starving the Rohingya, and that the government forces were preparing to do the same in Maungdaw
As the crackdown continued, the casualties increased. Arbitrary arrest, extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, brutalities against civilians, and looting were reportedly carried out.
More info here This also has further information for personal interest, including recent atrocities carried out by the regime.
In late November, Human Rights Watch released satellite images which showed that approximately 1,250 Rohingya houses in five villages had been burned down by the security forces
The media and the human rights groups frequently reported intense human rights violations by the Myanmar military
During one incident in November, the Myanmar military used helicopters to shoot and kill the villagers after the claim that some villagers joined the insurgents in an ambush which killed a senior army officer. The army confirmed that two helicopters mounted with guns dispersed the crowd but denied they shot at civilians.
More info here
Here
And Here
As of November 2016, Myanmar had yet to allow the media and human rights groups to enter the persecuted areas
Those who fled Myanmar to escape persecution reported that women had been gang raped, men killed, houses torched, and young children thrown into burning houses
More info here
And here
The boats carrying Rohingya refugees on Naf River were often gunned down by the Myanmar army
On 3 February 2017, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) released a report based on interviews with more than 200 Rohingya refugees, which said that the abuses included gang-rape, mass killing, and killing children
More info here
And here
Nearly half of the interviewees stated that family members of theirs had been killed
Half of the women interviewed stated that they had been raped or sexually assaulted: the report described the sexual violence as "massive and systematic"
The army and police were stated to have burned "homes, schools, markets, shops, and mosques" belonging to or used by the Rohingya people
More info here
And here
In March 2017, a police document obtained by Reuters listed 423 Rohingyas detained by the police since 9 October 2016, 13 of whom were children, the youngest being ten years old. Two police captains in Maungdaw verified the document and justified the arrests, with one of them saying, "We the police have to arrest those who collaborated with the attackers, children or not, but the court will decide if they are guilty; we are not the ones who decide." Myanmar police also claimed that the children had confessed to their alleged crimes during interrogations, and that they were not beaten or pressured during questioning. The average age of those detained is 34, the youngest is 10, and the oldest is 75.
On August 25, 2017 Rohingya militants attacked the government forces, and the government in response attacked the civil population, forcing dozens of thousands of Rohingya to flee to Bangladesh. Personally, I wholeheartedly support these insurgent attacks. Oppress and attack people to the extent listed above and you think they won't fight back ? Ridiculous.
There were also reports of mass killings of Rohingyas by the military and Buddhist vigilantes in Chut Pyin village near Rathedaung. Chris Lewa stated that they had received reports of 130 being killed in the village. A video provided to ABC News by a human rights monitor purportedly shows the village burning and in another clip of freshly dug earth mound, allegedly graves of those killed.
According to Matthew Smith of the NGO Fortify Rights, “We can now say with a high level of confidence that state-led security forces and local armed residents have committed mass killings.” Smith accused the Burmese military of trying to expel all Rohingyas from the country
I could post more but I think the point has already been made.
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2017.09.18 23:49 Prettygame4Ausername A resource on the genocide of the Rohingyan peoples by the fascist government and peoples of Burma.

The Rohingya persecution in Myanmar refers to the ongoing military crackdown by Myanmar Army and police on Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine State in the country's northwestern region. The crackdown was, apparently, in response to attacks on Burmese border posts in October 2016 by Rohingya insurgents. The Burmese army have been accused of wide-scale human rights violations, including extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, arson and infanticides, claims which the Burmese government dismisses as "exaggerations.
Myanmar is predominantly Buddhist (88%–90% of the population), with small minorities of other faiths, including a small minority of Muslims (4%), most of whom are forbidden to vote and denied citizenship, with the exception of the Kamans.
Several other ethnic groups suffer discrimination, abuse and neglect by the government; in the western coastal province of Rakhine State, it is the predominantly Buddhist Rakhine (4%, about 2 million people) and the predominantly Muslim Rohingya (2%, about 1 million people) that have suffered at the hands of the government.
The Burmese government have often put up propaganda posters inciting violence between the two groups, by urging Rakhine Buddhists to take over land from Rakhine Rohingya
Tensions between Buddhist and Muslim communities have also led to violence, with nationalist Buddhists often targeting Rohingyas
The Rohingya people have been described as "amongst the world's least wanted" and "one of the world's most persecuted minorities."
The Rohingya are deprived of the right to free movement and of higher education
They have been denied Burmese citizenship since the Burmese nationality law was enacted
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The law has been described as perpetuating an apartheid-like regime on the Rohingya people
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They are not allowed to travel without official permission and were previously required to sign a commitment not to have more than two children though the law was not strictly enforced.
They are subjected to routine forced labour where typically a Rohingya man will have to give up one day a week to work on military or government projects and one night for sentry duty
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The Rohingya have also lost a lot of arable land, which has been confiscated by the military to give to Buddhist settlers from elsewhere in Myanmar
The Rohingya describe themselves as descendants of Arab traders who settled in the region many generations ago. Scholars have stated that they have been present in the region since the 15th century. However, they have been denied citizenship by the government of Myanmar, which describes them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh
In modern times, persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar dates back to the 1970s
Since then, Rohingya people have regularly been made the target of persecution by the government and nationalist Buddhists
The tension between the various religious groups in the country was often exploited by the past military rulers of Myanmar
Following the border police incidents, in which ARSA members attacked border posts, the Myanmar army began a major crackdown in the villages of northern Rakhine state. The ARSA claimed they were taking "defensive actions" in 25 different locations and accused government soldiers of raping and killing civilians. The group also claimed that Rathedaung had been under a blockade for more than two weeks, starving the Rohingya, and that the government forces were preparing to do the same in Maungdaw
As the crackdown continued, the casualties increased. Arbitrary arrest, extrajudicial killings, gang rapes, brutalities against civilians, and looting were reportedly carried out.
More info here This also has further information for personal interest, including recent atrocities carried out by the regime.
In late November, Human Rights Watch released satellite images which showed that approximately 1,250 Rohingya houses in five villages had been burned down by the security forces
The media and the human rights groups frequently reported intense human rights violations by the Myanmar military
During one incident in November, the Myanmar military used helicopters to shoot and kill the villagers after the claim that some villagers joined the insurgents in an ambush which killed a senior army officer. The army confirmed that two helicopters mounted with guns dispersed the crowd but denied they shot at civilians.
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As of November 2016, Myanmar had yet to allow the media and human rights groups to enter the persecuted areas
Those who fled Myanmar to escape persecution reported that women had been gang raped, men killed, houses torched, and young children thrown into burning houses
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The boats carrying Rohingya refugees on Naf River were often gunned down by the Myanmar army
On 3 February 2017, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) released a report based on interviews with more than 200 Rohingya refugees, which said that the abuses included gang-rape, mass killing, and killing children
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Nearly half of the interviewees stated that family members of theirs had been killed
Half of the women interviewed stated that they had been raped or sexually assaulted: the report described the sexual violence as "massive and systematic"
The army and police were stated to have burned "homes, schools, markets, shops, and mosques" belonging to or used by the Rohingya people
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In March 2017, a police document obtained by Reuters listed 423 Rohingyas detained by the police since 9 October 2016, 13 of whom were children, the youngest being ten years old. Two police captains in Maungdaw verified the document and justified the arrests, with one of them saying, "We the police have to arrest those who collaborated with the attackers, children or not, but the court will decide if they are guilty; we are not the ones who decide." Myanmar police also claimed that the children had confessed to their alleged crimes during interrogations, and that they were not beaten or pressured during questioning. The average age of those detained is 34, the youngest is 10, and the oldest is 75.
On August 25, 2017 Rohingya militants attacked the government forces, and the government in response attacked the civil population, forcing dozens of thousands of Rohingya to flee to Bangladesh. Personally, I wholeheartedly support these insurgent attacks. Oppress and attack people to the extent listed above and you think they won't fight back ? Ridiculous.
There were also reports of mass killings of Rohingyas by the military and Buddhist vigilantes in Chut Pyin village near Rathedaung. Chris Lewa stated that they had received reports of 130 being killed in the village. A video provided to ABC News by a human rights monitor purportedly shows the village burning and in another clip of freshly dug earth mound, allegedly graves of those killed.
According to Matthew Smith of the NGO Fortify Rights, “We can now say with a high level of confidence that state-led security forces and local armed residents have committed mass killings.” Smith accused the Burmese military of trying to expel all Rohingyas from the country
I could post more but I think the point has already been made.
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